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 How to: Make a powerfull engine for a big car?
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DimaN



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Nissan Cedric Brougham 88-Coma
Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky
3-8-2009

  How to: Make a powerfull engine for a big car?


Hello everyone who reads my message)
I aimed to create a fast car for daily drive and for fun:)
The body is NISSAN Cedric Y-31
Engine is stock VG20DET with 122500km.
Due to long period of head crushing and looking for nice ideas of what engine to choose i stopped at making VG38DETT from a VG33E, but i dont know will the heads of VG30DETT fit to VG33E, or maybe i can find another Twin cam heads? Or maybe i have to use a VG30DETT for my idea? Or something else?
Thanks to everyone for attention, post your ideas and suggestions and warnings here)
datsunscom

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10-6-2002

 « Re: How to: Make a powerfull engine for a big car? (DimaN)


VG30DETT, upgrade the turbos to GT25R's, Mike Smth exhaust manifolds, 555cc injectors, Jim Wolf technology ECU, aftermarket boost controller. Presto, 450+ HP and enough to make even a Y31 Cedric fast.
DimaN



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Nissan Cedric Brougham 88-Coma
Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky
3-8-2009

 « Re: How to: Make a powerfull engine for a big car? (datsunscom)


thanks for suggestion)
But let me make a rifinement- i want this car to get 100km\h about 3.5 sec
If my calculation right i need something near 820+hp to let Y-31 do it.

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columbus ohio
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 « Re: How to: Make a powerfull engine for a big car? (DimaN)


The SOHC and DOHC VG motors cant interchange blocks and heads.

So putting DOHC heads on a VG33E won't work.

I would think your best bet is getting a VG30DETT full engine, block/heads/intake manifolds etc etc. All your sensors should work on the 3L, but you might want to check and see if your 2L ecu has the same great tuning capabilities as the 3L.

You could bore the VG30DE with just some after market pistons, and they do sell stroker cranks for it too I think. But the 3L is perfectly capable of high HP.

~Alex



Elblanco- '90 s13 hatch Rust spec s13- RB20DET ran/blown/rebuild->rinse/repeat- the daily driver/drifter
JDM Spartan- '91 s13 hatch VQ35 swap of some sort- the long term build

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car nut



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10-12-2009

 « Re: How to: Make a powerfull engine for a big car? (RustspecS13)


If you have $20k lying around, build up a VG30DE. Otherwise, find a different goal cause you're not gonna get to 820hp without $$$$



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if his goal was 820hp, he wouldn't be on NICO asking us what heads to use.



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Nissan Cedric Brougham 88-Coma
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3-8-2009

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Quote, originally posted by alexf20c »
if his goal was 820hp, he wouldn't be on NICO asking us what heads to use.

Tell me please: if goal is 820+hp i must know everything about heads interchangeability? Engine will be built without time limit and any hurring.
Power goal is a fairy tale? Explain please.
P.S: thanks for answer.
car nut



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That's just a lot of power lol. That kind of power isn't cheap.

Quote, originally posted by alexf20c »
if his goal was 820hp, he wouldn't be on NICO asking us what heads to use.

I've read this almost 10 times and still have no idea what your point was or what you were trying to say.

 

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