why do supra's get more love than us?

[phanatikz32]

i was just browsing kelly blue books website and a 94 supra tt with 5,000 miles in excellent condition with a cd player alloy wheels and leather interior goes for 25,000 private party. a 94 300zx with the equivilent features and milage goes for 8,515.... WTF! that just got me thinking not only do supras get more love in resale value but in motorsports also, supra's are f***in tanks they're huge but yet people still drift them drag them and basically any other motorsport you can think of. i mean i tell people i drift my z and they're like wtf that thing is too big and heavy and they they see a supra drifting and its like "that s*** is tight!" WTF! and they get more love in aftermarket support! in aero alone they have carbon fiber hoods hatches, fenders, bumpers side skirts, rear bumpers, canards, lips, doors, mirrors, rear diffusers, valve covers and what do z's get? carbon fiber hoods hatches and nose pannels and fog light duct covers... WTF. it seems like the z32 is the bastard child only people who respect z32's are z32 owners and nissan enthusiasts. i mean i cant tell you how many times this has happened:" so what kind of car do you drive?"" a 300zx twin turbo."" a what?"" do you know what a 350z is."" yeah that car is dope but whats a 300zx?"" its the old version of the 350z."" oh... well thats dope too i guess."" *sigh* "

SO ANNOYING!

[nmgoodthing]

You can thank The Fast and the Furious for making the Supra so popular.

[300freekzx]

Fing morons!

[makaofox]

HAHA sadly this is sooo tru. I feel you people ask me ALL the time what do i drive? and i replay a nissan 300zx. but the same thing happens ALL the time OO sweet dis kid drives a 350Z!! its like No i said 300zx and they give that WTF look like ok whats that?, until they Really see what a 300zx is. But in away its fast and furious' marketing towards the supra but Thank GOD the 300zx wasnt in it cause it makes us 300zx owners dat much better then any1 else. i live in north jersey there are quiet a few Zs in my area an everytime i c 1 we give a flick of da lights an a wave dats Respect cant say supra owners have the same respect US 300zx owners do.

[sethhatfield]

Civics get more love than us so there ya go. As for your buddies not knowing what a 300ZX is, I think you need older friends. LOL.

All the 30's + crowd, especially the women, love them and remember wanting one when they were not affordable. Mine was $40,000 new in CA back in '95!!

I like Supras okay but they are goofy looking, especially with the bird slaughtering wing on the back.

[franklin93zx]

^ hey i'm 17 and remeber when i was like 5 and seeing a z comercial and just thinking woooo that is way cooler then sesame street haha.. but all my friends who all know about cars (somewhat all honda tards),know whats up with the z32.... well only that it has t tops and a v6... but as for the people who don't know about car's i gave up on when they ask what i drive i just show them a picture of it on my folder, i say forget the people who don't know or love the z32 because i think it makes our community stronger and the fact we have the creative ideas to make up the parts we need for example charles from powertrix and z1 and all them and when people see our z's they think wwwoooaaahhh what is that, that thing is b****in!

[fairladyzz]

Dam Supras..they are way over rated, but i do get compliments from my car from strangers often, they say "Nice car, how fast does it pull?", " That's a quick car huh?", i just say yes, lol....i remember being in high school, and the wrestling coach having a Z TT, i always saw it and thought nothing of it, i guess its that supras have had better promotion and more view to public

[MrSoutherland]

So are you guys trying to say that a supra is better than a 300z? I mean I am a huge nissan guy, but the supra seems to be a better car to me than a 300z. Sorry to offend any z owners but come on...

[DntH8Me]

theyre saying that its more popular and that it is more appreciated. which is true. people ask me what my hobbies are: working on my car. really, what do you drive? 300zx. WTF??? every time. its my background on my phone. i just whip it out and say this. theyre like oh hey. thats pretty awesome. never heard of it though. i never heard of it for the longest. when i was 15 i loved 280z's and wanted one so bad, then one day i was looking for one for sale and a 300zx showed up in my search window. curious, i clicked on it and fell in love immediately. my first car was my 2+2 i love it. but in retrospect, for a first car, its somewhat impractical. complete friggin money pit. (its completely worth it). as far as popularity, i agree with everyone else. i like it unique but i hate the WTF you get when you say what it is. the word supra makes me thing of some retarded 1000hp drag racing car... 300zx makes me think of a beautiful mountain drive with amazing handling and plenty of power for a Daily Driver.

[grk nickafis]

No. The supra is not better because its not a nissan. It's only good because of the i6 2jz. It came out to compete with the 300zx. We were here first! Everyone thinks that the 300zx came out btu it wasnt faster than a supra, Wrong. The supra came out After the 300. The first few models of the supra only had 289hp too and we beat them in almost every test. then they re did it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...7.htmh ... /v...2.htm

[DntH8Me]

im a senior and i know. but ive started a trend at our school. two guys selling their cars to buy a 300zx right now and one guy already did. i got mine first. its funny to be followed, but still all 1597 other people at our school have no idea what they are and mine is in the parking lot every day. right by my friends red one all of last year and by itself with no one around it this year. i dont let people park by me. they sure love the two 330Cis though -.-

[300zxman1987]

The fact is fella's everyone knows what a Supra is and has dreamed about one from time to time honestly if we were going to spring back the hands of time I would rather have a 96 TT new back in 96 then a supra because to me its a much better looking car, now I am not hating on the supra because it is a close 2nd nicest car to me but the simple fact is nothing can touch the 300zx body styling. But the simple fact that I get asked all the time what kind of car is that is the reason I am glad I don't drive a supra. There is like 2 300zx's in the surrounding 50 miles where I live and that to me is way cooler then anything that the whole import community loves.

[tg]

Skyline + Supra fame = fast and furious.

[phanatikz32]

No. The supra is not better because its not a nissan. It's only good because of the i6 2jz. It came out to compete with the 300zx. We were here first! Everyone thinks that the 300zx came out btu it wasnt faster than a supra, Wrong. The supra came out After the 300. The first few models of the supra only had 289hp too and we beat them in almost every test. then they re did it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...7.htmh ... /v...2.htm

dude these videos where sponsored by nissan i don't think all of that information was objective. and i thought it was funny how the guy said the most disappointing part of the supra set up was the inline 6 and that inline6's didn't belong in sports cars lol. matter of fact i think thats one of the only good things about the supra is that inline 6 and the availability of aftermarket parts. i agree that the F&F movies did make the supra popular. but why is it that you can get so much more power so much easier out of an inline 6 over a v6. and do z's have factory forged internals or is that just the supra also?

[Z_Fanatic]

dude these videos where sponsored by nissan i don't think all of that information was objective. and i thought it was funny how the guy said the most disappointing part of the supra set up was the inline 6 and that inline6's didn't belong in sports cars lol. matter of fact i think thats one of the only good things about the supra is that inline 6 and the availability of aftermarket parts. i agree that the F&F movies did make the supra popular. but why is it that you can get so much more power so much easier out of an inline 6 over a v6. and do z's have factory forged internals or is that just the supra also?

In the VG rods are forged, pistons are cast.

[DanDrath]

Haha Some kid said to me one time wow sick car what is it? Is that a supra? I laughed and told him no its even better a 300zx .

[rtkota5point9]

Why are they "better"? They're easier to work on, there's more room under the hood, they are LESS advanced and fancy which makes upgrading and modifying things easier, and for that same reason they don't BREAK ALL THE TIME! lol

I still love my 300ZX, but I'd much rather work on a Supra when s*** breaks.

[Re037]

All the 30's + crowd, especially the women, love them and remember wanting one when they were not affordable. Mine was $40,000 new in CA back in '95!!

so true...

definately resonates better with people 30 and up. nearly all clean z32s i see around my area are driven by men and women in thier 30s 40s even 50s. beat up examples i can almost gurantee some 18-23 asian guy with spikey hair behind the wheel
Modified by Re037 at 7:41 AM 10/4/2009

[sampsonJ]

Why are they "better"? They're easier to work on, there's more room under the hood, they are LESS advanced and fancy which makes upgrading and modifying things easier, and for that same reason they don't BREAK ALL THE TIME! lol

I still love my 300ZX, but I'd much rather work on a Supra when s*** breaks.

lol yep.

[andrez]

yeah the supras are more popular specially with the younger crowd, I live in a town with about 60000 people and there is a dozen or so supras rolling around and to my knowledge there is 3 300zx and we all know each other. I would rather own my z for its looks and performance than a supra cause its what everybody else has ............ also there is a boatload of civics dropped and coffee canned.... but the z gets the looks I even have my own parking spot at the local suds spot with a z only parking sign lol

[feetpiece]

definately resonates better with people 30 and up. nearly all clean z32s i see around my area is driven by men and women in thier 30s 40s even 50s. beat up examples i can almost gurantee some 18-23 asian guy with spikey hair behind the wheel

Ahmen - for those of us who were in our teens watching these commercials there is no question as to what is the ultimate car to have:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWpxHLCUFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHvm-dMUaFo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdfEznkmtIU

[phanatikz32]

Why are they "better"? they are LESS advanced and fancy which makes upgrading and modifying things easier

bull s*** lol the biggest complaint from toyota owners that work with the 2j is the wiring and ecu that thing is an electrical nightmare because of all of the advanced features they tried to add to be better than everyone else. also supra parts are more expensive then z parts so while it may be easier to access things you'll pay more for them. and its not that z's break down more, its just that when they do its a b**** so people neglect to do basic maintenance because its such a b**** and so expensive, so the longer they wait the more s*** f***s up and thats why they feel like its always breaking down. atleast thats how i see it.

[rtkota5point9]

I diasagree, I've worked on a buddies 95 Supra 2JZ and it's a walk in the park compared to mine. Everything is pretty damn straight foreward.

Look at ours, for one, there's almost two of everything. Our's has Hicas, AIV, PRVR, and every other thing crammed under the hood. Even his wiring harness is pretty straightforeward and simple. Our's looks like spaghetti. There is literally wires EVERYWHERE.

I look under the hood of his car and think, it's just another engine. I look under mine and say "What the hell were they thinking?"

[simmode1]

I don't think this is a problem you guys should be complaining about. Once your platform becomes popular like what you're aspiring to, expects your boards to look like the 240 Gen board . And expect to never to a nice/clean looking example of a Z32 on the street again.

You guys aren't the only ones that go through this. Think you got Supra envy? Imagine how the SC300/SC400 guys feel! It's much worse for them! They've got virtually the same chassis & motor options as the Supra and hardly anyone thinks of them when it comes to performance. Miata's and MR2's get over looked too.

These overlooked platforms may not have the same aftermarket support as cars like the Supra, Civic or 240... but there's enough of a market to get what you need done to set your car apart. Having a car that only few ppl are aware of it's dynamic potential is an asset. And it makes you guys more elite, IMO. You don't know how many times I consider getting rid of my 240's for some less whored out performance cars.

[slythe]

the inline 6 2jz is about 100 times easier to work on than our vg30dett. The motor is what makes the car so special in my eyes. i love my z32 but id def rather be working on a strait 6 anyday. supras are bruisers. no way around it.

and like simmode1 said, the rarity and ignorance towards our cars is what makes them so intruiging. i woulda got a dsm if i just wanted the best platform.

[phanatikz32]

i woulda got a dsm

[simmode1]

x2. DSM =

[slythe]

haha not sayin i want a dsm just saying if ur goin for easily accessable parts and easy platform you might as well buy a dsm but thats a whole nother debate

[dantesdoom]

yeah..this is true a much stronger and reliable car, not to mention cheaper and EASIER repairs. Plus less were made so they are worth more. Other than the GTR they are considered the best of the best.

[simmode1]

There's a crapton of positives about 1st & 2nd Eclipse GSX's (and a few but huge negatives as well) but I get hung up on the 1g's styling. It is pure do not like. And the 2g is like synonymous with 'ricer', so.... no thanks.