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| « Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (white_ashes) | 2:25 AM 4/19/2009 |
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wrong section 
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j-z
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| « Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (white_ashes) | 2:25 AM 4/19/2009 |
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ummmm..... how about you tell us what youre dreams of building this 510 are for??? street car with alot of power??? a track car? drift? what man??? if youre building it just for power i would say its a toss up between the rb and 1j.... the rb is newer, and the 1j has the exhaust on the pass side = no bmc bull shlt..... if youre building a road race/time attack/auto-x car, i would go with a f22c out of an s2000. drift.... id probably go ka-t. im gonna dream that obama isnt our president tonight.....
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white_ashes
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4-15-2009
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| « Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (j-z) | 2:43 AM 4/19/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by j-z » | | ummmm..... how about you tell us what youre dreams of building this 510 are for??? street car with alot of power??? a track car? drift? what man??? if youre building it just for power i would say its a toss up between the rb and 1j.... the rb is newer, and the 1j has the exhaust on the pass side = no bmc bull shlt..... if youre building a road race/time attack/auto-x car, i would go with a f22c out of an s2000. drift.... id probably go ka-t. im gonna dream that obama isnt our president tonight..... |
mainly it would be street car and sometimes be for track but i want to not worry about stressing out the motor and i would be happy with 400-500hp and i think that the rb26dett or the 1jz can perform there easily and still take a beating and give me one too lol... also if i decide to go big i already have the motor there and dont need to swap motors again...  mainly for me i think that this would be an awesome swap no matter what motor i end up with cause i have never seen a 1jz or a rb26dett in a datsun 510 so woot woot!!! anyhow thanks guys for all the feedback and im going to jump on this build asap i just gotta strip down the 510 first and get rid of the truck motor thats already in there.... lol
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hbpignosePA
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| « Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (white_ashes) | 6:04 AM 4/19/2009 |
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this is a stupid question (sorry)first off you have unrealistic expectations, and obviously didnt do any research; so i doubt you have the experience, fab skills or money (well that maybe) to pull it off. first off your not going to find an RB26 for 2500- they run close to 4k second, theres absolutely no point for a 600hp datsun 510 while they happen to be one of my favorite cars, all your going to accomplish is tearing the poor thing in two in the first launch. The chassis and the rear end (which you could change) will not support that much power unless you do some serious stiffening, and honestly its not worth it. theres alot of guys who do Sr20det swaps who are scared outta there mind because the numbers they made with such a light chassis. my vote: build N/A SR w carbs old school ftmw
Modified by hbpignosePA at 9:53 AM 4/19/2009
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gregfarz78
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yeah rb26dett you better increase your budget to 6-8k. I love 510s if I ever got one I'd keep it n/a either a vq35 or a lsx swap
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kscherbaum
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| « Re: (gregfarz78) | 10:03 AM 4/19/2009 |
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Why add the extra weight of an RB ? I would think that the SR20 would be ideal, lots of parts available, makes great power, much lighter than an RB, wont require much fab work, etc... Put a narrowed S14 rear end under it. I am in the process of a build for Clark Steppler at JWT on a 510 but were going with a KA with the monster cylinder head and turbo... I already narrowed an S14 rear end that fits under the car...-Kurt
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cody180sx
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| « Re: (kscherbaum) | 11:27 AM 4/19/2009 |
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people have done rb 510 all the time. rb25 for sure should be that much harder to get a rb26 in there
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Lev_96_240sx
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11-29-2007
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| « Re: (cody180sx) | 11:38 AM 4/19/2009 |
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Yea for a car that weighs as little as the 510, you're going to kill yourself with that much power. With a heavier engine like an RB or a 1JZ you're adding unecessary weight to the front end of the car. If you're looking to save money on this project, forget about those engines and look for a KA or an NA SR, anything else and you will need to replace or strengthen the entire bottom part of the car, including the frame and subframes. Just my 2 cents. 510 is a nice car, wouldn't want to see it wrapped around a tree.
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deuce4Oh
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| « Re: (S13Teddy) | 12:20 PM 4/19/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by S13Teddy » | </thread> |
L20B FTW. an awesome enginefor an even sicker chassis.
Torque it til' it strips,then back it off a 1/4 turn.....that should do it. 
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j-z
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| « Re: (deuce4Oh) | 1:06 PM 4/19/2009 |
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yeah youre def not going to be able to fit a straight 6 in there without ALOT of modification.... same goes for a V motor.... i say go with the f22c and do a full out all motor build... ITBS, cams, higher compression, springs, rods, the whole nine..... thats what i would do atleast.... and oh... i didnt dream about obama not being president last night... i had a dream to where i was with two chicks in a conversion van going on a 3 hr trip to stay at a hotel and i didnt have any money LMAO <-----truth
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white_ashes
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1969 Datsun 510
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4-15-2009
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| « Re: (j-z) | 3:23 PM 4/19/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by j-z » | | yeah youre def not going to be able to fit a straight 6 in there without ALOT of modification.... same goes for a V motor.... i say go with the f22c and do a full out all motor build... ITBS, cams, higher compression, springs, rods, the whole nine..... thats what i would do atleast.... and oh... i didnt dream about obama not being president last night... i had a dream to where i was with two chicks in a conversion van going on a 3 hr trip to stay at a hotel and i didnt have any money LMAO <-----truth |
ive already measured the engine bay and measured a rb26 and it seems to fit along with an extra 2 inches in the front and 1 3/4 in the back and that would be with the radiator so i know it will fit and the weight difference is not THAT much at all and ive seen a datsun 510 with 500+ hp and no modification to the frame so i dont think it will be a problem... im going to try it and if it doesnt work out i can always buy an r32 shell and drop it in! LOL anyhow im not really worried about the money situation i should be fine and i will probably run into problems and delays but in general i think it will be a fun swap! Thanks guys for all your flaming and input and ive decided to go with a rb26 and yes i can get it for $2300 thanks NICO!!!
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Lev_96_240sx
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11-29-2007
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| « Re: (white_ashes) | 6:57 PM 4/19/2009 |
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you're an idiot... why do you ask for advice and then disregard it when people tell you their honest opinion about what you propose?
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hbpignosePA
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| « Re: (Lev_96_240sx) | 8:17 PM 4/19/2009 |
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umm ill believe it when i see picturesand im done arguing with you, cuz its not likely you will ever update this to prove it like so many "OMG guys what kinda motor shoud i put in my whip to be straight gansta threads" 
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evildky
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the RM and 1JZ can be shoehorned in but are heavy and make things like radiator and intercoler clearance issues a hugr issue to work around, the SR weighs a couple hundred lbs less and will be a much better fit and preserve the weight bias of the car, mayeb even a CA swap, or the L20B with dual DCOE's
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Papi Chulo
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10-11-2007
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510six has an L28et in is car.
He modified his firewall.
If you don't you will do stoppies when you slam on the brakes. True story.
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mbsilvia
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| « Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (white_ashes) | 9:14 PM 4/20/2009 |
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Hey white_ashes, don't listen to these yahoos, just jealous;)j/k. An rb26dett can and does fit in a 510, takes some fab work and a shoehorn, but that obviously goes without saying and I'd like to see another guy with one! I'm finishing this car a dear friend started, check it out! http://forum.ratsun.net/showthread.php?t=1468
Modified by mbsilvia at 6:18 AM 4/21/2009
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Kalypso
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| « Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (mbsilvia) | 6:30 PM 4/24/2009 |
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TWIN TURBO LS1
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| « Re: (evildky) | 8:40 AM 5/7/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by evildky » | | the RM and 1JZ can be shoehorned in but are heavy and make things like radiator and intercoler clearance issues a hugr issue to work around, the SR weighs a couple hundred lbs less and will be a much better fit and preserve the weight bias of the car, mayeb even a CA swap, or the L20B with dual DCOE's |
echoing this.
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z210
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| « Re: (Mr1der) | 3:51 PM 5/19/2009 |
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i would vote neither, these two engines require a lot of fab work. also, by the nature of how you are asking these questions, i can tell you do not have a lot of the fab skills necessary for this job. however, if you are a rich kid and you are planning to have a reputable shop do this swap then i still say don't do it because these engines have already been swapped into a 510. been there done that. if you want to stand out in your 510, why don't you swap in a four wheel drive subaru engine and drivetrain.
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Kalypso
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| « Re: (z210) | 4:07 PM 5/19/2009 |
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my first post was dumb...  for meput a modest and lightweight motor in it... sr20
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evildky
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or just buy one already built
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HowlerMonkey
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SxMachine
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| « Re: (cody180sx) | 7:05 PM 8/3/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by cody180sx » | | people have done rb 510 all the time. rb25 for sure should be that much harder to get a rb26 in there |
Show me these people
Project 72' Datsun 510 vg30ett almost complete (yes SOHC wit TWO TURBOS!)
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HowlerMonkey
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| « Re: (SxMachine) | 9:12 PM 8/5/2009 |
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This FJ20 makes 630hp.
If you're going toyota, why not use an engine that fits like a 3sGTE since they can be made to handle 700hp or more. This 3sgte put down 777hp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2hVXchxCk
Modified by HowlerMonkey at 9:19 PM 8/5/2009
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datsunscom
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| « 400HP in a 510 | 11:15 PM 10/27/2009 |
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This stock VG30DETT made 335whp on pump gas and will soon be at 470+ (on pump gas) with a mild turbo upgrade. In a 2500lb car the enigne and trans aren't being stressed at all. It makes a nice daily driver + occasional track / auto-x / dragstrip toy.One thing often overlooked is how beefy a clutch you need with 500-700hp. At 450-500hp you can use a clutch that feels and engages much like a stock one. Really, check out a clutch that can handle over 500ft-lbs and it will likely be a b**** to use in a daily driver. 
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Kalypso
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| « Re: (HowlerMonkey) | 12:17 AM 10/28/2009 |
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why hasnt this thread been locked and burned forever
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| « Re: 400HP in a 510 (datsunscom) | 1:53 PM 11/17/2009 |
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hey i wa| Quote, originally posted by datsunscom » | | This stock VG30DETT made 335whp on pump gas and will soon be at 470+ (on pump gas) with a mild turbo upgrade. In a 2500lb car the enigne and trans aren't being stressed at all. It makes a nice daily driver + occasional track / auto-x / dragstrip toy. One thing often overlooked is how beefy a clutch you need with 500-700hp. At 450-500hp you can use a clutch that feels and engages much like a stock one. Really, check out a clutch that can handle over 500ft-lbs and it will likely be a b**** to use in a daily driver.
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s wondering if this car is yours?
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b110prodigy
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| « Re: 400HP in a 510 (67 411) | 10:37 AM 11/21/2009 |
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hold up...
my question is what kind of tranny are they running in a rb swap?
back seat driving will take a new deffinition with this.
not to say what kind of death trap it would be to have that kind of power in the 510.ca18, big fkin turbo.
trust me no r34 will get anywhere near your rear bumper.
(tops 2600 pounds not including driver.)
Modified by b110prodigy at 11:43 PM 11/23/2009
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| « Re: (Kalypso) | 10:56 PM 11/26/2009 |
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I dont know whos 510 that is with the vg30dett in it, but when i imagine a clean 510 with som nice modifications done witha professional flare, this is what i have in mind when i open a hood. nice and clean. I love to dream about the ultimate powerhouse in a lil car but there is a limit to when the poor car can not show the owners compulsiveness in a sweet way. very well done to who ever did this install and nice fab work by the way.
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vinbytes
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Yes! me too I like Nissan motor. It is really good. Well I have one motor from them. Just bought a few weeks ago. Really nice.
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One of my friend have Nissan ... Oh my god i gotta love to ride it...
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AZhitman
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This thread is silly.If you can get an RB for $2300, then you need to get 10 of them, sell them here, and profit handsomely. Bottom line: The project you're talking about is a 5-figure investment, EVEN if you do all the work yourself. If you've got a resume of prior builds, I'll gladly STFU and yield to this RB26 nonsense talk. Until then, it's a pipe dream.
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Mr1der
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s***..it'd probably require less work to put a small block chevy in one.heh...kinda like this. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2367766
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