Introducing my project and myself

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1WheelWonder
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Hey guys, my name is Chris Scronce and i've been messing with my S13 for over 10 years now. Alot has changed through the years with my setups. NA KA24DE with mild bolt-ons. Then I turboed it with a Pulsar GTI-R T28 on the stock block and made Close to 300WHP on the dyno. A year or so passed before I blew the stock block with over 270k on the ticker, at that point I rebuilt KA with forged pistons and rods, headworks, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, Garrett T61 turbo, 740cc injectors.......... I eventually grew tired of that and recently parted it out, which brings me to my newest endeavor, the VH.

I chose this route over my previous built KA for ultimate driveability, my goal is 300 NA wheel horsepower and 400+ on the bottle :twisted: then this time next year I should have a huge single turbo hanging off the front of the engine.

Enough talking how about some pics.

previous setup

1996 VH45DE out of a Infiniti Q45, 96 had no VVT as compared to other years kinda the red headed step child of the VHs. Previous owner Nico member Braap dynoed 245whp (100% stock through an auto transmission) at horsepower freaks giving me some decent numbers to start with.

Mazworxs VH swap kit

Motor mounts with poly bushings

Z32 TT trans machined for the transmission adapter, J30 starter...

A little block modification so the starter will clearNow you see itNow you don't, notice the KA in the background <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/image ... es/cry.gif" BORDER="0"> Trans adapter bolted on along with 300zx TT (ebay) 11lb flywheelFrame notched to clear the alternator (nevermind the funky bay)Engine bay yoMazworx headers, 3in collectors, jet hot coated, very niceWill be rocking a full dual 3in exhaust with exhaust cutouts so I can unleash my inner redneck

Alot more updates to come

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90TSIAWD
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Looks like you're off to a great start with the project. Notch looks great. I hope those headers sound half as good as they look (aside from no slant cutting pipes before collector ). Lastly, not to get off topic, what'd your last, built, KA setup put down on the dyno? Looks like it was a well put together setup so just curious.

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90TSIAWD wrote:Looks like you're off to a great start with the project. Notch looks great. I hope those headers sound half as good as they look (aside from no slant cutting pipes before collector ). Lastly, not to get off topic, what'd your last, built, KA setup put down on the dyno? Looks like it was a well put together setup so just curious.
Never had the chance to put my last setup on the dyno, felt WAY stronger than the previous 300whp setup, so I'd assume at 15psi (lowest setting) that I was making a minimum of 350whp

Thanks for the props.

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I look forward to seeing this one! Looks like you're off to a good start with parts.


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A few slow updates.

Finally got in my ARP flywheel boltsIMG]http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h215/ ... wap017.jpg[/IMG]Flywheel mounted Spec clutch mounted and looking ghey baby blue in the flashBelts mounted, had to stretch the water pump belt until I find a VH ac tensioner to modify as the water pump tensionerNew wheels and tires mounted, picked these Welds up from a local Mustang guy for 200.00 with cougar claw tires on them, both the original skinnies had fix-a-flat in them, can you say SCARY15X8 Draglites and MT 275/50/15s rear, 15x3.5 Draglites, 25mm spacer, Kuhmo 165/80/15s front

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1WheelWonder wrote:A few slow updates.

Finally got in my ARP flywheel boltsIMG]http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h215/ ... wap017.jpg[/IMG]Flywheel mounted Spec clutch mounted and looking ghey baby blue in the flash
The swap is looking great man!

Just wanted to say, make sure you put the small metal spacer ring that is used with the stock VH flexplate BEHILD your new Z flywheel. It is needed for proper starter engagement and clutch engagement. Don't want to see you needing to take everything apart too many times! Don't forget the small spacer that goes behing the throwout bearing as well, it should have come with your kit.


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SuperHatch wrote:
The swap is looking great man!

Just wanted to say, make sure you put the small metal spacer ring that is used with the stock VH flexplate BEHILD your new Z flywheel. It is needed for proper starter engagement and clutch engagement. Don't want to see you needing to take everything apart too many times! Don't forget the small spacer that goes behing the throwout bearing as well, it should have come with your kit.
OMG are you serious, I searched and searched about if I was supposed to use the factory spacer on the VH crank and everything I read said it wasn't needed, even asked Mazworx and they had no clue what part I was talking about.

What are the other Mazworx adapter users doing? Are you using the spacer or not?

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1WheelWonder wrote:
OMG are you serious, I searched and searched about if I was supposed to use the factory spacer on the VH crank and everything I read said it wasn't needed, even asked Mazworx and they had no clue what part I was talking about.

What are the other Mazworx adapter users doing? Are you using the spacer or not?
Both VHVG swaps I've done required it. One used a OEM TT Flywheel and one used an OEM NA Flywheel. Yes I am using it.

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SuperHatch wrote:
Both VHVG swaps I've done required it. One used a OEM TT Flywheel and one used an OEM NA Flywheel. Yes I am using it.
Went ahead and trusted your word and pulled everything apart and put the spacer in. Thanks for the tip.

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1WheelWonder wrote:
Went ahead and trusted your word and pulled everything apart and put the spacer in. Thanks for the tip.
No problem, good luck with the rest of the swap, can't wait to see it come together.

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mmmm, shiny vh goodness...why not go ahead and drop in some older cams (pre 96) and go ahead and install the solenoids for vtc...there should be plugs for it.then use a jumper harness to go from the obd2 96 ecu to an earlier non obd ecu or just straight up get rid of the obd2 ecu plug and run an older ecu for full control.

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Carl H wrote:mmmm, shiny vh goodness...why not go ahead and drop in some older cams (pre 96) and go ahead and install the solenoids for vtc...there should be plugs for it.then use a jumper harness to go from the obd2 96 ecu to an earlier non obd ecu or just straight up get rid of the obd2 ecu plug and run an older ecu for full control.
That has really crossed my mind.

The 96 harness has no plugs for the pre 96 ignitors or vtc solenoids. Is it possible that I could just get a OBDI engine harness and ecu and be done with all the OBDII junk? Would there be a problem running a pre 96 ecu without the VTC cams?

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1WheelWonder wrote:
That has really crossed my mind.

The 96 harness has no plugs for the pre 96 ignitors or vtc solenoids. Is it possible that I could just get a OBDI engine harness and ecu and be done with all the OBDII junk? Would there be a problem running a pre 96 ecu without the VTC cams?
I have everything you would need to convert to non-OBD. Cams, VTC gears, Solenoids, harness, coils, ignitors, etc... let me know if you're interested. Would probably sell everything pretty cheap. Email me...

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SuperHatch wrote:
I have everything you would need to convert to non-OBD. Cams, VTC gears, Solenoids, harness, coils, ignitors, etc... let me know if you're interested. Would probably sell everything pretty cheap. Email me...
Email sent lil buddy

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Carl H
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do the 96 ignitors not resemble the sr20 ignitors...i know the 94-95 ones are identical.

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The 96 ignitors are built into the coils according to the FSM, I bought a set of ignitors thinking mine were missing, I should have searched before making a purchase but at least now I have a spare set for when I swap to OBD.

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interesting...i'd sooner make a jumperharness to use those coils rather than go to a full coil conversion.also the older coils may not bolt into the head if they are the newer 'smart' coils they may only use 2 bolts instead of 4.

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Superhatch gave me killer deal on EVERYTHING I need to swap over to OBD and VTC so coils and a new harness is on the way.

My 96 coils did have only 2 bolts so looks like ill be fabbing up a bracket or redrilling the new coil brackets. Pics will of coarse be posted.


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there might not be material to drill holes for the new coils...if thats the case i'd make a small jumper harness to trigger the 96 coils.

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Making a jumper harness sounds simple enough but how would the ignitors in the coils come in to play, do you think they would cause a problem?

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Interesting trick to machine the bellhousing rather than having to space out the fly wheel.

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nah the ignitors shouldnt be a problem...if you still are sending me the harness it shouldnt be a problem to hybridize them...altho i would proly need parts of the 96 harness to make it work...email me some pics of the coil sub harness and we'll muse over it.

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I'll have you some pics come Saturday, work has me on lock down.

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Found a few seconds of time to snap and post pics of a few things.Pics of the Z32 transmission onI bead blasted and powder coated a few pieces of the motor Charcoal Gray to match the body paint because I'm ghey like that. Did the lower runners as well. This is the funkiest intake design ever BTW

I also purchased Intake cams, VTC soleniods, coils, ecu and harness.... for a earlier model Q45 that came with the VTC goods also OBDI vs. my OBDII off of Nicoclub member Superhatch, super mad props to him, so that will be this weeks project.

I've also started to look at the wiring which looks like a pain but I think I can use the wiring write up that Npez did to figure out which VH wires I need to use and then use the KA wiring that matches accordingly to what he used with his VG harness or atleast I think so. But if that blows my mind I can always borrow Carls services.

Any fellow former or future S chassis VH swappers want to work together to figure the wiring out?

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Small update, i've been swamped with work, life....................

But managed to get the engine to a point where it is ready to be put in.

Hopefully I can get the ball rolling and knock this out.

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Congratulations on the progress! The car looks nice as does the motor.

I'm curious to see what you do about the hood clearance, I still dont have any idea what I'm going to do about that. I think I'll get a spare primer hood and cut a huge hole temporarily. Any comments on the hood situation?

Thanks-Max

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Mazworx claims there is no issue with hood clearance but from the looks of things i think I may be cutting away at some of the hood skeleton and probally have to raise the back of the hood like the cool drifters do with there cars for extra cooling.

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I sure hope that is the only modification needed. I e-mailed mazworx about this issue specifically and this is what they wrote:

"Max, We have yet to finalize the full fitment of in the S13 and S14. The stock manifold will hit the hood on both. We came up with a way to machine down the intake upto an inch to offer a better fitment..."

This was on 9/5/08, I dont know if they've changed their kit at all since.

-Max

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regardless of which route you go some hood modification is needed...cowling is cool because it WILL vent heat from the engine bay.i'd imagine the s14 just needs a trim of the skeleton, but the s13 has a MUCH shallower bay than the s14 has to offer so it may be more of a trick.

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Well, just from looking at it I was confident that it would clear with no issues but apparently i'm blind as hell. I didn't bother bolting it to the rear hinges first just picked it up and set it down, latched the front and began to lay it back and sadly it hit the intake and lacked 1.5-2inches before it would even bolt up. So i'm fishing for a cowl hood of sorts now.


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