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yes i did some searching and vague info on the briancrower cams.

I'm doing an engine build and just bought some briancrower v2 264/264 cams for my ka24de.

are these any good? i'm getting my engine built with arias piston, eagle rod,. etc and this is the only thing i am doing to the head besides the 7intake/5ehxaust valve job.

And i am not planning to build a driftcar or super high revving engine, but a daily driver w/ some big power.

Anyone with dyno charts with these cams or did i just wasted my money?

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Very good buy for your car. You'll love them.

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Thanks, i'm feeling good about it now.

Hopefully i am not going to loose the lowend power. love the ka torque.

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i have em as well. you will definitly feel the difference. good all around cam with no modification necessary..

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thought you had to cut part of the cam off since they are altima cams? i would consider that a modification and a stupid one to have to make.

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Sometimes you have to grind one of the two cam ends down, sometimes you dont. Its luck of the draw with BC stuff. Really not a big deal, sounds way worse than it is.

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Yeah but for the money you pay for them...

Integral cams quoted me a price of $350 for set of custom cams. How much are the BC cams going for nowadays?

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WDRacing wrote:Yeah but for the money you pay for them...

Integral cams quoted me a price of $350 for set of custom cams. How much are the BC cams going for nowadays?
i got mine for $290 picked up from phase2

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Huh, not a bad deal then. I'm still gonna opt for a set of "custom" regrinds though. Just one more thing I can say is mine...lol. I'm weird that way I guess...

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i guess i'm reluctance to buy the BC cams simply because there is that possibility of having to grind them. If a company can't make them to drop in than it makes me iffy about how good of a cam they are. I know people use them have no problem etc. but just me personally. Probably will get them though since pdm and enjuku are twice as much.

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ShionS14 wrote:i guess i'm reluctance to buy the BC cams simply because there is that possibility of having to grind them. If a company can't make them to drop in than it makes me iffy about how good of a cam they are. I know people use them have no problem etc. but just me personally. Probably will get them though since pdm and enjuku are twice as much.
the part that you have to grind off is very small so wouldnt have to worry. i'm actually having a shop do my whole motor so he is installing everything professionaly. the only thing is i just want to make sure i am getting quality stuff.

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I've heard people complaining that BC cams are degreed off from stock. You would probably need cam gears to bring it back to stock to make power.

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sunnys14 wrote:I've heard people complaining that BC cams are degreed off from stock. You would probably need cam gears to bring it back to stock to make power.
So would i have to get JWT camgears to make these work properly?

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Most likely yes.

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I haven't heard anything about this and I've been running the V2 cams for a while now, they've been installed for about a year acutally.

I need to triple check my timing perhaps. Any idea how far off it is?

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sunnys14 wrote:Most likely yes.
How do i know if it is off? timing gun?

DevilMB3017, can you post up a video of how the car sounds with the v2 cams on. THanks

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It sounds the same really. The only difference I had is if I advanced the timing a little bit before I was turbo'd, it'd go a little bit loopy. It would rev between 700-900 pretty much. The exhaust note was identical to being stock though.

And now I have correction for the cams built into the ECU tuning, so there is no sound difference...I mean, I can post a video of the car I suppose, but you'll hear the BRM exhaust and the open dump pipe way before you hear the cams.

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A video sounds good. So then i wouldnt need to purchase the JWT cam gears then, if i have e-mance doing my ecu and setting my timing right??kind of lost with the timing for the v2camshafts.

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There are two different types of timing. The one that can be checked with a timing gun is called Ignition Timing. Ignition timing is strictly timing spark with rotation of the crankshaft.

Then there is cam timing. Cam timing is the issue brought up in this thread. Cam timing is just that, timing when your cams open and close your valves.

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480sx wrote:

There are two different types of timing. The one that can be checked with a timing gun is called Ignition Timing. Ignition timing is strictly timing spark with rotation of the crankshaft.

Then there is cam timing. Cam timing is the issue brought up in this thread. Cam timing is just that, timing when your cams open and close your valves.
I see now. SO then if the timing for the cams are off then it would drive like crap? How would i notice if i need to set the timing for the cams? sorry for the noob questions.

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Changing your cam timing changes the overlap. By changing your Cam timing you can increase power or move the power curve a little to better match where your torque curve is. However, when cams are purchased new you shouldn't HAVE to use cam gears to advance/retard either of the cams. Especially since the cam gears alignment marks are based off the cam being neutral or set at TDC when installed correctly. If the cam is off, you'd have manually align the cam to the TDC position. Is this myth or actually proven?

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My cam timing aligned properly, or so the engine builder said. I can't see BC making a cam that wouldn't work...let alone this being the first I've heard of it.

All KA cams have to have a little cut enough, and it saves us money because they make one cam for FWD/RWD KAs instead of two. I support cheaper, even if its a little work.

I'll dig up a video and post it later if I can find a couple.

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Thanks guys. i almost bought the JWT cam gears, you guys just saved me 140Bucks thanks.

All my parts for the engine build is done just need for free time to take the motor to shop.

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here, if you guys still wanna mess with cam timing, let me know if there's a need to advance or retard as i'll prolly pickup some and my friend already has some.

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=199832

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if your only argument to not buying these cams is that you have to cut a little off the rear of the cam you should buy them from ams. they do the cutting for you (for free also) if you request it.

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Anyone actually know what the part you have to cut or grind is???All it is a little bit extra metal used to drive the distributor in the altima. Took me less than a minute with a rag and hacksaw. Only on the one cam. I know with ams if you get form them they will cut it off for you before shipping.There is no grinding or anything. Just a simple cut.....

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240sxvaj wrote:
i got mine for $290 picked up from phase2
yeah, thats where I got mine too. I just used a hacksaw and did one tab at a time. You can leave a little room between where you cut the tab and the cam journal...dont miss and scratch that cam journal...go slow and take your time. I would avoid using a dremel just due to the heat. the cuts dont have to be perfect either, so dont obsess about it...

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240sxvaj wrote:
So would i have to get JWT camgears to make these work properly?
No, that is not true. I have the stage two ones as well and after cutting those tabs off, you just follow the directions and drop them in. Go easy on the engine for about 60-70 miles and then enjoy. I would also change your oil at about 200 miles and then again at 500 just to get all the metal shavings out...

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sirgilbert357 wrote:
No, that is not true. I have the stage two ones as well and after cutting those tabs off, you just follow the directions and drop them in. Go easy on the engine for about 60-70 miles and then enjoy. I would also change your oil at about 200 miles and then again at 500 just to get all the metal shavings out...
Thanks for the info....i'm actually getting the whole engine rebuild so i guess i can do the drive like you stole it break-in procedure with the cams? or is this break-in procedure only for the long block?

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You prly should use stock cams when breaking in the motor, then swap to the BC's.

I cant really wrap my mind around the need to baby new cams tho.. Does BC recommend a break in process? I mean i guess that anytime your dealing with a fresh surface that has to come into contact with another piece of metal that some sort of a break in process would be beneficial. I just dont see it making much of a difference, please correct me if im wrong. Cant say iv heard of a messed up cam due to a lack of break in.


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