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| « Re: V1 SHORT SHIFTER INSTALL (idahotuner) | 6:46 PM 1/20/2008 |
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great info, you make it seem so easy! kudos to you
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| « Re: V1 SHORT SHIFTER INSTALL (tu_bryan) | 8:34 PM 1/20/2008 |
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glad u figured it out. see, it wasnt that bad
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my ****ty short shifter had the plastic bushing fall in the ****in trans and it was like half of the size of the stocker
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damn, very informative, good stuff man.
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idahotuner

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93 Sileighty and 94 honda accord coupe
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6-28-2007
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| « Re: (vroom-chirp) | 9:11 PM 1/20/2008 |
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hey thanks guys.took forever for me to figure out something to do a write up one. so i kidna gave up. but then when iwent to install this i couldnt find any instructions so when i figured it out i figured i would do a write up
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duffman1278
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4-1-2007
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Good work should come in handy soon for me. BTW, what'd you use to lube the bottom part?How much stiffer does it feel than the OEM? Edit: mybad, just read "graphite lube" hehe

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idahotuner

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6-28-2007
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| « Re: (duffman1278) | 9:37 PM 1/20/2008 |
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it feels alot stiffer then stock. and alot tighter. but i think it will loosen up some when i fill the tranny with new fluid. which is one of the next things i will do. i might end up pulling the shifter back off to fill the transmission. s o i dont have to do it from under the car. but we will see.i am worried about over filling it. s o if i new the correct amount. then i could do it trough the shifter hole and not worry about it.
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duffman1278
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Just check the FSM for the correct amount. Thats what I did when I filled mine, drained it and put it in from the top.
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idahotuner

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| « Re: (duffman1278) | 9:46 PM 1/20/2008 |
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i read it was 2 and half quarts fsm?
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idahotuner

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6-28-2007
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| « Re: (duffman1278) | 10:11 PM 1/20/2008 |
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were will i find that. i guess i will have to search.
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PMSing Chicken
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6-17-2005
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How's the vibration?

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mrgreeneyes

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um, not to be a negative nancy, but the aluminum collar is supposed to go UNDER the stock lower white ring, spacing the shifter HIGHER than stock, allowing the reduction in shifter movement. so from the bottom, up: aluminum spacer wave washer stock white lower ball pivot-y plastic ring shifter ball new white top ball pivot-y plastic ring then the weird-arse top plate w/ retainers. i used to have one of these and this is the proper way to do it. your way will leave the small shifter bushing about .5" too far into the trans, not letting the bushing interface with the trans fork piece, but rather letting the "wrist" of your lever make the contact.
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| « Re: (mrgreeneyes) | 3:29 AM 1/21/2008 |
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^ good catch, i didnt even notice| Quote, originally posted by idahotuner » | | were will i find that. i guess i will have to search. |
look around a little. u can download them for free
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| « Re: (White Comet) | 6:10 AM 1/21/2008 |
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Well done how-to. Simple and clean. Good work.
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idahotuner

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6-28-2007
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| « Re: (D3stro) | 7:32 AM 1/21/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by mrgreeneyes » | | um, not to be a negative nancy, but the aluminum collar is supposed to go UNDER the stock lower white ring, spacing the shifter HIGHER than stock, allowing the reduction in shifter movement. so from the bottom, up: aluminum spacer wave washer stock white lower ball pivot-y plastic ring shifter ball new white top ball pivot-y plastic ring then the weird-arse top plate w/ retainers. i used to have one of these and this is the proper way to do it. your way will leave the small shifter bushing about .5" too far into the trans, not letting the bushing interface with the trans fork piece, but rather letting the "wrist" of your lever make the contact. |
it wouldn't have worked that way. i tried it. first off there is no wave washer. the aluminum ring has to go on top, because the hole on the top plate hole isnt small enough to hold the shifter and every thing in. i can take it apart to show you. the aluminum ring acts as a washer. from what i can tell. and if it was on the bottem everthing would not be held in place.
i dont have time to mess around wiht it today. but i will later. this week
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mrgreeneyes

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i had the exact same one so i KNOW it works the way i said... and the stock shifter has a wave washer.. just tryin to help ya out so when you go to make your first boosted shift, your lever doesnt snap/rattle like a mofo.
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mrgreeneyes

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| « Re: V1 SHORT SHIFTER INSTALL (idahotuner) | 10:57 PM 1/21/2008 |
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that image shows EXACTLY what im saying "collar" is the aluminum piece
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idahotuner

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| « Re: (mrgreeneyes) | 11:02 PM 1/21/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by mrgreeneyes » | | i had the exact same one so i KNOW it works the way i said... and the stock shifter has a wave washer.. just tryin to help ya out so when you go to make your first boosted shift, your lever doesnt snap/rattle like a mofo. |
yea i will pull it apart and see. what i can do. i just dont see how it will work doing it that way. but i will try it again.
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Quest4beasT

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1-21-2008
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| « Re: (idahotuner) | 1:18 AM 1/22/2008 |
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Those washers are a pain in the a$$, i think they mess with the trany staying in reverse when engaged.
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White Comet
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| « Re: (Quest4beasT) | 7:37 AM 1/22/2008 |
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greeneyes is right, i installed this exact piece as well on a friends car. im not really a fan of these shifters though, i'll stick to my b&m
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niemczykj

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11-26-2006
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| « Re: (idahotuner) | 7:51 AM 1/22/2008 |
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WOAH, the metal bushing goes underneath!... u put that in first, then the plastic yellow piece with the metal cylinders, then the yellow plastic washer/bushing. the metal goes on the bottom to make up for the higher position of the metal ball on the short throw.
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| « Re: (niemczykj) | 8:18 AM 1/22/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by niemczykj » | | WOAH, the metal bushing goes underneath!... u put that in first, then the plastic yellow piece with the metal cylinders, then the yellow plastic washer/bushing. the metal goes on the bottom to make up for the higher position of the metal ball on the short throw.
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its a work in progress. i am going to fix that part.
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s14tan

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| « Re: (idahotuner) | 8:50 PM 1/25/2008 |
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Hope fully you get it right cause ima be using this.. I just got my Megan racing Shirt shifter.

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idahotuner

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| « Re: (s14tan) | 10:59 PM 1/25/2008 |
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yea sunday i will fix it so settle down lol
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| « Re: (idahotuner) | 11:17 PM 1/25/2008 |
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I need it tomorrow!!!! lol
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derrick113
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| « Re: (s14tan) | 8:01 AM 1/26/2008 |
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great write up man. I had the same fidanza one in my car for about a week and got sick of it casue it felt weak and just didnt seem like it would last and got a B&M. i must say the b&m is a much better unit.

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idahotuner

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| « Re: (derrick113) | 1:27 PM 1/26/2008 |
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yea i wish i had got the B&m shifter but i will make do.
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White Comet
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| « Re: (idahotuner) | 2:05 PM 1/26/2008 |
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out of curiosity whats the price on one of these shifters? im curious to see how it compares to the b&m for pricing
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idahotuner

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| « Re: (White Comet) | 2:46 PM 1/26/2008 |
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the price is about 70 dollars for one of these compared to b&m for 250, or 230 which was the cheapest i found
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mrgreeneyes

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| « Re: (White Comet) | 3:35 PM 1/26/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by White Comet » | | out of curiosity whats the price on one of these shifters? im curious to see how it compares to the b&m for pricing | haha, the ebay addict asks for ebay prices? lol...
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derrick113
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6-29-2004
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| « Re: (idahotuner) | 3:36 PM 1/26/2008 |
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yeah i wasnt bashing on ya man, i went through that same process and trying to tighten the nuts up on the plates was def no fun. Then i got the B&M and was very pleased with the shifting throws but d*mn that thing was noisey. I'm a little skeptical about getting the revised version now but who knows. Good luck with the rest of the build.
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| « Re: (mrgreeneyes) | 6:47 PM 1/26/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by mrgreeneyes » | | haha, the ebay addict asks for ebay prices? lol... |
i know lol but u forgot i'm lazy. i was also curious to see what he paid for it as opposed to what they're going for. imo i woudl have gone with teh b&m its more but worth it. i dont like these style short shifters so maybe i'm biased.| Quote, originally posted by derrick113 » | | yeah i wasnt bashing on ya man, i went through that same process and trying to tighten the nuts up on the plates was def no fun. Then i got the B&M and was very pleased with the shifting throws but d*mn that thing was noisey. I'm a little skeptical about getting the revised version now but who knows. Good luck with the rest of the build. |
up until recently i wasnt even aware these things were making noise for some people. i might have gotten the revised version but my b&m doesnt make a sound
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7-8-2006
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I just paid $180 shipped for my B&M shifter. Cheapest i've found around is $210 shipped or so. Got mine through a vendor that sells B&M shifters on Honda-Tech. =)
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idahotuner

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| « Re: (hayai_240) | 11:49 PM 1/26/2008 |
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Lucky you ^ i wanted to get my motor in my car and thought i need to or it would be easier to install it with the tranny out. and i wanted to save a little money but for 180 shipped that is a a good deal
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| « Re: (hayai_240) | 11:54 PM 1/26/2008 |
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Yea Ben I just wanted to confirm once again that Greeneyes is correct. You'll be hurting your synchro slider shaft using the spacer in that position as of now.I have the same style shifter. I love it, then again, I've never tried anything nicer. But I would reccoment you use the stock bushing that goes on the little ball. It's much nicer for fitment and won't break like the ones that usually come on these shifters. Fix it or
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| « Re: (Didderson) | 12:56 AM 1/27/2008 |
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I got my Megan Racing one for like 40
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| « Re: V1 SHORT SHIFTER INSTALL (idahotuner) | 2:17 PM 3/14/2008 |
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should it be stiff when its bearly put on or how could i take care of that
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| « Re: V1 SHORT SHIFTER INSTALL (idahotuner) | 4:10 PM 3/14/2008 |
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Swell dude, very swell.
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