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nametakennow
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  The Exhaust Thread


One of the most common questions here in the Sentra/200SX/G20 section is "What exhaust should I get?" Besides performance, many of us are concerned with what our exhaust sounds like. It's a legitimate concern, as the seemingly ubiquitous fartcan/hornets' nest/bumblebee noise is all too common from the designers of exhaust systems for any econobox.

Now, I know we have members with a number of different setups. Therefore, anyone with a clip of their exhaust should post it up here so that there is a library of sorts for people to refer to whenever they want to see/hear cars like their's.

Exhaust Info:
Stock catbacks run ~2in in diameter.

Aftermarket systems range from 2.25 to 3in, depending on application.

QG18 and MR20-powered vehicles should stick to 2.25in unless they've got some kind of custom turbo setup or other special concern.

SR20 and QR25-powered vehicles should stick to 2.25in if NA and only doing I/H/E and minor mods. Once cams come into play, 2.5in won't hurt, but isn't necessary, either. Neither engine has been conclusively shown to suffer losses from running a 2.5in instead of a 2.25.

Turbocharged vehicles should go for a 3in exhaust and invest in a high-flow catalytic converter or test/race pipe.

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Exhaust Clip Index:

B16's ('07-Present)

QR25DE

User: jbarbaresi
Car: 2007 Sentra SE-R Spec V
Engine: QR25DE MkII
Mods: BRM exhaust
Clip: Before and After

MR20DE

B15's ('00-'06)

SR20DE/DET/VE/VET

User: nametakennow
Car: 2001 Sentra SE w/ Performance Package
Engine: USDM Roller-Rocker SR20DE
Mods: Injen CAI, BRM 2.5in catback w/ 14in resonator
Clip: Video

User: b15chik
Car: 2001 Sentra SE w/ Performance Package
Engine: USDM Roller-Rocker SR20DE
Mods: lots of turbo stuff including Garrett GT28RS, 3" vrs exhaust with 24" resonator, apexi n1 muffler
Clip: http://smg.photobucket.com/alb...3.flv (Will update with new clip once you fix your car )

User: nismo4life11
Car: 2001 Sentra SE
Engine: USDM Roller-Rocker SR20DE
Mods: HKS Super Dragger, AEM CAI
Clip: Neutral Rev Under Load

QR25DE

User: spec-bre
Car: 2002 Sentra SE-R Spec V
Engine: QR25DE
Mods: See clip titles.
Clip: I/H/cams - 2.5in Magnaflow
Boosted - 2.75in dp, 3in cat delete, 3in Stromung SS exhaust
Boosted under load
Interior shot (boosted)

QG18DE

B14's ('95-'99)

GA16DE

User: ImHidingInTheBackseat
Car: 1996 Sentra GXE
Engine: GA16DE
Mods: Flowmaster muffler, resonator delete
Clip: Neutral Rev

SR20DE/DET/VE/VET


B13's ('91-'94)

SR20DE/DET/VE/VET

User: Submitted by StealthWhiteB13, unknown owner
Car: 91-94 SE-R
Engine: SR20DET
Mods: Turbo'd - unknown setup, HKS exhaust
Clip: Video

GA16DE

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 « Re: The Exhaust Thread (nametakennow)


sounds good man, this should be a good thread if some more people take advantage of it. hopefully i'll have my exhaust soon so i'll be able to post. i love the way your intake and exhaust sound together from inside. oh yeah, pretty sick under load too. you know that's not a honda.
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The mic on my digi is ridiculously sensitive, so it gets overloaded and clips the sound a bit. The exterior shot at the end surprised me. It sounded like the depths of Hell were coming out of my car (in a good way) even when I was 100yds down the road. Fortunately, it's loud without being obnoxious (I think). It's not as loud as the video indicates, but it's close.

I know I've seen more clips posted around here before, so this thread will grow with time.

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 « Re: The Exhaust Thread (jbarbaresi)


Quote, originally posted by jbarbaresi »
sounds good man, this should be a good thread if some more people take advantage of it. hopefully i'll have my exhaust soon so i'll be able to post. i love the way your intake and exhaust sound together from inside. oh yeah, pretty sick under load too. you know that's not a honda.

Maybe do a before and after for comparison?

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 « Re: The Exhaust Thread (gotak)


sounds like a plan, i'll do that for you guys. but you all have to buy brm
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 « Re: The Exhaust Thread (jbarbaresi)


I'll get some video tomorrow of mine...inside and outside of the car.



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 « Re: The Exhaust Thread (nametakennow)


This is a great idea for those of us who dont have any mods yet. It also cuts down on the "What exhasut should I get" posts. Great idea!

By the way, your setup sounds real good!



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Quote, originally posted by NSR_s30 »
I'll get some video tomorrow of mine...inside and outside of the car.

where's that video?

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Car: 2001 Sentra SE w/ Performance Package
Engine: USDM Roller-Rocker SR20DE
Mods: lots of turbo stuff including Garrett GT28RS, 3" vrs exhaust with 24" resonator, apexi n1 muffler

i will get a clip up as soon as i figure out what's wrong with my car, lol. for now, you can listen to my lumpy idle :D
http://smg.photobucket.com/alb...3.flv




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 « Re: The Exhaust Thread (jbarbaresi)


Quote, originally posted by jbarbaresi »
where's that video?
Lol totally forgot about it, will get it put up tomorrow. Sorry for the wait.
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11-19-2007

 « Re: The Exhaust Thread (nametakennow)


so... this is a good idea for a thread, especially since it seems there are a lot of should i use this or that or this posts about exhaust. in my reading of one of those posts (BRM vs. Stillen i believe) there was videos of some S13 with what they quoted was BRM w/ 14" resonator. it had dual exhaust tips in the vid (and following some youtube links, i've seen many more similar BRM setups). however, in searching BRM's web catalog, all i see offered for nissan/infinit products are single tip exhausts. anyone know exactly what product the "BRM w/14" resonator" video portrays?

p.s. some naive-ity here, but what is a resonator? (i would assume that refers to "muffler")


thanks!!!

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Quote, originally posted by CA_zephyr »
so... this is a good idea for a thread, especially since it seems there are a lot of should i use this or that or this posts about exhaust. in my reading of one of those posts (BRM vs. Stillen i believe) there was videos of some S13 with what they quoted was BRM w/ 14" resonator. it had dual exhaust tips in the vid (and following some youtube links, i've seen many more similar BRM setups). however, in searching BRM's web catalog, all i see offered for nissan/infinit products are single tip exhausts. anyone know exactly what product the "BRM w/14" resonator" video portrays?

p.s. some naive-ity here, but what is a resonator? (i would assume that refers to "muffler")


thanks!!!

you can order brm exhaust with a single tip or dual tip on the muffler. both are identical internally and provide the same sound, it's just a matter of preference. i believe the dual tip is like an extra $30 or so.

the main function of a resonator is to quiet down the exhaust a little bit, and it will also cancel out alot of the higher exhaust notes which results in the lower tone you hear in exhausts similar to brm. your exhaust won't sound raspy at high rpms with a resonator.

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You'll have to talk to Greg or whoever they have answering the phones at BRM to get the exact specs, but most of their exhausts are offered with a dual tip configuration.

A resonator is essentially another, smaller muffler placed further up in the exhaust system. Your car has one from the factory. It quiets noise, especially in the cabin, and really cleans up the tone.

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Just so everyone knows:

I'm going to clean up the thread as it goes by copying everyone's descriptions and clip URLs into the first post. That way there's an index up top, then discussion afterward. With clips and discussion being mixed together, it could be difficult to someone who's searching for a certain clip.

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i was going to make that suggestion myself... i don't think enough people have video clips though
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I think that this thread will have to sit awhile before it really becomes what I'm thinking it should be. It can be a PITA to put together a decent clip and we have a lot of intermittent posters in this section.

Regardless, we'll wait and see a bit. I may do some hunting around later to see if I can find clips of a few other systems and just put them up myself.

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you may want to post in the sr20 forum or check that one for more clips, i know a lot of b15 owners visit that forum more than this one but us qr guys don't have our own forum
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nametakennow, is your email working? i got a "cannot be delivered" message. i need some help editing videos. my brm should be here tomorrow and i want to get some clips posted asap. get with me offline when you get the chance please. thanks.
jbarbaresi@yahoo.com
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The email went through, I just got it.
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eh, i can't get the stupid movie maker to recognize my camcorder to import or upload from the videos i already saved to the computer. so frustrating...
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i've got a couple clips, interior and exterior, of the stock exhaust on the 07 spec v that i took for comparison purposes, kind of a before and after in anticipation of getting my new exhaust on there. if you want i can upload them to youtube and post a link on this thread, don't know if your intention was just aftermarket exhaust clips or what... let me know.
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If you can figure out how to put them together with your aftermarket clips (if UPS ever follows the yellow brick road and finds a brain), that'd be best.

If you're still having trouble putting them together, when you have all the clips done you can email them to me (I'll give you an alternate email addy to the one listed in my profile so that it can handle large files) and I'll trim/put them together for you.

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i definitely can't merge the clips with movie maker, i also tried another free downloadable move editor that wouldn't work either so i'm pretty sure it has something to do with the clips, not the software. i don't know if it would be a compatability issue because the camcorder is new or if there's some kind of copyright encription put on the file when you upload it to the computer, but if you want you can give it a try. email me the address you want me to send it to and i will send you two clips to try out and see if you have any luck. thanks.
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Well the exhaust finally got here last night and I JUST finished installing it. Took a quick teaser video just to get the sound on here. I think it sounds pretty good on the video but even 10 times better in person. I don't know why the camera mic is picking up that sound during backpressure, you can't hear that in person, anyone know what it is? I have to say I absolutely love the way this exhaust sounds on my car, both from inside and from outside. I took it out for a quick spin and it's not obnoxious at all, on the highways you don't even hear it unless accelerating and under normal city driving it makes your car sound "authoritative" but not ricer in the least. i'll get a video under load and a drive by, as well as interior clip this weekend or whenever the weather clears up a bit. On my youtube profile i have some stock video clips for comparison if you're interested. please feel free to comment. Enjoy!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pRf3fx3vFzM

Modified by jbarbaresi at 2:07 PM 12/15/2007

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Quote, originally posted by jbarbaresi »
i definitely can't merge the clips with movie maker, i also tried another free downloadable move editor that wouldn't work either so i'm pretty sure it has something to do with the clips, not the software. i don't know if it would be a compatability issue because the camcorder is new or if there's some kind of copyright encription put on the file when you upload it to the computer, but if you want you can give it a try. email me the address you want me to send it to and i will send you two clips to try out and see if you have any luck. thanks.

Oh, man i found out that movie maker lacks a lot of updated codecs. .MKV files are the newest pain in the arse to watch and my bro hooked me up with something called "Combined Community Codec Pack". I'm at home in the country on dial up, but i can drive to the college for high speed. If i can email it to you, i will. Otherwise we'll find another way. It'll update movie maker and also give you this other program to play the files.

Good deal on this topic by the way. I'm also contemplating which cat-back setup to go after; really, aside from BRM and VRS, i'm not sure whats available. But i can check out the vids as well when i get into town.

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nametaken, the links you have to my videos are dead. here are the correct ones:

before
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B5gYa0h-BWA

after
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OSJeJ7WIn5s

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Good stuff, I'll edit. Thanks!
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I'm loving the sound of those BRM exhausts. Anyone have one on an '02 that I can listen to?



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VIS Racing Octane body kit, custom taillights, green Streetglow underglows, red interior Streetglow, OttoR bucket racing seats, AEM CAI, DC Sports racing header, BRM cat-back exhaust, Unorthodox Racing crank pulley, OBX throttle body spacer

Upcoming: VIS Racing TSC 3 front bumper

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Quote, originally posted by PacoBJuarez »
I'm loving the sound of those BRM exhausts. Anyone have one on an '02 that I can listen to?
i think the '02 spec v sound will be very similar to the '07, they use the same engine. the BRM sounds even better in person, you would be happy with it if you are looking for deep non ricey sound.
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Quote, originally posted by jbarbaresi »
i think the '02 spec v sound will be very similar to the '07, they use the same engine. the BRM sounds even better in person, you would be happy with it if you are looking for deep non ricey sound.

I'm pretty sure I will be very happy with that. BRM with 2.5' piping is where I'm leaning right now.

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make sure you get the resonator.
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Quote, originally posted by jbarbaresi »
make sure you get the resonator.

Absolutely. Don't leave home without it. Just wish I could find a way to get the whole thing for cheaper than around $500.

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all i see here is BRM this and Greddy that.. what about the new Stillen 2.5" Cat-Back exhaust?? i talked to Stillen on the phone and they said it should produce some power.. The resonator is already built into it.. its all one piece and is a little expensive sitting at 500+ but on top of that its designed especially for the 07 Sentra 2.0 ... Fits right into the stock mounting area's.. no adjustments or welding is needed.. my overall question is does anyone know how well this Stillen Cat-Back exhaust is. I am getting ready to order it this coming week.. would like some feedback



2007 Sentra 2.0SL Fully Loaded, BRM 2.5" Cat-Back Exhaust w/Resonator, Stillen Hi-Flow CAI, Debadged, 20% Tint
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Quote, originally posted by nlonigro »
all i see here is BRM this and Greddy that.. what about the new Stillen 2.5" Cat-Back exhaust?? i talked to Stillen on the phone and they said it should produce some power.. The resonator is already built into it.. its all one piece and is a little expensive sitting at 500+ but on top of that its designed especially for the 07 Sentra 2.0 ... Fits right into the stock mounting area's.. no adjustments or welding is needed.. my overall question is does anyone know how well this Stillen Cat-Back exhaust is. I am getting ready to order it this coming week.. would like some feedback
somebody just ordered the stillen exhaust for the 2.0, but hasn't left any feedback about it yet so i don't know if he's received/installed it. and any one of the catback exhausts you mentioned fit right into the mounting areas without adjustment or welding needed, just fyi. the biggest differences from one catback to another that use the same diameter piping is going to be the appearance and the sound. pretty much all will produce the same gains, so unless you really like the stillen and don't mind paying more for an exhaust go for it. don't buy it just because of the name though.
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Stillen is a good company, so it's not a quality issue. I'm just not a huge fan of how they sound.
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what do they sound like???? i havent orded this yet and I want something thats gonna sound NICE.. I would love to get Greddy but there mucho expensive and i dont think theres one out yet.. is there???? thats for the 2.0 of course .. is Stillen a higher pitch or melow???
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Quote, originally posted by nlonigro »
what do they sound like???? i havent orded this yet and I want something thats gonna sound NICE.. I would love to get Greddy but there mucho expensive and i dont think theres one out yet.. is there???? thats for the 2.0 of course .. is Stillen a higher pitch or melow???

from the sound clips i've heard, stillen tends to get a little raspy at higher rpm's, correct me if i'm wrong. honestly i think BRM would be a better bang for your buck. what kind of sound are you looking for? brm is very deep all throughout the power band, it's quiet at idle but sounds very mean under throttle. i think stillen is just slightly louder under load. both have a very "stockish" appearance.
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Well personally I dont want something that looks stockish.. I like the look of having aftermarket stuff.. and I want something that roars when your on the throttle and also has a deep sound at idle... Money isnt really the problem unless it gets up over 600 which is crazy.. 2.5" is the largest size i will go.. anything bigger then that is overkill and raspy.. Ive been told awesome things about the stillen but at same time been told some off things about the sound which is a big part of my choice.. I know this is offtopic a little bit but what about the CIA from stillen???? Im also ordering that next week.. Getting both at once. the exhaust is still up in the air as far as which one i want.. the Stillen is on sale right now for 498 bucks and FREE shipping.. Great deal atm

Modified by nlonigro at 5:50 PM 1/11/2008
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Best bet for that kind of sound is going to be a BRM, Apex-i WS2, or custom setup using an Apex-i N1 can (make sure to put a resonator on there). The Stillen does get a bit raspy.

Their CAI is good stuff, go for it.

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Is there a Apexi-WS2 for 2.0 Sentra?? and can you post link to it plz

Also considering BRM but i dont see anything for the Sentra 2.0 and would I be the first to put the BRM on a 2.0???? i know couple have them on there Spec V's but i havent seen anything about the 2.0 yet

Modified by nlonigro at 8:22 AM 1/12/2008

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