Why do you want the coilover?
Don't say DD
If you want it to drive around everyday, its because you want to be slammed
If not, then don't buy coilovers for DD
They are rough and harsh 80% of the time
If you want to fix the harshness, find a company called Sprint Springs (or others)and order yourself or 6/5 or lower springs
The coilovers will still function as well as they did before
After all, it would be for DD right?

You Track guys
Ok, understand, it doesn't matter if your going to do grip or drift
All these coilovers will do the same thing
Its all in how you ADJUST THEM
varying dampening and spring rates

So really, it all matters in the brand and setup you choose in how you want it to handle in whatever aspect it should

Getting opinions?
Before you hover your little 14 year old finger over the New Thread button, read this

95% of people that comment on coilovers, have only owned one set, or have ridden in a car with them

once you understand that, and get past it, you will be fine

the people you need to listen to are the few of us that have had 4 or 5+ coilover sets
Every coilover (well not so much these days) are distinct. Anyone that has ridden in a car with Cusco and one with JIC can tell you they handle with varying degrees of difference.
all the Megan/kts/lower stance/etc etc all will handle the same, so it doesn't matter
The thing however with the generic 1200< coilovers is the dampening
K sport for a fact has an over dampened rear which makes it unpredictable
i don't recommend them at all, and i own a set. I barely drive my Stagea because of them
id rather have blown JICs than have them

Regardless, please don't make a Which Coilover thread

Unless your going to make a specific thread on a specific topic, there is no need.

No one will be able to tell you what you need, only finding a car with the coilovers you want to, and either riding in or driving will allow you to make an informed decision (except for rare cases of people that know what they are talking about for that particular brand(s))

anyways, thats my 2 cents
and to make it a yokota post

**** off

Good stuff.

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but yeah..+1.29938 for good (not ball crushing) thread/advice...

PS. I used your tire stretch thread to explain it to people on Jbody.org. +1

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Put the coilovers on

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It hurts my boobs

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Sip, I love your sig.

I showed the wife, she schoffed.
I'm thinking of making a 'flash' version

Hahahaaaaaa it's about time you made this thread!

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But those are in the coilover price range, right?

They're $1050 shipped anywhere in the US.

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i cant tell you

its all relative, but i have 18k/16k springs in my stagea, so i like a rather firm ride
its not tat bad

I'm buying new suspension soon and was going to start a poll, but like you said the feedback will be uninformed. The s14 is my daily driver from april-oct/nov. and then I take it off the road for the winter. However I will be auto-crossing it next spring/summer, so I want some good coilovers.

I've decide that I want to have pillowball mounts, and an electronic dampening force controller, so the way I see it, I have three choices.
Tanabe sustec pro7
Cusco zero-2e
Tein super drift

I was leaning towards cusco, but they only have 5 way dampening adjustability, so now I'm leaning towards tanabe. I've heard that tein is over-rated from people that have owned/still own them.

So in your opinions, what would be the best bet?

andn tanabae....well they are in the middle of everyone to me. They arent bad, but they dont stand out

i reallllly liked my cuscos on my FD3S

But I do still need help! Currently, I have KYB adjustable AGX struts/shocks with Tein S-Tech springs. But my s13 feels far crappier than I would have expected.

Anybody around the DFW area wanna drive my car and help me troubleshoot?

S13 Project Cloud current status: KYB AGX shocks/struts, Tein S-Tech springs, Suspension Techniques front/rear sway bars, Ebay front/rear strut bars, Hawk HPS brake pads, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Agency Power braided brake lines w/Motul fluid, Exedy Stage 1 Racing Clutch, Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel, AEM short ram, Custom 2.5 exhaust. Wheels: 17x7.5 w/30mm rear spacer(Super Fail ).

S14 Project Red XIV current status: Tokico Blue shocks/struts, Eibach Pro springs, 18x8.5+33 Z33 Anniversary wheels all around

with that said, its all in HOW you feel the bumps
do they make the car hop, do they just make it bounce after the bump, or does it absorb it, and just keep going

its all in HOW you feel the bumps. IMO a good coilover will absorb the bump(at 12/10s however, youll still get josled) and level out after that bump. It shouldnt take 2 or 3 strokes to get it to stop bouncing

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ive got a question for the wheel/tire/suspension guru (yoko) , so i have 12/10 megan tracks. i love um, tho i have nothing to compare to. I do get bounced quite a bit on bumpy roads, its nothing i cant deal with, but say like some cuscos with the same spring rate. Will those be more stable, is that the difference between lower and higher quality, or am i set up wrong, or is that just effed up arkansas roads and its no big deal. dont get me wrong, im not complaining, id take my megans over stock anyday, but at some point id like to move up (when i get more cash) Basically, what will i see/feel different between my megans and say cusco, zeal, HKS ... top brands dunno if i make sense but thanks anyway

The best piece of advice I can give to anyone looking to buy springs/shocks, just go to meets and ask to get a ride in other peoples cars. Everything from shock absorber piston design (who has actually seen one?), owner knowledge, ride height, alignment specs, tire spring rate (thats never talked about), linear/nonlinear (usually very non-linear) rebound/dampening adjustment knobs, etc. etc. etc. make any opinion about any coilover or shock/spring combo totally useless. Ask yourself when was the last back to back skidpad/slalom/track time comparison you saw between different setups let alone different adjustment settings on the same set up. Who here has seen let alone understood a shock dyno graph?

After I graduate I'll have the time to redesign the entire suspension for lowered 240's but I know enough that if I enjoy the ride of a cheap spring and shock combo vs. a 32 way (total BS) $1700 coilover, I'm saving my money for now.

Something I've noticed and thought was pretty interesting is that most people try to emulate almost every aspect of successful race cars except the suspension. 20+ way adjustable coilovers just aren't seen on real race cars, its a gimmick and from everything I've read (because I don't have the money to conduct days of shock dyno comparisons) every company listed in this thread are great on marketing, bad on engineering.

The responses to this should be interesting... Again newbs, just go ask to get a ride at local meets and feel for yourself if you like it and ask what he's got. We usually don't say no.

good job

BUT
this thread isnt for people that care abou good **** liek the few of us that do.
Its for people that want a budget coilover to be low and stiff, but still handle decently
so yeah.

I'm saying, you're opinion means nothing to anyone but you when everyone reading it will have different ride heights, tires, ARB's, total weight and distribution, brakes, typical area road conditions (holed up city streets or not) and feeling for what is too stiff/soft, etc.
I'm saying, the best way to decide on what set up to get is to go to a local meet or autox and ask for rides so you can feel it yourself.

Modified by RBbugBITme at 10:13 AM 11/27/2007

"Cusco and one with JIC can tell you they handle with varying degrees of difference.
all the Megan/kts/lower stance/etc etc all will handle the same, so it doesn't matter
The thing however with the generic 1200< coilovers is the dampening
K sport for a fact has an over dampened rear which makes it unpredictable
i don't recommend them at all, and i own a set. I barely drive my Stagea because of them
id rather have blown JICs than have them"

End of discussion.

I'm not talking about shock dyno testing (saw that on zylvia) or even "what does the seat of YOUR pants say?" but has anyone run a track car in a controlled environment (say, a road course) and then improved the suspension, resulting in a reduction in lap time or some other measureable event?

From personal experience on other vehicles basic things like bigger swaybars, stiffer springs and "performance" shocks (anything other than stock is performance when you're dealing with 60's suspension) reduce body roll (and increase ride harshness) and generally allow the vehicle to handle better up to the limits of the tires. I would imagine the same applies here. What results have others had and with what setups? Sorry about the run-on Kerouac sentences, I'd just like to avoid wasting my cash on a setup that does nothing.

notice, you quoted the beginning of my post

not the end...
quit being a smartass and stfu