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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana) | 4:49 PM 3/25/2007 |
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um... thats some serious ghetto riggin. have fun 
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must have vid
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Great project man. I LOVE a serious DIY setup, and yours is basically the epitome of DIY. The CA is tiny, but for low boost it will be a fun daily driver. Probably get you close to 200WHP for extremely cheap. Do keep us posted.WD
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i wish i had turbos and parts layin around:(, all i have is a block & crank & 2 messed up cylinder heads,lol.sounds like a nice build up though, for the price!
93' 240sx fastback - 10.240 @ the local 8th mile."Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" - Carroll Shelby "Horsepower is the force that determines how fast you hit the wall. Torque is the force that determines how far you take the wall with you after you hit it." - Unknown "Real cars don't make power at the front wheels....they lift them."
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana) | 8:26 AM 3/26/2007 |
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That poor SOHC manifold looks frikkin raped and mutated. Kind of like a torn up a**hole.
But 200whp! probably worth trying =]sil80
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Lol! Keep us upadated!
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| « Re: (boznuttz) | 8:53 AM 3/26/2007 |
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This thread is like watching a fight. Someone should stop it but it is too damn entertaining.
 
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| « Re: (redtop91) | 9:03 AM 3/26/2007 |
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No way man I think this project is fwakin awesome. People spend so much effort to get 200rwhp NA, and here he will get it under 500 dollars, small turbo so no lag. This car will be fwakin awesome daily driver. And best of all the parts his using are really cheap to get too. Keep us posted homey.
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Chezedik
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You need to bake the mani before you weld it. That will make it stronger. I am excited to see this old girl. I would use a smaller FMU if you can help it though. 8:1 may be a bit much for a t25. Although, I understand the point is affordability. You probably could skip the intercooler altogether with an 8:1 FMU. Good luck - you must post video!
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (sil80drifter) | 3:03 PM 3/26/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by sil80drifter » | | That poor SOHC manifold looks frikkin raped and mutated. Kind of like a torn up a**hole. sil80 |
  I'm gonna second that thought. But it can't be as bad as my Ford 4.9 I-6 with a T4 Blow Through Carburated setup i botched back in the day. I'll have to dig up pics.. This thread is gonna be teh sechs!!
    
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PVC pipe will melt.
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| « Re: (Edub1) | 3:47 PM 3/26/2007 |
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What if is not directly connected to the turbo?
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Edub1
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| « Re: (redtop91) | 3:51 PM 3/26/2007 |
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PVC might work after an intercooler but not before. Your compressed air will be far too hot and it will melt straight away.
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| « Re: (Edub1) | 3:56 PM 3/26/2007 |
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Aslong as it's not directly attached it will be fine on both sides of the IC. I suggest either long silicone hose or use a jbend for the initial output from the compressor. I've done it before, it works, ugly but effective.WD
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Get a length of highstrength hose. Think the one we got is for sewer lines. Very thick walls. Has a wire inside of it.
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Chezedik
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Is the plan to run this until it blows, because I have to say, that could be a while if you are taking all of the appropriate steps, which it seems like you are. Do you have the SR piping for the sidemount, if you do, you are made in the shade.
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| « Re: (Chezedik) | 4:29 PM 3/26/2007 |
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I'd like to see how long this lasts. There is a SOHC down the street that I'd like to pick up and eff with.
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| « Re: (redtop91) | 5:31 PM 3/26/2007 |
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The FMU I have is actually adjustable (in some way, it's a buddy's and I've never seen one like it before). I have a front mount that came with the RB, complete w/ piping (for the RB) so I may just throw that in there and figure out a way to make stuff line up. IF it doesn't blow (that's not really the goal, just considered the likely result) I'll drive it until I have the RB fully prepped to drop in. At that point, if everything is still in good shape I'll put the mani/turbo/downpipe/oil lines up for sale for a couple hundred bucks and someone else can enjoy a cheap KAeT  .
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| « Re: (Chezedik) | 5:32 PM 3/26/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Chezedik » | | You need to bake the mani before you weld it. That will make it stronger. |
I've been pre heating it with my torch before welding, which is working fine. After I get it all together I'll clean everything up with the tig too.
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Chezedik
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It will not blow if you correctly set the FMU. I would love an adjustable unit, but no one knows the level of adjustability. I may just make one adjustable. It would be pretty easy to do.
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (sil80drifter) | 6:05 AM 3/27/2007 |
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I don't want to know why you know what a torn up a**hole looks like, nor do I think anyone else does either. Did you do some time in prison or something? 
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Chezedik
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This is where the post-whores hang out!
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana) | 12:30 PM 3/27/2007 |
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DaAMMM that is like putting the TOW back in'2 GehTOw
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T | 1:56 PM 3/27/2007 |
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Technically they're all adjustable because you can swap out the diaphrams. I would definitly apply some pressure via a brake bleeder kit or somthing and see how much the pressure goes up.With that setup and a 8:1 ish fmu you'll probably be able to run for ALONG time with no issues at all. Whats the internal WG set to on the T25? 7-8 psi IIRC...just enough to not need any timing retard. WD
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (WDRacing) | 2:03 PM 3/27/2007 |
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It is supposed to be 7-8 but on the SR T25 it is more like 10. Ionno about the CA's.
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (eazye2000) | 2:18 PM 3/27/2007 |
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nkinThat's funny, my brother and I were just thinking about turbocharging my dad's '86 F-150 I-6 to see how long it'll hold. It just doesn't seem to die...
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Chezedik
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (WDRacing) | 2:40 PM 3/27/2007 |
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Some FMUs have an adjustment on the top by the vac line, it limits the vacuum going in and affects the ratio of boost to fuel. Fully open it is probably something like a 12:1 and closed is 2:1 or so.
Check me out, I'm a ricer: "I am going to get a stage two turbo kit, and nitrous, just like I saw on N4S Underground!!!"Stuff for Sale:
!!!BUY MY CAR!!!! 1991 240sx KA24DE-t for sale, very nice!
Stock and Performance Parts For Sale FS: KA24DE MAFS, Wheels, MORE! FS: TiAL 38mm, Jacob's i.C.E. Pak Ignition system, Z31 T3/T04b V-trim turbo more
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| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Chezedik) | 2:45 PM 3/27/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Chezedik » | | Some FMUs have an adjustment on the top by the vac line, it limits the vacuum going in and affects the ratio of boost to fuel. Fully open it is probably something like a 12:1 and closed is 2:1 or so. |
That's exactly what this one's like. I got the FMIC mounted today. If I end up with tomorrow off too, and my flanges and lines come in we'll be boostin' soon! I also scored a r33 crossmember for the rb swap, it was the one thing I was missing. $50 and local FTW!
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Would you sell that FMU? Maybe I can offer enough to get another?
Check me out, I'm a ricer: "I am going to get a stage two turbo kit, and nitrous, just like I saw on N4S Underground!!!"Stuff for Sale:
!!!BUY MY CAR!!!! 1991 240sx KA24DE-t for sale, very nice!
Stock and Performance Parts For Sale FS: KA24DE MAFS, Wheels, MORE! FS: TiAL 38mm, Jacob's i.C.E. Pak Ignition system, Z31 T3/T04b V-trim turbo more
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| « Re: (Chezedik) | 6:47 PM 3/27/2007 |
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ah yes.....the ghetto thread  This is gonna be a fun project......heck, it already is. Like Aaron said, the FMIC is in, need to get the battery mounted in the trunk, weld up them flanges and go to Home Depot for the PVC! I personally think that the clutch will be the first thing to die.....it feels really bad already. But we'll kill it in style thats for sure! I should go take a pic of the shop right now. 240 on the lift, the MG with the head off of it, and I'm building a set of twin turbos on a 98 dodge dually all at the same time....crazyness LOL
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| « Re: (Chezedik) | 6:52 PM 3/27/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Chezedik » | | Would you sell that FMU? Maybe I can offer enough to get another? |
The FMU I'm borrowing from a buddy, but I don't think he really has a use for it, so it may be for sale in a couple weeks, I can let you know. | Quote, originally posted by Dieselman » | | I personally think that the clutch will be the first thing to die.....it feels really bad already. But we'll kill it in style thats for sure! |
I have fears for the clutch too... 
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| « Re: (Bwana) | 6:55 PM 3/27/2007 |
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Are you planning to run this without fuel management on stock injectors?
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| « Re: (redtop91) | 5:33 AM 3/28/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by redtop91 » | | Are you planning to run this without fuel management on stock injectors? |
ADJUSTABLE FMU Reference entire thread above. 
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Pirate BURN!
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!!!BUY MY CAR!!!! 1991 240sx KA24DE-t for sale, very nice!
Stock and Performance Parts For Sale FS: KA24DE MAFS, Wheels, MORE! FS: TiAL 38mm, Jacob's i.C.E. Pak Ignition system, Z31 T3/T04b V-trim turbo more
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This thread rocks.If this can be done for the budget you're talking, I'll put it on the homepage. Aaron, take lots of pics. 
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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 5:43 PM 3/28/2007 |
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Ahhh F it, I'll post whore too. AZHitman, you have the most flippin posts I've ever seen. Also, how many ppl run this kind of thing without an intercooler? sil80
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Chezedik
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Porsche did it for a while.
Check me out, I'm a ricer: "I am going to get a stage two turbo kit, and nitrous, just like I saw on N4S Underground!!!"Stuff for Sale:
!!!BUY MY CAR!!!! 1991 240sx KA24DE-t for sale, very nice!
Stock and Performance Parts For Sale FS: KA24DE MAFS, Wheels, MORE! FS: TiAL 38mm, Jacob's i.C.E. Pak Ignition system, Z31 T3/T04b V-trim turbo more
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| « Re: (Chezedik) | 12:39 PM 3/29/2007 |
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^^ Z31's didnt have IC's either.Kick *** Aaron!
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