Ray, I was informed that you are building a remote mount turbo system for your vehicle and wanted to contact you. FYI - STS owns the patent on building and installing remote mounted turbo systems. We do offer individual and bulk licensing agreements so that people can legally fabricate remote mount turbos so please contact us. Operating under our license is the best way to ensure that you are not infringing on our patents and also ensures that you will get the proper parts and engineering/technical support to do the job properly and end up with a system that works well.

Best Regards,

Rick Squires

Squires Turbo Systems, Inc
165 N. 1330 W. Suite A-4
Orem, Utah 84057
Phone: 866-WE TURBO
Fax: (801) 607-6846
http://www.STSTurbo.com

Funny huh? I was just kicking the idea around, but never got around to it because a guy I chatted with who built one was having issues with his setup that I was going to replicate.

Oddest thing is, it has been a good number of months since I last spoke about doing the project. Bunch of bums can't read time stamps on forums.

I want to reply with something cunning and witty.
Whatcha'll got?

how about.......I do what I want.

they cannot put a patent on the placement of a part. unless you are using sts parts and reselling it, they dont have a case.

Keep it comin'!

By remote mounted turbo, you mean a rear-mounted turbo?

They hold the PATENT to the entire idea of doing it?

Don't people do that all the time? I know I've heard a lot of Corvette owners talk about it.

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Ask to see the patent and then post it on here so we can find loopholes and render it completely useless.

Will do! I hope I actually get it!

Good Afternoon Rick,

Thanks for the FYI. I am concerned. May I see the patent written out word for word, and possibly high light where "STS owns the patent on building and installing remote mounted turbo systems," for me. You could also scan it onto an email attachment for further clarity. I've seen quite the number of Corvette owners who seem to be doing pretty well with their own DIY mimics of your product.

Also, as far as I'm aware, I'm fairly certain that you can't patent a location. This comes logically to me considering that many other companies such as Greedy don't have a claim against anyone who builds or pieces together their own system that mimics their product.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon!

Ray

way to be professional, you spelled greddy wrong. jk.

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and for the record, as you seem well aware of, as long as you make everything yourself, and dont use their parts... you can do whatever the hell you want.. you can even market the system as your own, as long as you do not directly copy their parts.

its the same thing as "greddy style" blow off valves, and other "____ style" like parts.

Jeers at STS for threatening you.

I’d be glad to send you some information. The patent information is located on our website - http://www.ststurbo.com/patent - and it does cover the location as it is ‘turbo system and method of installation’. There have been some violators out there and we have shut a lot of them down and are continuing to enforce our patent and IP. Most people don’t understand the extent of coverage and protection that a patent provides. Our patents are very extensive and cover just about everything concerned with remote mounting a turbocharger. Greddy doesn’t have the patent on a front mount turbo system as that is the conventional way of doing it and you can’t patent something that everyone is already doing. So you are free to build your own front mount turbo system and nobody would care. STS pioneered this technology years ago and consequently was awarded patents for it. We are pretty easy to work with and have programs set up to help people do exactly what you are trying to figure out.

Best Regards,
Rick Squires

Squires Turbo Systems, Inc

165 N. 1330 W. Suite A-4

Orem, Utah 84057

Phone: 866-WE TURBO

Fax: (801) 607-6846

http://www.STSTurbo.com

Seconded.

Doesn't seem to thorough to me... ::shrug::

Witty replies anyone?

I guess it's a good thing I never cared for remote mounted turbos.

1st one: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi...5,568

2nd one:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi...4,282

This might make front-page news.

Rick, I hope you're reading this... You're about to make your company look very, very silly.

You can mount a turbocharger on your car anywhere you want, and there's not a DAMN thing STS can do about it.

Someone link this on the F-Body forums, this is a hoot.

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The gheyness of that patent know no bounds

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First of all its THE not A pressure side theres only one
Second the part about the pump? Lotsa people do that already on front mount turbos (pretty common on foci) thats not patentable and should pretty much invalidate this.
Third, as long as you don't mount the turbo in the exact locatio nthe original muffler was in your fine...read the last line.

STS SUCKS BAWLS...we should so spread this one around.

None of you clowns better build a blinged-out, high-hp droptop, I'd hate to sue you for coppin' my style.

BTW, I think Knight is doing some remote turbo stuff too, IIRC.

we have looked at doing a couple systems for customers from them but will now EMPHATICALLY suggest someone else

way to bully the little guy you ****ing greedy pricks.

this is going on LS1 tech if its not already there. what a crock of bull****

Not violating your precious patent now are we rico swarve!!!

PS. I'm in Australia, and I am going to go into business remote mounting turbos.... everyone can copy my idea for free, I give you full permission. So come and get me STS nut jobs!!!

IT'S MY IDEA NOW BISHES!!!

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B*tch, the navigator can be replaced by a machine. In my car, I am both the driver AND navigator. Trump card. You've got less say in the music being played than the squirrel I just ran over a mile back.

I'll do anything I want to my own car, and if you don't like it, I have a nice hairy nutsack you can suck on.
BTW: Anyone who wants to do a remote mount turbo setup, make sure you tell everyone it's an ozzie! "style" remote mount system, not that lame STS jive....

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/...80779

i hate it when corporations play gorilla chest pounding bull**** with the little guy.

STS is on my **** list.

The sections about the novelty and nonobviousness tends to get to me. Depending on how it's worded in the actual law, the remote aspect of the design would appear to be pretty obvious. I would say the big reasoning behind not seeing such a product sooner is two-fold. Turbocharging didn't become commonly used in the aftermarket until the early 90's. And from a performance aspect, it offered too much compromise. If anything could be patented perhaps his spin on the "benefits" of the remote mounted turbo.

All said and done though, if he were to actually file a suit against an individual, the potential award amount would likely be less than the legal costs to even file such a suit, let alone litigate. If I truly desired to build a remote mount system for my own use, I'd simply call his bluff in this little poker game he's playing.

Considering if I were to consider this licensing cost he wants to collect, the better option then clearly becomes going to a traditional mounted turbo system. Especially since it will perform better anyways.