raging panda
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1-5-2003
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| « Re: welded differential.. (jnay) | 11:14 PM 10/22/2005 |
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i have a welded, perfect if you dont mind a loud ride, and you dont drive like an *** hole, because you will spin out if you think you are some kind of gifted driver. its always locked up so thats kind of a null question, being welded means nothing moves inside the diff, the only thing that gives is the tires. you should probably search around since this has been covered before and you don't have a strong grasp on the idea of a welded diff.
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sleepyRPS13
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heres my exp from driving weld diff everyday.you will feel a push from cornering (that also means understeer is lurking tryin to getcha) help smoothn out some bumpy roads help you get up high entrance/entries (instead of doin the one wheel burnout) expect a lot of tire chirping you wont spinout like that guy said ,but be careful in the rain. (pls dont do donuts on the middle of intersection. police might think its me but i know its that 86 guy! bastard) my tire is fine from 12K+ mile (might be more)& from never rotatin tires, but it is aligned properly. low maintenance , no special fluid to buy. just reg gear oil. chatter from low speed corning (really low like 5mph, also depends on the pavement) open diff is prefered, cant (or difficult) weld vlsd or any type of lsd. etc etc... i got tired
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Akihisa
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Watkinsville GA
8-21-2005
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I run a welded diff. Just be sure to take the diff out of the pumpkin before you weld it. The first one I did I didnt take it out and the spatter that came off while welding screwed all the bearings up.
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spec-u-later
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5-7-2003
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Welded diff works fine. No noise except tire chirp on tight corners. It's free what do you expect?
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DrifterBoy240
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southaven MS
1-1-2005
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| « Re: (spec-u-later) | 9:03 AM 10/28/2005 |
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i have a welded diff and i think that its a little more predictable in any condition except snow but i havent drivin in snow yet this year so here in a few months ill find out.
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driftin2trance
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96 240sx
Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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where do u guys take it to weld it? and how long have u been running with them?my buddy had some bad experince with welded diffs but i think he is getting it welded all wrong, because he had 3 already and 2 of them shot something out of the casing about the size of a quarter.
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pregmantis
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10-7-2005
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| « Re: (driftin2trance) | 3:45 PM 10/28/2005 |
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Take the diff t a good welder. I think the weak spot would be the welds and then the spidergear pin. I have been using mine for bout 4 years....dngerous in the rain,noisy on slow turns but very predictable and fun.
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574-240sx
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Just get it done right. You may look like some tard when you are in a busy parking lot trying to park. Some people have horror stories with welded diffs most of the time it wasn't done right. Tires will wear out much quicker and road courses and autoX will be out of the question if you are trying to do decent. Weld it then save for a real diff down the road or buy a vlsd and sell it for what you bought it for when you get a real diff.
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raging panda
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1-5-2003
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| « Re: (574-240sx) | 8:20 PM 10/30/2005 |
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i wouldnt auto x one, but road course i disagree. Apparently a lot of budget road racers run welded differentials, the only time you really notice the unit not slipping is slow 2nd gear stuff. so welded diff for road racing = yesbeing that this is the drift forum, i would always say no to vlsd.
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574-240sx
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12-1-2002
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Say no to a VLSD and sell it a year later for almost what you paid for it, I would think that would be the way to go. Not everyone can drop $800 on a 2-way. He probably doesn't even have coils or a decent seat yet.
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sleepyRPS13
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was going to autox but been so busy with school and my kid plus studying for my ase. arrgg no life
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driftin2trance
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96 240sx
Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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i autox but i havent with the welded diff, i guess i will find out in 3 weeks cuse the next one is this weekend but i wont have the welded diff by then
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Anand
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7-23-2002
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welded diff would not be good for autox.I am running a welded... welded it while it being in the pumpkin.. it makes cool chirps while making sharp turns at low speed. I also have sub frame collars and so my car makes all kinds of noise but no more than a 2 way would. if you drift or want to get good at it.. I say, just do it.. the way your car will handle out there is like night and day.
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driftin2trance
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Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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yea, i know its gonna suck for autox but i love to autox on the weekends so i will do it anyways. i guess i will be the slowest guy out there cuase i will be over and under steering like a bia
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sleepyRPS13
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thats it im goin autox mine. as soon i get some 615 and do some alignement, bleed,flush at my school. ill be ready.anyone going to the thundergrip & slip&grip @ thunderhill?
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Dookie
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Lafayette LA
11-16-2003
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+1 for welded diffs, i love mine. Tested it out for the grind event in houston and i love it to death. Awesome event, I know me and Anand had a good time
Things Ive noticed:
1. DDing the car, the car tends to understeer when doing tight turns, not a big problem, just dont go in as fast
2. Diff makes some cool noise when doing tight turns, and people stare at you.
3. Swapping a diff on gravel sucks
Other than that, its freaking awesome. Have yet to do extensive testing in the rain. Not sure whats gonna happen if I nail a puddle
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BB Turbo
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Houston TX
11-19-2002
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I too run a welded and love it. I got to test it in the rain it slides out EASILY, just be very careful. I had lots of fun in the rain though.
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driftin2trance
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96 240sx
Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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thats one thing i am worried about, is rain. but i guess i will have to take the beast (volvo) out if it rains.
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sleepyRPS13
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i have no probs in the rain, especially on the rainy season. but if it ever snow'd in cali ill be skerd. water & oil is pretty scary too.
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driftin2trance
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Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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i dont have any problems in the rain but i have to drive normal and not drift every turn, cause they i may spin out. but i love my welded diff.
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kamikazi
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douglasville GA
12-10-2005
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i would have to say weld it if you dont have the money but i bought a skyline vlsd with 7k on it and its prolly the best 300 ive spent on the car so far.
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driftin2trance
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96 240sx
Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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my welded was 100, thats with buying a spare diff and welding it. i kept mine for "just in case" reasons.
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SlIp'n'sLiDe
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Oak Creek WI
4-29-2005
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do it i have it on my coupe and i love it, but that new set of tires that i went through in 1 week didnt seem to agree with it too well...lol 
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driftin2trance
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Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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yea, i go through like 3-4 sets in a month. hahaha
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Ender_Zero
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5-2-2004
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where do you normally go to get your diff welded? should i go to a shop that has a lot of welding experience eg. a muffler shop, or should i just go to a performance shop?
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SacramentO Ca
2-8-2004
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| « Re: (raging panda) | 6:19 PM 2/7/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by raging panda » | | ....being that this is the drift forum, i would always say no to vlsd. |
vlsd are great for drifting. not the best like a clutch type, but looking at my sig, an all stock 240 is very drift-able with a vLSD. Like i said, they are not the best, but you can find them under $300 (I got one at 250 installed, and my second one for 150) and they are awesome. My homie who one the Falken Drift Showoff a few months back in Berkeley Ca, told me he tried a welded diff, and preferred vLSD well over it. Even with that said, I'll still prolly try a welded..lol. Basically i just wanted to say vLSD's are great for drifting and all around driving. Peace.
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driftin2trance
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Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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| « Re: (Ender_Zero) | 7:19 PM 2/9/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Ender_Zero » | | where do you normally go to get your diff welded? should i go to a shop that has a lot of welding experience eg. a muffler shop, or should i just go to a performance shop? |
i took mine to a place nascar shop where they weld diffs for the cars and other stuff.
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9-6-2005
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| « Re: welded differential.. (jnay) | 3:52 PM 2/10/2006 |
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It will eat up your tires quick....
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driftin2trance
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Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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mine go pretty quick but thats because i do a lot of donuts and burnouts. LOL
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alpalwal
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| « Re: welded differential.. (jnay) | 12:11 PM 2/27/2006 |
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How exactly do you remove the diff from the pumpkin?
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Kornkidz
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1990 240 SX
Compton CA
11-5-2005
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| « Re: (driftin2trance) | 6:40 PM 2/27/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by driftin2trance » |
i took mine to a place nascar shop where they weld diffs for the cars and other stuff. |
I am defenatly ready to get my DIFF welded..but i dont know where to go to??? I dont weld my self so i cant do it on my own...but what did you say in the statment above i dont really understand you??? Does anyone know any So Cal places that will weld a DIFF??
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driftin2trance
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Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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make sure its a good shop that has done it before. couple of my friends took it someplace where they never welded diffs and he popped three (blows a junk out off the diff about a quarter size). i took mine to a nascar shop, they build mini race cars and they have done it before. its an old shop. ask them if they had experince in welding diffs. you can take it to a off road truck shop, they weld diffs too. but they will tell u not to take it on the road cause they dont want to be responsible it if pops and locks the rear when ur goin down the interstate and wreck and die. you dont want to have cold welds and u dont want to over crank the welder so it messes up the structure of the metal teeth and they break. just takes experience. i had mine since october and i love it. i drive on long trips and its cool. however, if i go to a drift event i bring my spare open diff just in case. hope u find a good place and works out for u. good luck!
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Kornkidz
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11-5-2005
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| « Re: (driftin2trance) | 2:25 PM 3/6/2006 |
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sorry about being a little late on reading the info...but thanks alot i really appreicate it. Theres an off road trucks parts place right by my house so i'll swing by there...i think im going to go with the welded diff....that seems to be the best thing for a BROKE MANS LSD!!! 
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driftin2trance
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Cashville TN
12-21-2004
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yea, give it a try. many people dont like it. i do. it was cheap and i will save up to get a 2way later on. just be prepared that if something happens u have the parts and u can have down time. i carry my spare open diff to drift/autox events.
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Kornkidz
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1990 240 SX
Compton CA
11-5-2005
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| « Re: (driftin2trance) | 10:22 AM 3/9/2006 |
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hahahha yeah i will go ahead and pick up a spare diff at some auto wreck yard or something...problem is here in california(so cal) i can never seem to find but maybe 1 or 2 s13 in the junk yard...and there usually already ripped up...but i will keep on searching 
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sleepyRPS13
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try weld locd 4 from luke... blu808@aol.commore info here: http://www.shockdrifting.com
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zeause
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| « Re: (sleepyRPS13) | 11:58 AM 10/16/2008 |
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I know this is an old thread, but has any1 ever taken their cars over 100 or faster with a welded dif? Is it safe? lol
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LayNLow240
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92 240 coupe
memphis tn
10-10-2005
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Mine has been up to about 135 and it was fine... on a track of course.
Edit: scratch that, got it up to 150 no problems from the diff, although that was a very large back straight at the track i was at.
Modified by LayNLow240 at 5:51 AM 11/23/2008
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BuLLeTdrift
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91 240sx fast baq
SacramentO Ca
2-8-2004
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lol this is an old *** thread ha. Lookin back at what i said i still didn't even have a welded diff yet. I've taken mine well over 100 mph and i'm not sure of top speed at initiation, buddy of mine told me i was above 80, but that was when i was KA. If its done by a reputable person, going over 100 is safe... on a track. How Safe can 100 MPH be anywhere else lol?? If it breaks, it doesn't really matter if your going over 50 period. Just get one that is done right.
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