Z24 drop in replacement (not Z24i)

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dose any one know of a drop in replacement motor that is a bolt in? i want to keep it a 4 banger as well

i would like to convert it to a Diesel motor but dont want to change all of the drive chain to do it so if it carnt be Diesel another petrol motor will have to do

i have been looking now for about a month but carnt seem to find much info on fitments

any help will be much appreciated

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i have
1987 Nissan Navara (3/1987 japan made) 2WD
chassis # NGD21-001331
Model # NGD21FM
2.4L Z24 (S) 2389cc
points(hall effect replacement installed)
singel spark dizzy
carby
Base Standard Cab Pickup 2-Door
Long wheel base
Diff / Trans Axle FS5W71C CA39
5 speed manual

ok so after going on 3 months *sigh* (my head hurts) there are 3 contenders TD27T4, TD27Ti or TD27ETi

TD27T = 1 wire almost drop in (need to change bell housing)
TD27Ti = 2 or 3 wire drop in (need to change bell housing)
TD27ETi = donor car wiring harness + computer +++ drop in (need to change bell housing)

TD27T = 5 to 7 hour install + exhaust
TD27Ti = 10 to 12 hour install + exhaust
TD27ETi = 15 to 22 hour install + exhaust

TD27T = around 9Km to Lt
TD27Ti = around 11Km to Lt
TD27ETi = around 12 to 14 Km to Lt
is that about right?

now a few things i haven't been able to work out
do i need to find a manual donor so i can use the bell housing , flywheel , clutch? or will a Auto donor do and use the Z24 bell housing , flywheel , clutch

[JarredH]

You'd have to see if the bell housing will mate to your engine and transmission to know if it'll work. So, either bring it with you, find out the information on the web, or you might be able to get away with making a cardboard template to see. Now, I'm no master mechanic and I've never had to deal with clutch and flywheel things, but I'd imagine as long as the flywheel and clutch have the same bolt pattern and size between the two engines, it should work, right? If anything, you can just buy a new flywheel and clutch just to have new parts for many Km's of use, and (hopefully) there'll be no worry about if it'll fit or not.

I'd think you can try the Z24 stuff and if it doesn't work, what's another trip to the bone yard?


Again, I'm no master mechanic, just giving some though into this.



Really though, with enough planing, money, time, and fabricating, you can fit anything into that truck. People do put LS3's into Miatas, after all!

Did Nissan ever sell the Diesel Pickups down under? All I can remember is that if was a European thing. Maybe you can find one of those engines. My year truck (91) Came in Diesel over the pond, I know that. And it does have the same transmission code you posted. Maybe the Diesel shared a common transmission? Then you can have Diesel without changing the transmission, or possibly anything at all. Just make sure you get as much harness and engine control stuff you can get if you don't feel like doing it all by your self. Sure, it's possible, but do you really want to do all that work?



There's my thoughts. Good luck on this, I wanted a diesel truck, too.

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i will be trying to get a full SUV as a donor but parts here are stupid prices

just a small sample

NISSAN TERRANO II 2.7 TD27 TURBO MAN PUMP ENGINE 97 TO 99 (24609) $2,365.00

Nissan td 27eti turbo diesel motor box and dash cluster $2,000.00

this is why i am trying to find out about the bellhouseing and and internals before i buy a full car

as for money i am on a fixes small income (disability) but spending $2K now and not having to get my z24 rebuilt for a 3rd time in 3 years and the realy bad fuel consumption of the z24's i am getting about 6Km . Lt the diesel should get almost 2 times that and be bullet proof

[JarredH]

Well, based on that 27eti link's information about that engine and transmission, and the pictures, it has the bell housing there, ready to go. Ask them if it has the clutch and flywheel, too. With that, you'd get an engine and transmission ment to go together for the price.

hardbody-diesel-td27-conversion-t482612.html
http://www.nissan-navara.net/viewtopic. ... 5&p=290560
http://www.navara.asia/archive/index.php/t-17223.html


Looks like the bell housing is different, according to that last link. Now I wonder what housing will fit the two together.

[JarredH]

Also, 6Km/L? My ka24 is getting about ten and a half, city driving. Maybe look into getting one of those engines.

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thanks for thos links

yes it would seem i need to get the manual version and that sucks because there 3 times the cost and like 1 in 10 is manual here hmmmmm

so its going to be like finding rocking horse sh^t

[JarredH]

Well, you'd only need the manual version for the bell, and possibly flywheel and clutch. Otherwise, manual or auto would work for the engine. Maybe see if you can find just the bell somewhere? Kinda hard to source parts for Australia when I'm in the States, so sorry I can't help more. I just don't know where to really look, ya know?

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hehe i know the feeling mate :-)

i am starting to think the same way with getting an auto but then i am having trouble finding a manual flywheel LOL

i can find a clutch kit and i have seen a few manual boxes but there asking stupid $ for them (almost as much as the car)

its all good i'll have to just keep plugging along at it

the BIGGEST problem is the 1 and only Nissan only wrecking yard in Brisbane (my home city) burnt down 2 years ago and depleted the stock of reasonable priced 2nd hand parts and shipping here in Oz is stupendously expensive so not worth shipping form other places in Oz

[JarredH]

Damn man, that blows. I guess you could ask the place selling the gearbox if they'll trade yours for theirs, and if they possibly have a flywheel laying about you can get. Maybe just negotiate a lower price? A little Social Engineering can go a long way!

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OMG I SCORED BIG TIME

91 TERRANO TD27T auto BUT (only 161,000 Km on the clock) he had bought a manual box flywheel clutch and pressure plate and all other items needed to convert it to manual and was going to build it up for his son

his son whined about it being not the car he wanted

dad's reply? sold the LOT to me for $1000 and told the son to earn the money for a car him self

WOO HOO ! ! ! ! ! !

about $3000 worth of gear

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and the fun has started

i have decided it will be easer to get the motor out by takeing off the body

here are just a few picks of the first day

step 1 get a donor



step 2 get to the motor



step 4 put the body off to one side so you can take more parts off it later and move the frame out of the road



here are some more pics

google+ images

If there is anything you want me to take pics of specifically let me know ASAP because this could all go real fast

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well motor is out and on a stand i bout from SUPERSHEAP AUTO less than 24 hours old and the motor only sitting on it for about 10 min
this could have taken my toes off
rated at 450Kg only had about 280Kg on it



then this happens



more google + images

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i went back to the store i got it from and got them to open a few others of them on the shelf and ALL had the same defective part/metal and they left them on the shelf to

[JarredH]

That's a little sketchy. I'd just weld it all up and keep going.

Good job on finding that donor, what a bratty kid! I didn't complain when I came home to my truck, gave my mum a big 'ol hug and drove the truck around! Hope the kid leaned something from this!