VH/VG Adapter Plate Prototype GB ... Who's in?

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As I promised, I called my machinist today and I have a final quote on the plates...

Essentially what I need to make sure this is going to work smoothly, is 2 people to pre-pay for the protos so I can get everything I need to start production of a few. With 2 people prepaying..

I am offering the plate for $250 as a prototype, the production will be probably $275 or $300.

The plate is a 1/4 in piece of A36 structural steel. Instead of having counter-bored bolts, machining bellhousings or using thick spacers, this allows all stock parts to be used. On my car, I have a N/A trans with my plate, and the small 1/4 in spacer that is behind the VH flexplate, which works with the OEM Z32 flywheel bolts. Everything works exactly as it should..

The plate has 90° countersinks on both sides. The plate is mounted to the engine using the top 4 bolts that are counter-sunk using M10 bolts. On the other side, studs are welded into the plate (actually M10 countersunk screws that are welded in place), so that once the plate is in place on the engine, the transmission simply slides over the studs and lines up perfectly. Provisions for the starter are made, however one has to cut a small piece off the block where the Q45 starter mounted. This is well covered in previous posts.

You might be thinking that the stock VH45 bolts are M14s. I have sourced via McMaster-Carr some threaded inserts. They are essentially like heli-coils in that they thread into the M14 hole and are threaded on the inside to result in an M10 thread pattern internally. Essentially, once these are installed they allow the use of M10 x 1.5 bolts, which are easier to source. Before, I had M14 x 1.5 bolts custom machined, and at this time that is not a cost effective option.

For those interested in the prototypes, you will be given all of the necessary hardware to mount the engine to the transmission. I do not have the provisions to weld in the screws on the back side (the studs that mount the trans to the plate), so that is the only other thing you will have to do.

Any interest?


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Send me the info of where to send the payment. Pm me or email me. [email protected]

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lyon23 wrote:Send me the info of where to send the payment. Pm me or email me. [email protected]
Same here. My email is [email protected]. I need one of these like yesterday.

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I'll take one right now. Let me know where to send the money. email address is [email protected]

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just so you guys know, I've seen this but Im not going to be back in town until sunday. I will tell the machine shop to start on monday...

my paypal addy is the same as my email listed in my profile... :)

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Payment sent. Looking forward to this. When do you expect them to be finished and out the door?

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Got your payment.. I am seeing if lyon23 is still interested and once he is, I will call the machine shop and tell them to start...

My guess is they'll take a week or so to be made, and in the mean time I'll source all the stuff I need to get from McMaster for the "kit"

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Hey Wes I replied to your email and sent payment.

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Sweet... I will talk to the machine shop tomorrow hopefully and get the ball rolling.. I have to go out of town until wednesday, so it will be then at the latest.. Ive used this place before and their turnaround is usually pretty quick.

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Awesome. This is one of the final parts I needed to gather for my VH45 Conquest. I can't wait to get this car on the road again.

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So...has production begun?

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I got back late today, I will be going to the shop first thing tomorrow morning.... So expect some updates by afternoon tomorrow... :)

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Sounds good.

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If these are still available I'll send the money. Let me know [email protected]

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Looks like we are 2 weeks away.. I just got back from the machine shop and they are starting production now...

Essentially the day they come in, the next day they will be shipped and en route to those who got them... things are lookin good!! :)

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Good to hear. Can't wait to finally get the engine and trans mounted in car for good! Or atleast a while, I hope. ;)

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hey wes, im interested, Email me [email protected]

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Any update on the status of this?

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Post some pics up whenever you guys have a finished kit..I'm very interested and will probably end up going this route for my vh swap

I saw you mention you were running a Na trans, any idea if a TT trans would fit differently? What about TT clutch/flywheel?

And one last question, do you know how much clearance there is between the heads/block and firewall with the shifter almost in stock location?

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The machine shop is shooting for this friday to have them done. I am out of town right now so Ill call them when I get home later this week..

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i am interested as well. just to be sure of a couple things though,
1) the are no fly wheel spacers needed correct?
2) essentially it is like a mazworx adapter, but with out the machining? am i right?
i would like to see some pics as well but i am very interested in this. i have money to send as soon as questions are answered.

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Hey Wes, are the plates done yet? I am anxiously awaiting mine's arrival.

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To Geoff.. You need to use a spacer, but its the one that is already behind the stock VH45 flexplate.. It works fine witht he stock Z32 flywheel bolts.. For the second, yes thats essentially the same except instead of being a "half moon" its more of a full circle.

I have some pics, ill see if I can dig them up..

I did not hear from the machine shop today, so Im guessing monday or tuesday.. I'll call them monday and get a status update...

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Hear from the machine shop yet?

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I left a message today, I should hear back tomorrow.. If I dont hear back tomorrow morning I'll go in...

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Alright. I'm not trying to be a pest or anything, but this is just the final part holding up my build. It's been far too long since she's been on the road. I miss her...
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Im very much interested in this as soon as the 1st batch goes threw. Ill be lurking threw this thread in the near future

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Just bought a Q45 today and want to swap it in a Z32. I am very interested in buying into the next batch.
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I just got off the phone with the machine shop, and all they're waiting on is for me to bring in a bolt so they can match up the countersinks

So they're looking like early next week for them to go out!

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I just placed the order for my hardware, usually McMaster is pretty good about getting stuff to you next day...

Anyway, for my reference and the reference of others, heres the hardware I bought...

M14 to M10 threaded insert kit- These are threaded into the block, and will hold the plate to the block.. 4 pcs per plate
http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=new# ... 66/=7rc9je

M10x1.5-90- These are welded into the back side of the plate and holds the transmission to the plate... 8 pcs per plate
http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=new# ... 48/=7rca82

M10x1.5-40- These are threaded into the block and holds the plate to the engine- 4pcs per plate
http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=new# ... 35/=7rcapu

M10x1.5 Nylon insert hex flange nuts- Holds the transmission to the plate
http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=new# ... 00/=7rcb6x


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