Nissan's RWD V8 Altima!

[SanoSuKe]

Why can't we have this?!








Full article: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012 ... ealed.html

[OutToWinPAHC]

they made an altima for men, cool

[IanS]

Eh, I would rather have a boosted 4 or 6. V8s just don't do it for me.

[OutToWinPAHC]

not me, boosted 8

[MinisterofDOOM]

not me, boosted 8

THIS.

DOHC V8s are the sweet spot. Low end torque, high end power, consistency in the middle, great sound, good fuel economy (drive one yourself before you argue) silky smooth operation...
You add boost to that and you cannot loose.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

The VK sort of breaks the mold when it comes to fuel economy. Its based on the VQ, so its a thirsty thirsty b****.

[themadscientist]

Why can't we have this?!

[SHIFT_COUPE]

Awesome! But that wing...

[dasoupdude]

There's actually some member on here that's currently building his L31 Altima with a vk..haven't heard from him in a while though.

[300ZXttZMAN]

I'm a boost junky as well.

[SanoSuKe]

I always thought "All motor" is the way to go. Since boosting an engine kinda hurts it over time. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Your must have been a honda civic owner prior

[SanoSuKe]

Your must have been a honda civic owner prior

Nope. 2 Altima Coupes, no hondas. Never boosted a car tho.

[IanS]

not me, boosted 8

THIS.

DOHC V8s are the sweet spot. Low end torque, high end power, consistency in the middle, great sound, good fuel economy (drive one yourself before you argue) silky smooth operation...
You add boost to that and you cannot loose.

Sounds like lots of moving parts, a lot of electronic ninnery, and way too much money.

[NolimitZ32]

I always thought "All motor" is the way to go. Since boosting an engine kinda hurts it over time. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

This is certainly not true, as long as an engine is designed, built, and tuned for boosted duty there is no damage. Most diesels now days have turbos and the rigs you see on the highways pulling loads all over the country will usually run 1,000,000 (yes million) miles without major rebuilds. Same goes for the old turbo Saabs and Volvos you see rolling around, many with 300k+ miles on them and no rebuilds. Turboing a vehicle that is not designed and built and tuned for it will cause problems because well a 7 year old getting in the ring with Mike Tyson will never end well!

[Q-ZILLA]

DOHC V8s are the sweet spot. Low end torque, high end power, consistency in the middle, great sound, good fuel economy (drive one yourself before you argue) silky smooth operation... You add boost to that and you cannot loose.

I can attest to that statement, except for the fuel economy. I have always loved my Q, but since boosting it; it IS damn close to good sex and more fun than most...

[float_6969]

I always thought "All motor" is the way to go. Since boosting an engine kinda hurts it over time. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

This is certainly not true, as long as an engine is designed, built, and tuned for boosted duty there is no damage. Most diesels now days have turbos and the rigs you see on the highways pulling loads all over the country will usually run 1,000,000 (yes million) miles without major rebuilds. Same goes for the old turbo Saabs and Volvos you see rolling around, many with 300k+ miles on them and no rebuilds. Turboing a vehicle that is not designed and built and tuned for it will cause problems because well a 7 year old getting in the ring with Mike Tyson will never end well!

My truck that I use for work is a '99 Chevy 2500 6.5L turbo diesel. I'll hit 300K miles in the next year. The only reason I won't get 500K miles out of it will be because the cab and bed will rust off of the frame first.

[Rev_D21]

...the rigs you see on the highways pulling loads all over the country will usually run 1,000,000 (yes million) miles without major rebuilds.

Hmm hmmm, some are rated to go a million but most need at least an in-frame rebuild at 500k.

[bundy26]

Sounds great.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_Bll5AKl0

[SanoSuKe]

Sounds great.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_Bll5AKl0

Thank you for that! Sounds awesome.

[Razi]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_Bll5AKl0[/youtube]
Same link, just not to the mobile site.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Sounds like lots of moving parts, a lot of electronic ninnery, and way too much money.

Fine.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCDHBWam1Y[/youtube]

Either way V8 wins.

[themadscientist]

OMFG, listen to those straight-cut gears whine!

Nissan, build this, not that Juke thing!

[IanS]

Fine.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCDHBWam1Y[/youtube]

Either way V8 wins.

Congratulations. There you have an engine the size of a school bus. Name how many racing series that engine could be made to be even semi competitive. I can think of 2, Drag racing, and Nascar/stockcar. You never struck me as much of a hillbilly, but hey, I have been wrong before. Even in drag racing, for the most part everything save for Top Fuel has switched over to turbocharging or twin charging.

A fail to see where any winning is accomplished. What kind of engines are at the pointy end of the field in WRC, LeMans, F1, Indycar, GRC, or IMA?

I am not saying V8s don't have their place, but a SBC is a terrible argument on their behalf. Pushrods, 2 valve's per cylinder, a single giant carb, really? Might as well have posted a flathead.

Traditional V8s are inefficient, unbalanced, difficult to package, and for the most part pointless. Not to mention most of them sound like Cletus's mud truck. There is a reason they are disappearing from showrooms.

It all comes down to opinion though. I will take the sound/feel/reliability/versatility of a smaller forced induction engine with a flat plane crank over some giant shaky monster. If someone other then Ferrari made a flat plane V8, then maybe I would change my mind about them. Until then, you can take your missymatchy firing order and go play with Jimbo and Barney.

[themadscientist]

Hey guys!

[IanS]

TMS, you crazy.

[themadscientist]

No, I'm Mad.

[float_6969]

Is that a W16?
Nevermind, I looked it up. It's what I thought it was, the VW V-V (W) 16 from the Veyron and others

[breadbox]

Make it a turbo RWD wagon and I'm there.

[MinisterofDOOM]

We're both passionate guys with different viewpoints...we're not going to agree. But you've got to concede a few points:

Pushrods, 2 valve's per cylinder, a single giant carb, really? Might as well have posted a flathead.

Wait wait wait wait wait.

Sounds like lots of moving parts, a lot of electronic ninnery, and way too much money.

Which way do you want it? Make up your mind.

Congratulations. There you have an engine the size of a school bus.

Have you ever SEEN an OHV V8? They're NOT BIG. That's a large part of their appeal.

Look.

Traditional V8s are inefficient, unbalanced, difficult to package, and for the most part pointless.

This is simply not true. LS3, LS7, LS9, LSA. JUST as versatile and balanced as any boosted four. 7krpm redlines, low-end torque, smooth idles, flat dyno graphs. They simply do EVERYTHING WELL. All of those have pushrods. All of them are excellent. Light and compact.

Not to mention most of them sound like Cletus's mud truck.

Some of us LIKE that sound. I personally can't fathom the appeal of the sound of most four-bangers. Taste varies.

There is a reason they are disappearing from showrooms.

They're NOT disappearing from showrooms. There are more cars available with pushrod V8s today than the last 20 years before. All that DESPITE hippie legislation and MPG obsession.