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Hey tekno, you mention you did your z32 rears with the aluminum uprights. Do remember if your hubs have tabs for the big ebrake bolt. I plan on doing mine with the stock knuckle. From what I gathered from all the articles on " how to" said you need z32 na hubs. I know the turbo hubs wont fit cuz of the different size axle. Also notice the hubs for a 90+ don't have the tabs. When you try to order new hubs they are the same as s14 5 lugs tabless. I'm pretty confused. So I guess my question is which ones are right or do they not matter?


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Brm exhaust 2.5 SS 22'' resonator Highflow cat ( Stock Motor, stock headers )
VHT Flat Black Exhaust Paint.

Finally fixed the exhaust leak. Sounds a little quieter with no leak. haha. Still haven't driven on it. But sounds awesome at idle.
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Video Link >>>Image Random revs up to 3500 rpm.

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tEknoS13
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I'm not sure what tabs you are talking about. Perhaps some pics?

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Im sure all na hubs are the same. I installed mine with Ebrake cables with no problem. Only mods I had to do was make L brackets to mount the cables by the trans tunnel

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Alright, so both of these are z32 NA hubs.
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The one is the first pic with no tabs, i'm pretty sure they are the same as s14 hubs. Second one is strictly z32 only. Now I can only find hubs without the tabs, which is 1990+. I'm planning on buying ichiba front and rear hubs. All i need to know if these rears will work with what i'm doing. The brake swap treads are good help but i need more of a straight answer.

front- ichiba hub. Not a problem. Direct swap. Got it.

rear-
" S14 SE 5 Lug Hub

If you are only converting the front calipers but still want 5 lug on all the wheels this option is for you.

Z32 NA Rear Hub

This hub is required if you are swapping the rear brakes to Z32. The S14 hubs don't have the necessary flange to keep the e-brake pin in place. The turbo model has some metal you need to grind off in order to fit properly. Avoid the turbo hubs if you can. "

Will be using ichiba rear conversions. This where i cant find a straight answer for. And then it talks about that big ebrake bolt, and I'm all confused. :gotme

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Wow, to tell you thru truth you let me too. I thought s14 wouldn't work at all. I took everything apart when I did the z32 swap but I can't remember thru tabs. I'm assuming the tabs are for the anchor bolt were the nake shoes meet? If you are using ichiba all you have to do is remove the hub and bearing and swap in the new ones. You would be better off using the entire z32 rear spindle man, its way lighter and for the strut mounting you can order the lower Coilover bracket to switch to the fork type instead of s13 eye hole type.

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Yea I know the z32 are lighter. I looked into going that route too, but I just didn't want to get more parts. As I already have bushings for the s13 knuckles.

http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-OEM-4-to- ... _3051.html

^This is what made me think s14 hubs are the same as z32 hubs. If I'm wrong let me know..

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Dude the knuckle bushings are the same!! I too bought the complete ES bushings kit, same setup. If that was the o.ly thing holding you back, let it go. Besides I only payed $80 for the Megan z32 Coilover brackets.

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Ok I got it. FRSport made third own kit just for 5 lug conversion. The hubs and bearings are almost identical with the exception of the "tabs" you were talking about. The tabs are for the anchor bolt for z32 Ebrake. With this kit you will keep the s13 type caliper with with spring type e brake. You can still use z32 rear calipers but I don't know how your ebrakes will work. It's a nice setup, BUT you will spend more money!! I say you get z32 calipers all around and do the whole z32 swap you have

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Are they the same?? I did a quick search found different part numbers for each car.. Doesn't the z32 have one that is bigger than the rest?? I found a set of knuckles for under 100. No idea about the fork brackets gotta call stance and find out.

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NOT the same

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The only bushings that are different in the knuckle should be the ones for the strut/Coilover mount

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That's what I'm trying to do. Sry for miscommunication...
Z32 brakes in 4 corners plus z32 ebrake, I know the s13 ebrake won't work after you go z32 rear calipers.

I'm trying to figure out how to setup the rear..
I know IF you have z32 rear spindle assembly( knuckle, hub/bearing, caliper all in one assembly) its basically straight bolt on.

What I'm trying to do is to put all these z32 conponents on the s13 knuckle using the hub conversion. Is that possible? Or do I still need the z32 knuckle for it to work?

Hope this clears it up a bit..

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If you use these where and how will the parking shoes rest? Do you have a close up pic of the z32 spindle setup? Because z32 ebrakes use shoes inside to rotor hats. To use shoes obviously you need the anchor bolt for the shoes to stop at the top. Call FRSport and ask if they can be used for z32 brakes without backing plate assembly. I don't they are compatible

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I'm pretty sure the z32 ebrake assembly will bolt up to the s13 knuckle. They even a place for that anchor bolt to go through. I gotta find that post. But that being said, now I need to know which hubs I would need. Weather it be s14 5 lugs or z32 hubs. That's y I was asking bout the tabs on the z32 hubs.

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Just did some research, z32 na or s14 hubs WILL WORK! I was confused as well but just clarified it. Here is the link....
http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm

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Yes it will bolt up to the s13 knuckle. The link says both hubs will work...

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Yup, used that link n another one as well. One said s14 hubs if your using stock calipers. Z32 hubs if using z32 calipers..(posted above, don't remember the source) That's what confused me... Thanks for all your help man. Really appreciate it!!!

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No problem man, just trying to help. Most people will be d!ck and tell you to search, but I've been there and its annoying. Although it is interesting about that "s14 if using stock calipers" The link I posted says s14 or na z32 which I ASSUME this means both will work no problem. Calipers is not a problem at all, its the ebrake assembly setup that is confusing... after all the backing plate itself that holds the anchor bolt. You ARE using the z32 backing plate correct?

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I think the thing is that those article are dated by now. I do my share of searching. Sometimes it's hard to get an answer when their post is 5 years old. I'm sure I'm beating on a dead horse. But thanks again!!!

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yea, good luck with the conversion. If you run into trouble feel free to ask dude.

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A lil UPDATE...

Installed a B&M shifter today. Install was pretty straight forward.

Remove the shifter dust boot/collar. ( 4x 10mm )
Remove 4x 12mm from top of shifter base. The 4 you can see after dust boot removal.
Remove 2x 12mm (front of shifter base) from bottom of car. I use a ratcheting wrench, took my time, also had to lower the trans member like half inch. ( 4x 17mm) Once front two are loosened all the way, I slid the whole assembly out from the top along with the two bolts.
Reverse for installation. Took me about an hour in 40* weather, not bad.
NO Pics, they're all over the place.

First impressions...
Way stiffer than the factory slop.
Noticeable engagement of gear.
Shorter throw. Height is about the same.
Took a bit to get used to cuz how stiff it is compare to factory, but i like it. :dblthumb:

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Have you tackled the 5 lug conversion?

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Actually just ordered my hubs couple days ago.(ichiba... yea i know i know...) n still waiting on my arms from enjuku racing. Then I still have to get my caliper springs n pins n what not. Even with all that, i still dont have any wheels to put the car on the ground. Still gotta do more digging on the wheels. I'm getting there slowly but surely.

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Kool, I suggest courtesyparts.com, that's where I got all my hardware for the z32 brakes. It's an awesome website and they show the entire catalog with part numbers. All you have to do is click on the parts :-) Done. It's all good man, we all stumble across problems. What kind of wheels you looking to get?

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Haha. Thanks man for the courtesyparts, i used to work parts at a nissan dealer. So im all good getting anything oem. No jdm parts tho.

Wheels RIGHT NOW im thinking rpf1 17x9 et22 235/40 all around.
But who knows. That all can change later on.

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Damn Thats even better ha. Did you mean 12mm offset or really 22mm? I stay in Chicago, there is a guy selling 17x9 with 12mm offset enkei rpfs for 900 I believe on Craigslist...

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Btw: I have 17x9 +15mm offset wheels. Running 235/40r17 all around as well. PERFECT.

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Yea et22.

Rpf1 in 17x9 et 22,35,45
17x9.5 has et15/18 i dont remember exactly.

Good to hear fitment on those sizes. How low is your car?? Any fender requirements? I dont care to be "slammed". I just want fender to meet the tire.

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My is is LOW. I have a Type X kit, sides, bumper, and rear valances. The wheels I have MB Battles, you know the ones everybody has lol. They don't look right with a pulled q panel. I'm just accommodating fitment with camber and maybe a roll.


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