paranoidjack wrote:I admire the effort, but have to side with qship and think you could probably spend your time elsewhere for more bang for the buck. But props for the effort and best of luck; I'm sure that could get hairy quick.
People like the above poster inspire me to prove them wrong.
elwesso wrote:honestly i think that hacking up the harness to make a factory system retrofit in would probably screw things up far more than attempting to install an aftermarket one, IMO.
You can successfully install an aftermarket keyless setup with a good installer, just many times its not good.
Whats the difference if its a aftermarket or OEM alarm, the harness or parts of it need to get cut up right?
Well I am an OEM man and if that mean cutting into the main harness well I just can't do it. What if someday I decide to sell my car to some moron who will never appreciate it as much as me on the Barret Jackson auction? They will want a OEM original car intact. That is why all my modifications are not tied into any main harnesses and can be remove in the same time they were installed in.
qship96 wrote:Even if it all goes as planned you end up with a antiquated half-a** security system compared to whats available in today's aftermarket product line.....for a few hundred dollars a viper system will not only provide similar features to the factory system, but add motion sensors,glass break detection,1 mile paging to notify of attempted break-in,remote start,remote window/sunroof control and many other desirable features unavailable from the factory system
The factory system is BASIC at best.....it wont even go off if someone smashes a window to steal your stereo/radar detector/etc....or go off if someone hits the car or jacks it up to steal your wheels.....hardly worth anything in reality.
I always say that 1994-1996 Q45 guys take there cars for-granted, And if Brian was around I think he would say it would have been easier to buy a 1994. So if I have a OEM 16 year old (2009) keyless entry compared to a cheaply installed aftermarket alarm that is brand new I am happy. Yes I know you think Crappy installer??? Well I dare you to find me a GOOD installer because there are none around here that I trust.
And if they want to break my windows well what difference would a glass break sensor make? Now if you complained about the OEM horn I would agree with you. Because if you add a train horn to the Q as a anti-theft horn I am sure many will think twice before even LOOKING at the Q.
qship96 wrote:Thank You. No need to waste bandwidth on unsound projects!
The only bandwidth I am USING is a few kilobytes maybe Megabytes at most of NICO's and mine and of course the members who choose to view this topic. But if they choose to view it that's there problem not mine. But if you can't spare any bandwidth on your connection I suggest you move from dial-up and choose a broadband connection. Or just don't view this topic at all because I haven't heard anything from you that I already know from you.
So please do me a favor and think before you speak because clearly this isn't the case here. And its people like you that make NICO not worth being on, at least in my opinion.
Now what you all have been waiting for:
1992-1993 Q45's can have the OEM J30 alarm integrated in because of there door lock timer and its connections. The 1992-1993 Q45 have the same connections for the door lock timer as the 1993-1997 J30.
Pin #9 on the anti-theft module had me all tied up because that was what the OEM alarm disarm is. Now pin #9 is used already by the Q45 anti-theft module. I thought about making a harness and what not to swap the pins...But that's not needed. All that is needed is a cancel wire to the Multi-control unit from the OEM Q45 anti-theft module.
And the door lock timer is needed from a J30 as well because of the two extra pins for the lock and unlock from the remote.
And the absolute hardest part will be tapping into the ignition switch with out messing anything up and of course making it look factory. I saw a post by Robert Bowden (RobertsnewQ) about how difficult it was to do so I will obviously leave that to a professional.
But other than the above the hardest part so far was looking over the wiring diagrams multiple times (Actually since I started this topic till today I have looked at them) and getting different color wire preferably the same as stated in the service manual.
But like I said so far so good.
O yeah the service manual for the 1990-1993 Q45 maybe 1994-1996 Q45 looks like it was put together by some stupid minimum wage monkeys. And I say that after looking at the Anti-theft section alone multiple times. For one the colors are listed completly...I feell bad for newbie techs or anyone else given the service manual to diagnose a Q.
And the parts that are needed for this project:
Color coded wire preferably matching the service manual colors.
J30 door lock timer (Would be wise to re-solder it before installing to prevent and problems)
J30 Multi-control unit
Matching keyless entry remote
Girls? Modified by Paul Wall at 2:59 AM 10/24/2009Modified by Paul Wall at 3:50 PM 10/24/2009