Hoffman5982's Super Awesome Driveway Swap- Finally Running

[GrilledCheese33]

Honestly Hoff, all forums are like that man. Try being a member of at nasioc, its the worse "do a search newb" site ive ever seen in my life. But then again its still a good resource. I have read every page of your build thread, I just choose not to post in them too much. If I don't know why you have a problem i'm not gonna post misleading bs lol.

With that said, i'm glad you figured out the problem with your motor. Best of luck with the rest of the swap and enjoy Zilvia JK man, hope you hang around here, I have enjoyed your build!

[Hoffman5982]

I just noticed, pin 23(starter signal) is labled as orange/blue, but its actually orange/black. Sorry, I was really tired.

Small, crappy update:

The car started once today, ran for 10 seconds, and died. Since then, it just turns over but doesn't actually crank.

I check for spark, re-gapped the spark plugs to .44, checked fuel injectors and fuel lines, adjusted TPS from .97 volts back to .45, and checked all the grounds. Everything looked fine, but it still won't crank. I can let it sit for 30 seconds to a minute, and turn the key and it'll try to start but die instantly. I'm at a loss as to what is the cause. I pulled the harness out, went over all of it to make sure there wasn't anything wrong, and it was fine.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Just a thought...does your car have gas in the tank?

lol yea it had a quarter tank in it and I put a few gallons of fresh gas. Im pretty sire it was the timing. With the crank at TDC, the mating marks on the cams were almost at 6 o'clock. I worked on it til 3am last night, so hopefully I got it fixed

[badbob2121]

well i wish you luck on your swap, and i agree with your opinions on forrums in general, thats why i only use them as entertainment, and maybe get a useful tip here and there...

16 year old fan boys and "know it all" a**holes are the majority of members on most forrums, just take what you can get...

[Hoffman5982]

Still nothing you guys. I worked on it til 3am last night fixing the timing, reinstalled the CAS, and it still wont start. I pulled the MAF plug, nothing. Pulled the coolant temp sensor, nothing. Adjusted the IACV multiple times, nothing. Every once in a while it'll make a slight burping sound where the BOV goes( I pulled it off to spray carb cleaner in). What's going on with this thing??

[GrilledCheese33]

Damn dude after all that work still nothing? Hope you get it figured out soon...

[badbob2121]

Where do you live?

[Hoffman5982]

I live in Headland,AL.

I can only assume it's a wiring issue. I mean, I have everything else required to start right?

I guess Ill pull it out tonight and go over it once more

[GrilledCheese33]

So dumb question here but are your plugs firing? I was just thinking because in the past on dirtbikes and stuff i've had plugs fire outside the spark hole, yet it wont start. In some occasions a new plug would solve it. Sometimes they can be tricky. I'm sure you replaced them, but if not its a thought...

[Hijacker]

What's the fuel pressure running at?

[Hoffman5982]

I couldn't tell you. Ill have to get a hold of a fuel pressure gauge to find out. It should be at around 41 psi right?

[Hoffman5982]

Fuel Pressure is at 45 psi. So check that off the list of possibilities?

I just ordered new spark plugs 1: Because I meant to order them in the beginning and 2: just so that I can eliminate that as a possibility.

On a side note, I reinstalled the drive shaft today so that i could take the car off the jack stands, and I must have forgotten how low the car sits because I felt like I was next to a hot wheels car. That's what happens when you've been driving a toyota tundra for the past month and a half

[Hijacker]

Did you do any modifications to the coil pack harness or the ignitor plugs? The firing order could be off. I've also had a mistimed CAS cause the car to just stutter on cranking, but it would just sit there and pop back through the intake at you. The CAS was off by 180, so it would show as being in time with a timing light. I found out that I had managed to wire in my ignitor backwards (Pulsar ignitor), so it worked fine until I pulled the CAS for a timing chain job. Putting the CAS back in per the FSM resulted in it being 180 off. I repinned my ignitor shortly after that.

[Hoffman5982]

All I did with the harness was sleeve it. Ill pull it off and go over it because I have to resleeve it anyways. After tearing it apart the other night and fixing the timing, I pulled the CAS back out and reinstalled it the way its supposed to bed. I haven't messed with the ignitor wiring at all. How do I check that it's firing in the right order?

[Hoffman5982]

Haven't had time to mess with it, But did decide my winter plans:

Paint
Brake Job(rebuild)
Axxis Ultimate Brake Pads F&R
Brembo Drilled/Slotted rotors F/R
New Carpet
Sound deadening cabin
Finish the sound system(Kicker zx750.5 amp for 2 Kicker 8" CompVR's)
Repaint Valve Cover
J30 VLSD


I'm sure ill find a few other small things I want to change. Nothing major, Just want to make sure everything is top notch.
It's sad that I make these plans when I still haven't been able to get the car running

Working on boost controoler/turbo timer now,Hopefully Ill actually have an update next time

[GrilledCheese33]

Good winter plans, best of luck on getting the car running!

[Hoffman5982]

Ok let's go over what I've checked:
Spark-good
fuel pressure-good
fuel lines-good
timing-fixed
TPS-fixed
new spark plugs-no change
grounding-good

Im sure there's other stuff. What am I missing? My only other thoughts are the IACV or the ignitor.

My dad just came home and now wants me to take it to a mechanic. I really don't want to have to end this saying I swapped the motor, but failed at getting it to run, so I hand to hand it over to a mechanic

[badbob2121]

ugh well hopefully it comes along

im guessing you have a trusted mechanic

well if its what you have to do then its all good, whatever it takes to get it running

[Hoffman5982]

I think theres only one place around here that deals with imports. Should I go ahead and order an IACV and ignitor? I don't know how to test mine to see if its good or not.

Also, this might be a silly question, but Im wiring up the boost controller. One of the wires goes to the brake pedal. I saw someone say you can just use the orange illum. wire off the stereo. Is this true?

[Hoffman5982]

and the ecu throws up code 55. I know that means it needs the consult port, but is there a common problem that causes this code to pop up

[Hijacker]

55 means nothing is wrong.

[Hoffman5982]

Well I guess that means I read the wrong code list. But still, if nothing is wrong, why won't it start?? Makes no sense to me

[mrgreeneyes]

back on page 2 you mention an alternator "ground" wire. the alt grounds through the bracket/engine and sometimes has an OEM 12g wire going to the strut tower.

post pics of this. it has me wondering how you managed to catch it on fire.

and the hell with taking it to a shop. they will bend you OVER for that... and they will have NO info, cus we never were supposed to have that motor anyways...

[Hoffman5982]

back on page 2 you mention an alternator "ground" wire. the alt grounds through the bracket/engine and sometimes has an OEM 12g wire going to the strut tower.

post pics of this. it has me wondering how you managed to catch it on fire.

and the hell with taking it to a shop. they will bend you OVER for that... and they will have NO info, cus we never were supposed to have that motor anyways...

I had it temporarily ghetto rigged with some crappy wire. I have the 12g wire now and haven't had any more problems. It connects to the back of the alternator on a little bolt. Ill take a pic tomorrow for you. Could a grounding issue cause this? Should I add a few extra grounds just for safe measure?

That's exactly why I don't want to take it to a shop. Im afraid they'd end up messing it up because they don't know the engine or have any info in their system about it.

[GrilledCheese33]

Any update on the progress?

[Hoffman5982]

not really. I've just been preparing the car for the shop. I got the gauges wired up, just have to mount them. I started wiring the boost controller and turbo timer in. I obviously did somethign wrong because now when I pull the key it it stays in acc. mode, and the unit won't turn on. I just need to connect the wire to the parking brake and the two wires to the ignition. Im not happy about taking it to the shop. My dad is forcing me. Speaking of which, I was gone, and he thought my j30 vlsd was trash and put it out at the road and someone came by and picked it up. I was pissed, still am. So Ill be heading back to the junk yard soon to pick up ANOTHER one.

Hopefully the shop can figure it out sometime next week. I know it's most likely something really random, so Im preparing myself for that embarrassment.

On a side note, I've started saving for a paint job. Grilledcheese, how much did yours run you, if you dont mind me asking?

[Hoffman5982]

I snapped a a couple of pics today after I sprayed all the dirt off of the car. I've been working on running the hoses for the boost controller and boost gauge through the firewall. Now Im gonna work on the boost controller wiring, and then Ill pull the harness out to finish it up



The wiring mess inside

[Raz007]

Wow dude, that's a lot of wires! Sorry I can't offer you any input on what's wrong, never attempted anything like that. I'm sure your problem is something electrical, stuff like that is always tricky since you can't see electricity. Seems like if it was mechanical you defiantly have the skills to find and fix it. Good luck on that, I'm sure we'll see a video of that thing running soon!

[Hoffman5982]

thanks man. Those wires are from the gauges and boost controller/turbo timer. I just haven't sleeved them and tucked them away yet

[badbob2121]

It is really bothering me not knowing what the problem is... keep us updated

[GrilledCheese33]

Hoff I paid $600 for my paintjob. It was a hook-up though at the dealership my brother is the service manager at. They normally get 3K to paint a car like they did mine...

I really hate your having to take it to a shop man but if thats what it takes then thats just whats gotta happen. Is the shop your going to familiar with the sr20 at all?