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Anyone running the NISMO injectors with the Deatschwerks adapter kit? If so, how are they? pros and cons?


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i running 555 dw injector for aboult one year ,i have one injector problem but i contact with wd and send all 6 for them and them send back on same week good compane i recomend

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Hmm, alright, cause I need new injectors but I don't want to spend the extra $400 for the 300 Degree Fuel Rails. Any other opinions on the NISMO/DW injector kit?

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legion wrote:Hmm, alright, cause I need new injectors but I don't want to spend the extra $400 for the 300 Degree Fuel Rails. Any other opinions on the NISMO/DW injector kit?
ive heard nothin but good with dw except ive seen people say 1 injector usually fails sometimes when they get it (not to common though), but that dw is great on customer service plus you get a warranty on them something nismo doesnt give

i would just go with dw kit keep in mind you will have to grind the plenum some on the #1 injector so it fits properly thats for dw kit and 300 degree rail it must be done to clear eitherway, unless you get old style 550cc nismo injectors direct replacement no grinding

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Did they sig rules change with the new layout ?!?!?

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I've installed several sets of the DW adapters; no complaints what so ever. They continue to make changes to improve them as well; one example is that there is no longer the two little spacers that go under the injector cap which makes installation easier.

Nice cost effective way to upgrade to the newer style injectors. The 300 degree rails will offer superior flow so it depends on the goals of the build and the budget.

Tim

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NissanFairladyZ32 wrote:Did they sig rules change with the new layout ?!?!?

Cause zxautogiro's sig is bigger then my mom
what ?

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zxautogiro wrote:
what ?
Sig limit is 600 x 200

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Just so we're all on the same page here...we're all talking about these right? http://www.z1motorsports.com/p...}1191

Just want to make sure that these are good and won't have any problems and won't have to make any modifications to make them fit.

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legion wrote:Just so we're all on the same page here...we're all talking about these right? http://www.z1motorsports.com/p...}1191

Just want to make sure that these are good and won't have any problems and won't have to make any modifications to make them fit.
Correct, that is the DW adapter kit referenced throughout this post. As Z32TT stated above, you will need to grind the upper plenum on cylinder #1 for the additional clearance required for the new style injectors. The angle of the top of the new style injector is different and the connector will not go on without grinding. This is the case with any application that converts to the new style injectors with the early style upper plenum.

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Sounds good. I'm hoping the plenum doesn't require too much grinding? I'm sure it can't be too much otherwise you'd grind through the wall of the plenum. I appreciate your help Tim, I hope to get these injectors soon, and have my Z back up in running in the next few months!

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ok is it better now

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legion wrote:Sounds good. I'm hoping the plenum doesn't require too much grinding? I'm sure it can't be too much otherwise you'd grind through the wall of the plenum. I appreciate your help Tim, I hope to get these injectors soon, and have my Z back up in running in the next few months!
It's not the actual wall of the plenum runner, it's the brace for the mount of the throttle linkage. This should help:

Prior to grinding:



After grind: (it is minimal)



Pics courtesy of Guapo on TT.net and hosted by Bernie.

Hope this helps,Tim

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Awesome! Thank you, good sir. Those pics definitely make things more clear to me and it doesn't seem too hard! I'm guessing I'll need a dremel? Thanks for all your help.

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This goes for the 94+ injectors with the 300 degree rail too on earlier gen motors. had to grind the frontmost plenum brace to get the clip on the injector.

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Don't know if anyone saw this but seams like a cool (less expensive) new alternative:http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/...boscho ... sa....html



"The kit comes complete:1 – MATTZ Garage Top Feed Fuel Rail1 – Hold down Bracket6 – EV14 injectors (your choice of flow rate)6 – Lower plenum adapter (specify plenum model)6 – Stock insulators6 – Injector connectors

*Please specify which injector size you need27 lb = 283cc/min (NA application)33 lb = 345 cc/min (NA application)52 lb = 545 cc/min (TT application)72 lb = 755 cc/min (TT application)83 lb = 870 cc/min (TT application)95 lb = 1000 cc/min (TT application) additional $80"

That is aparently around $875 (shipping included)...

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wow I havnt seen the "WIN Factory" kit. I'm curious about this one. Good price

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i would love some more info on thie winfactory kit as well... comparison to 300degree ETC.. someone post some more info on it

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I guess it is too new to have some real data... On other forums I saw people asking for spray patterns and the likes... But other than the sellers, I guess there isn't much experience on this yet... But given the price, I would say it won't take long for the first impressions to come out!


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Hmm, that WINFactory stuff seems interesting. Definitely cheaper than the NISMO/DW kit but the question is are they as good of quality? Very interesting fuel rail setup though.

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Matt & kip designed them so quality is deff in mind this is by far the coolest thing out right now makes injector replacement take only about 5min and if injectors fail it makes it super cheap to replace one also can run higher then 850cc injectors which is what we were kind of limited to, also ethanol decay on inject's should not be an issue with this set up anymore etc etc def worth the money couple guys are using these for their 1000hp builds well see how it does for them

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hav you dyno your car with t25 28 ? #?

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Very interesting. That price would save at least $100, I just wish there was more personal experience from people to vouch for these things, then I would definitely do it. I guess I'll have to sleep on it.

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zxautogiro wrote:hav you dyno your car with t25 28 ? #?
no i havent yet i would like to find out my numbers soon though, could of couple months ago if some didnt bail out so two runs would be cheaper oh well next time
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legion wrote:Very interesting. That price would save at least $100, I just wish there was more personal experience from people to vouch for these things, then I would definitely do it. I guess I'll have to sleep on it.
sleeping on it is something you should do just wait a lil longer to get better personal expirience as this top feed kit will be the best thing to do if all turns out well and i have a feeling it will do good considering the guys who made it

also what matt said is the 875 shipped is only goin to last thru dec , it will be 975 shipped in the future but even then 975 is still an awesome deal considering it gets rid of all the cons and will play out cheaper in long run
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To me, just the fact of using standard bosh injectors that you can find easilly in most aplications today (therefore, cheaper) makes it worth it...

Other than that, what z32tt sayed.... Wait a little longer if you can... It won't take long to have feedback on this...


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