WIIL A RB26DET FIT IN A 97 HARDBODY

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97HARDBODY
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K now there are so many postes about will a RB26DET fit in a 97 HARDBODY and no one ever has a straight forward answer the 240sx S13 has a KA24DET in it the smallest 240sx and a RB26DET will fit in sooooo will it fit in a 97 HARDBODY if i have to make custom motor mounts that is not a problem at all and no I WILL NOT GO WITH THE SR20DETT it aint woth my reasons are after you turbo and upgrade every part in a SR20DETT and a KA24DET the KA still comes out on top but what would i be looking at to put a RB26DET in the 97 HARDBODY money and custom work for it is not an issue
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97HARDBODY
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or will a RB25DET fit in it either motors are fine

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what?

97HARDBODY
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the RB25DET OR RB26DETT out of a skyline the KA24E is a inline four 2.4L motor the RB25DET is a inline six 2.5L will it fit in a 97 hardbody

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The engine bay in the HB is about 30 inches long to the radiator. Last week I came across a pic of an rb20det in an s10. I'm guessing all RB blocks have the same dimensions on the outside. It DID fit. The radiator support was cut and the radiator moved forward, somehow. All I know is that it fit in that s10. Its almost like an HB. I think you could fit it with some fabrication. Oh yeah, the IC was still in front of the radiator, too. Google "s10 with rb20det" and maybe you can find the pics. I forgot the exact name of the site.

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thanx i fiqured since the motor the ka is blowen i would dump a motor with some balls you cant tell me it would be funny to pull up next to a hardbody in a sports car and rev up your motor then the hardbody revs up and you can hear that blow off valve lol then waste the sports car in a race it will be great lol:)

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Yeah, it would be a great way to get your license taken away. I would like to see a video if you ever do put that engine in. To be honest, it sounds like a pipe dream at this point. When the novelty wears off would it still be practical? Possibly, if you don't just cobble everything.

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i know all the cops here they dont car we have the slide assassin drifters here in the 240sx's they cops really dont care just cant around schools and stuff they paved a road just for us to f**k around on its pretty tight

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anyone else have any ideas or anything of the RB25DET fitting in a 97 HARBDODY

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It'd be alot like a 240 swap I'd assume.

Beat the hell out of your trans tunnel or cut it out and weld a new tunnel.Make mountsWire it up and get a custom driveshaft.

If you want an AWD RB26, you are on your own.

The fact that the RB fits a 240sx is promising except i think for trucks having rear sump oil pans, so a custom oil pan might also need to be fabbed.

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breadbox wrote:It'd be alot like a 240 swap I'd assume.

The fact that the RB fits a 240sx is promising except i think for trucks having rear sump oil pans, so a custom oil pan might also need to be fabbed.
This is just a random thought so NO ONE should take this thought as "reliable advice". But, I've been looking into putting my RB20det into my Hardbody.

I noticed the other day that it "appears" that the motormounts on a hardbody KA seem to be mounted on a part of the frame that is declining toward the back........If that is tilting the motor towards the back, is that why the hardbody KA needed the rear sump oil pan?? and ONLY if that is true, does a RB oil pan need any modification for ANY other reason if the custom mounts hold the RB level????

I have of course heard that the motormounts have to be moved forward about 6-7 inches, so if there is no clearance issue, why not weld the mounts level??

Remember, I'm just babbling and of course haven't tried this swap yet, so DO NOT RELY ON MY INPUT....just thinking out loud...

--TJ

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anyone else know anything about it let me know thanx

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lol that was a bad *** video lol

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Will an RB26DET fit in a Hardbody? In a word...YES....Now I have seen people stuff a VG30DET and VG30DETT in a 510 so a conversion with the RB can be done.

The engine bay of the D21 hardbody is very close dimensionally to the 200SX. The D21 has the added benfit of having a deeper engine bay than the 200SX but if you have a 4x4 model that space is gobbled up by the front differential. The biggest obstacle the D21 has is the front suspension and narrow frame width. Unlike the car which has a bit more clearance for the exhaust and turbo(s). The D21's inner fender wells and front suspension take a fair amount of real estate and that narrows the engine bay a lot.

Electrical can be converted to read the RB26's vitals but the fuel system may need to be upgraded because I highly doubt the D21's fuel pump in the tank can supply enough volume to give adequate flow to a power house like the RB26.

There have been successful conversions where a KA24DET and a VG30DET have been installed in 4x4 D21's. The KA had minimal mods done to make it fit and now that particular truck sports a Isuzu V6. The VG30 conversion had custom headers and the rad support had to be modified. Unfortunately the VG30DET conversion was done in France about 10 years ago and the truck and its info have been wiped form the net. IF someone manages to find it again the truck was an early 90's, D21 extra cab and it was red.

Some of the other things you will have to aware of is drveshaft length. The RB will not bolt up the HB transmission so a drive shaft will have to be fabricated. If you use the D21 and RB26's drivehaft a good shop can marry the 2 parts together to give you a hybrid shaft. Shifting linkage probably won't line up to the hole and some minor tunnel mods may be needed. If memory serves me the RB's transmission is a bit shorter than the D21's but a call to the dealer would confirm that. If your donor stuff and the D21 are both standard transmission's then that part of the swap is easy.

To be perfectly honest with you, I can find no information on someone documenting an RB26DET or DETT conversion in a Nissan truck. but I know its been done to the 510 platform and I stand by what I said based on that. Yes an RB26DET will fit in a D21.

As for the physical dimensions of the RB26DET it is 30.5" long about 28" tall and 26" wide.

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Does that tunnelwork have to be done if the motormounts are moved forward 6-7 inches (as I have heard) or is that in addition to relocating the motormounts??

--TJ

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thanx a bunch that helped alot ill take your word on it big-bird you seem to know what your talking about thanx

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Tunnel work should be minimal. Things like making the shift linkage opening bigger and maybe modifying the tin baffle plate are about all that should occur.

Keep in mind that the RB26's transmission is only a little bit shorter (less than 1 inch difference) than the one normally found in a D21. The motor mounts for the RB will move forward only because the center of gravity is different from a VG30/VG33/and the 4 banger engines. The position of the RB26 engine will be determined by the transmission's optimal location inside the tunnel. Too far back and the engines valve cover will hit the firewall. Too far forward and you need a longer drive shaft which sucks on a D21 especially if it has a 2 peice shaft already. Being too far foward will make the truck nose dive in the turns and on hard stops. The D21 does have an optional torsion bar from the dealer that is 2 millimeters thicker and it can handle much more weight. Keep that in mind when doing this conversion. Also that main T-Bar cross member sits right under the transmission on the D21 platform. Can you say clearance? Better check!

Exhaust system: Well since the D21's gas tank is on the passenger side already you have one less hassle because the RB's exhaust manifold is on the driver's side. Though if you tried to mount this particular RB26DETT you would be hard pressed for space. Hmmm Turbos or steering shaft....

Shift linkage.....I got nothing on that dude. All I can say is this a nissan to nissan swap and that will make it easier in every way. Just don't ask me about how to drop a 350 chevy into your Nissan or I'll have to ban ya!

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How is it going on this swap? Hopefully I will be starting my RB20 swap soon, so please keep us updated on any mods or difficulties in the conversion.

I now have 2 hardbodies and my RB'd 240 in the backyard and it is time to play "musical motors" after I rebuild the motor from my latest hardbody.

--TJ


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