flohtingPoint wrote:all that really matters is the following:
-Does it go like hell
-Does it NOT break every year/month/day
-Does it make awesome noises
-Does it make you smile
So, Nissan, about that VR38 in the mini-Z...
flohtingPoint wrote:all that really matters is the following:
-Does it go like hell
-Does it NOT break every year/month/day
-Does it make awesome noises
-Does it make you smile
Well said, but regretfully, we're talking about a Ghosn run Nissan here, who has some priorities above those including:flohtingPoint wrote:all that really matters is the following:
-Does it go like hell
-Does it NOT break every year/month/day
-Does it make awesome noises
-Does it make you smile
Spank ya, spank ya ver' much.Jesda wrote:Why I post on this forum:
The superb staff
The brilliant members
The outstanding meets and events
Pistonheads? Or Subaru and Toyota? And everyone else. Especially Nissan.krash wrote:"pistonheads" is like 10 years late
Dude. I gotta get me one of those!krash wrote:the article was all "woaaa theres this car that I bet you haven't heard of called a 200sx!"
Oh yes, he's doing this. 50-year-old man and Nissan executive vice president Andy Palmer is bringing the hurt. Let's hope he's got an industrial strength flamesuit, because this is going to be intense.
When asked about the rear-drive sports car market, Mr. Palmer rhetorically asked,
"Do we have any competitors?"
But he's well aware of the latest offering from Toyota and Subaru, winning the hearts of automotive journalists and consumers alike.
"...the Subaru [BRZ]? It was a car designed for a 50-year-old. It’s for a midlife crisis. That’s not what we do.”
Damnnn. He continued,
"You’ll see the answer to the midlife crisis. Except it won’t be for the midlife crisis.”
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Greg sugar-coated his response. I don't have to.frapjap wrote:Entertaining update from Palmer at Nissan:
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/nissan ... 1453017133
Oh yes, he's doing this. 50-year-old man and Nissan executive vice president Andy Palmer is bringing the hurt. Let's hope he's got an industrial strength flamesuit, because this is going to be intense.
When asked about the rear-drive sports car market, Mr. Palmer rhetorically asked,
"Do we have any competitors?"
But he's well aware of the latest offering from Toyota and Subaru, winning the hearts of automotive journalists and consumers alike.
"...the Subaru [BRZ]? It was a car designed for a 50-year-old. It’s for a midlife crisis. That’s not what we do.”
Damnnn. He continued,
"You’ll see the answer to the midlife crisis. Except it won’t be for the midlife crisis.”
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From the comments section:
From the 2013 Maritz New Vehicle Customer Study (one of the industry's top syndicated studies):
BRZ average buyer age: 41
350z average buyer age: 55
Share of BRZ buyers under 35: 41%
Share of 370Z buyers under 35: 13%
Share of BRZ buyers 50 or over: 33%
Share of 370Z buyers 50 or over: 62%
Share of BRZ drivers divorced, widowed or separated: 9%
Share of 370Z drivers divorced, widowed or separated: 24%
This. It's been proven time and time again that RECREATIONAL vehicle purchases go essentially unaffected by economic and job-market conditions. People who want "second" or "fun" cars are not the kind of people who are shopping for the bare minimum they can afford in tough times. Do not confuse "affordable" with "economical." Building affordable options just means you understand the target (in terms of both product AND audience) better than most. Yarises are affordable, but that's not why people buy them. They buy them because they're economical. If those buyers merely wanted an "affordable" car, they'd buy 20 year old Camries and Accords and never look back.XenonSE-R wrote:2) You're selling a sports car in a s*** economy and a s*** job market. It is far more likely that people looking for toy cars that can actually buy said toy cars are established in their careers and not hunting for jobs out of college, and guess what? That typically doesn't happen until after age 35.
WOW! This x 1,000,000!!!! Everything I would have said. Is he out of touch with reality?MinisterofDOOM wrote:This. It's been proven time and time again that RECREATIONAL vehicle purchases go essentially unaffected by economic and job-market conditions. People who want "second" or "fun" cars are not the kind of people who are shopping for the bare minimum they can afford in tough times. Do not confuse "affordable" with "economical." Building affordable options just means you understand the target (in terms of both product AND audience) better than most. Yarises are affordable, but that's not why people buy them. They buy them because they're economical. If those buyers merely wanted an "affordable" car, they'd buy 20 year old Camries and Accords and never look back.XenonSE-R wrote:2) You're selling a sports car in a s*** economy and a s*** job market. It is far more likely that people looking for toy cars that can actually buy said toy cars are established in their careers and not hunting for jobs out of college, and guess what? That typically doesn't happen until after age 35.
"Affordable" sports cars are not made affordable so they're within reach of jobless youth. They're made affordable so people will say "yes, that's an appealing toy." Absolutely, broadening the marketability of a car through price is huge. But that's not the same as being economical. You don't build a "sports car" with the intent of selling to 18 year olds who can barely afford it. You build a sports car with the intent of selling it to people who already own a family sedan and already have a car payment and already have financial stability, and would very much like to be able to justify buying a TOY. SPORTS CARS ARE TOYS. You CANNOT analyze the market for them in the same terms as normal cars. If you're trying to do that, it's a sign that you have zero understanding of the auto market and need a new job.
MinisterofDOOM wrote:SPORTS CARS ARE TOYS. You CANNOT analyze the market for them in the same terms as normal cars. If you're trying to do that, it's a sign that you have zero understanding of the auto market and need a new job.
...said the rep for the company that built the Altima, the Maxima, the Murano, the Cross Cabriolet, the Juke, the Cube, and THE FREAKING PATHFINDER with a continuously variable transmission.It was a car designed for a 50-year-old. It’s for a midlife crisis. That’s not what we do.”
AZhitman wrote:BTW, last I checked, Mazda is still selling Miatas. Over a million of them. Just throwing that out there.