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Which set up do you think has more potential for some good power:

1)S15 91F00 turbo Z32 Air Flow Meter with after market intake ssautochrome Exhaust System ssautochrome FMIC Profec e01 boost controller

2)GT2835 turbo z32 Fuel pump 660cc Injectors HKS F-con ECU Computer ssautochrome Exhaust System ssautochrome FMIC Profec e01 boost controller

want to boost 15psi.


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burnout 180 wrote:Which set up do you think has more potential for some good power:

1)S15 91F00 turbo Z32 Air Flow Meter with after market intake ssautochrome Exhaust System ssautochrome FMIC Profec e01 boost controller

2)GT2835 turbo z32 Fuel pump 660cc Injectors HKS F-con ECU Computer ssautochrome Exhaust System ssautochrome FMIC Profec e01 boost controller

want to boost 15psi.
Forget about the F-con or any other piggyback for 660cc injectors. ROM tune or standalone for that size. Profec e-01 blows. Get a profec type-s or a manual boost controller. GT2835 is essentially a GT25/40R which is good for 375+ whp. Very laggy, with a killer top-end. The 2835 will obviously make more power than the S15 T28 which only musters about 300whp in comparison.

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I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Damn, that turbo will be wasted on stock cams.

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rico05 wrote:Damn, that turbo will be wasted on stock cams.
You mean the GT2835?

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burnout 180 wrote:You mean the GT2835?
Yes.

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what is a good site to look into buying a turbo from?the last turbo I ordered off of the internet was junk.

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ebay. find something like a used gt2530 for 800 or so bucks. you cant go too wrong if you get it from someone reliable.

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r34 gtr wrote:ebay. find something like a used gt2530 for 800 or so bucks. you cant go too wrong if you get it from someone reliable.

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I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you...

The GT2530 that HKS sells, is rated at around 320ps (or whatever wacky unit they measure with). For $700 and some change, you can get a BRAND NEW GT28R (aka S15 turbo) which is rated at 310hp. Spending $800 on a used turbo (particularly ball-bearing that can NOT be rebuilt) just doesn't sit well with me.

My unbiased and personal opinion, is to go with the GT28R for now and if that doesn't suit your needs, or you feel like you want a little more power (at the expense of lag of course), then step up to the GT2871R.

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I was looking around on ebay and was unsure of how to know wether a turbo is right for my car because i have a t70 kit on my car from ssautochrome and i posted here about it before and boost boy said that the turbo was the wrong aplication for the CA. Since I heard this I never put the T70 on I sold it. The turbo was a T70 .50 .70 VBAND STAGE IV V-BAND CLAMP

So how do i determine if a turbo is the right or wrong application for the CA?

I was thinking of going with a t3/t4 turbo because their are plenty on ebay and at goodprices also. I was looking at this one but what tells me wether it is the right application?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1


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burnout 180 wrote:I was looking around on ebay and was unsure of how to know wether a turbo is right for my car because i have a t70 kit on my car from ssautochrome and i posted here about it before and boost boy said that the turbo was the wrong aplication for the CA. Since I heard this I never put the T70 on I sold it. The turbo was a T70 .50 .70 VBAND STAGE IV V-BAND CLAMP

So how do i determine if a turbo is the right or wrong application for the CA?

I was thinking of going with a t3/t4 turbo because their are plenty on ebay and at goodprices also. I was looking at this one but what tells me wether it is the right application?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1
Well, if you want to go the T3/T4 route, go with a T3/T04E 50-trim with a 0.48 turbine housing or at most, a 0.63 A/R. The 54 and 57-trim wheels have pretty crappy efficiency. Their compressor maps look sideways. The 50-trim has very large effieciency islands that cover a broad range of boost levels.

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I didnt think (or I should say I hoped) that the spool time for a GT2871R wouldnt be that bad on a CA. Spoke to a mechanic I hang around a lot the other the day and he praises the turbo, although that was on a mildly modified SR. So if I had to ask a question I guess it would be is there anyone here that has a GT series turbo on there CA, and about how long it takes to spool or even just how much you like it. Yea I guess thats it...oh yeah and sorry if I jacked any1's thread.

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Rookieca18det wrote:I didnt think (or I should say I hoped) that the spool time for a GT2871R wouldnt be that bad on a CA. Spoke to a mechanic I hang around a lot the other the day and he praises the turbo, although that was on a mildly modified SR. So if I had to ask a question I guess it would be is there anyone here that has a GT series turbo on there CA, and about how long it takes to spool or even just how much you like it. Yea I guess thats it...oh yeah and sorry if I jacked any1's thread.
Just to make sure its clear, ball-bearing turbos have no effect on spool when below the threshold. They only shine when it comes to transient response. The GT2871R with the .64 housing hits full boost around 4200 rpms and the .86 hits around 4600, on an SR20.

Here's a dyno of an SR with the .86 A/R housing on the GT2871R--

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Sooo...any1 using a gt turbo and how do they like it.

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well there are plenty of people using the GT28R on here, but that is essentially an S14/S15 turbo.

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what about the gt28rs our (disco potato).how does it compare to the 2871?

im looking at getting onbe of this turbosgt2871rgt28rsgt2540rim wanting between 300 -350 at the wheels.right now im running th t25 from a sr with the .80 it spools full at 4000.

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capwred wrote:what about the gt28rs our (disco potato).how does it compare to the 2871?

im looking at getting onbe of this turbosgt2871rgt28rsgt2540rim wanting between 300 -350 at the wheels.right now im running th t25 from a sr with the .80 it spools full at 4000.
For the price of the GT28RS, you may as well get the 2871R. Both have the exact same turbine wheels and housings, but the 2871R has a larger, more efficient compressor wheel. The GT28RS compressor wheel is 60mm and is rated at 35 lbs/min or 350hp and the GT2871R is a 71mm wheel and is rated at 41 lbs/min or roughly 400HP. Remember, these ratings are CRANK hp. So subtract about 15% to compensate for driveline loss.

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Well thanks for all the info c-rad, and capwred if u do decide to get the gt2871 let me know how much u like it. Meanwhile I'll be trying to justify spending almost 1k on a turbo if I do decide to buy it.

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Rookieca18det wrote:Well thanks for all the info c-rad, and capwred if u do decide to get the gt2871 let me know how much u like it. Meanwhile I'll be trying to justify spending almost 1k on a turbo if I do decide to buy it.
No need to spend that kinda bread to go fast "road pup". I told you, when you're ready to get a wicked increase in power, come see me. the turbo I'm using on my woman's sentra is whining at idle and see's full boost by 4000ish rpm which is phenomenal for the size turbo I'm using. When I'm done breaking in this engine, I'll call you out and invite you to my welcome back dyno session . But in the mean time, the car is down awaiting a newly ported and polished head with double racing valve springs. Don't forget that on 12/11/05, the last major event of the season will be at Moroso and I defintely will be there. Been quiet this whole race season, so now it's time to bring it.........

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boost_boy wrote:No need to spend that kinda bread to go fast "road pup". I told you, when you're ready to get a wicked increase in power, come see me. the turbo I'm using on my woman's sentra is whining at idle and see's full boost by 4000ish rpm which is phenomenal for the size turbo I'm using.

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Care to go into detail on that? What center section, wheels and housings are you using?

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I really have problems when it comes to making a decision on which one of these turbos i should buy so can someone please give me there opinion of which one i should get:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

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Aight I gotcha, Im in no rush right now but I will get at you about that turbo In a couple of weeks or so. Maybe some cams as well. And definetly get at me when your going to take the car to the dyno, for now Im gonna keep her simple and get this clutch sorted out.

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burnout 180 wrote:I really have problems when it comes to making a decision on which one of these turbos i should buy so can someone please give me there opinion of which one i should get:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

Nice. Get it from ATP turbo tho http://www.atpturbo.com with an OEM style compressor housing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

Made in China, will last 1000 miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

6 bolt flange on the turbo elbow??...no thanks. Ceramic wheel will disintegrate when pushed above OEM ratings for too long.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

Made in China, will last 1000 miles.
Dont think ebay is the end-all-one-stop-shop for turbos......theres a lot of bullsh!t out there.

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I am running the GT28RS with the .86 hotside. I wish i had gotten the 71r because the RS isnt flowing quite enough air for me. It didnt come out till after i had already gotten my RS. But the transient responce is absolutly amazing. I once raced a friend in his turbo SiR civic from a second gear roll, He was on your standard T3T4( not sure of the specs) and running less than 10PSI. Power wise he was only slightly lower than me. Once we got on it i instantly hit my full boost at 18 psi and jumped ahead of him while he waited for shaft to overcome the friction in the journal bearings.

I am a big fan of ball bearings and seeing the advances recently in these turbos is exciting. Not only the CHRA, but the advances in wheel design. If we continue to put our money in the technology the prices will only continue to drop down.

The 28RS will barely get you to 300 whp with it only flowing 35lbs/min.

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thanks for the imput on the rs turbo nismoplsr.i do believe i will go with the 71.with the .64.i still doing research on it.i dont think you can do enough of that.

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I saw a site selling pretuned ecu's for the sr and it would be perfect for me if they had the same for the ca18det since far as i know their are no companys in bahamas tune ecu's.

So is their any place i can get pre tuned ecu's for the ca18det.

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ebay, they have had a couple of ecu's come up pre tuned for the exact applications you were describing above. As far as getting a pre tuned ecu in general, i am also interested in knowing if/where this can be done

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I thought I saw a thread with a couple of members saying that they were doing their own ecu tuning. Maybe you could persuade one of them to socket your ecu and put a tuned chip in there. Well good luck


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