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I have already decided that I want to dress up the sides of the truck a little bit. This is what a graphics company and myself came up with. It will be a little bit darker, matching the Nissan logo on the tailgate, than what is shown here. This is just a proof, the truck hasn't been touched yet. I loved the way this designed looked on the old Z-cars so I thought 'why not on a d21?'. Anyway here's the proof.



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It'd be great if there wasn't so many people doing it on Mustangs.

An idea I've been floating around was a modified version of the HEMI Billboards that were on 'cudas and Challengers or maybe even the AAR Stripe with NISMO and a Japanese flag in the shield.

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Do it.

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looks cool

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Now a question...does $151 sound high? I had a bunch of vinyl cut back in 97 and it was cheap...is $151 the new cheap for this setup?

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Depends on the decal material. The cheap stuff that my dad has is $7-15/ft. $10-30/ft for the better stuff and higher for specialty.

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Well the place makes some pretty awesome stuff. They letter trucks and emergency equipment all day everyday.

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Look around but sounds about right for large peice for both sides, reminds me of the SE V6 logo on the hardbodies, I like it

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$151 installed isn't unreasonable.


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My two cents worth...I'm not a fan. I like the cleaner more subdued look.

$151 doesn't sound like a bad price tho.


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Desert Rat wrote:My two cents worth...I'm not a fan. I like the cleaner more subdued look.

$151 doesn't sound like a bad price tho.
I have to respect your opinion because it made me think it over again. I should do things in order. There are a bunch of cool mods I could do for the same price. I'd rather have a performing truck anyhow.

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Reverend D wrote:
I have to respect your opinion because it made me think it over again. I should do things in order. There are a bunch of cool mods I could do for the same price. I'd rather have a performing truck anyhow.
Wait what performance mods are there out there for these things..ive looked everywhere

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You are looking in the wrong places. Most mods for these trucks don't come from catalogs. Two things that come to mind in that price range give or take a little... 1) Get a used cam re-ground to give the engine some more pep. Or 2) Rear suspension upgrades including putting it towards a rear sway bar kit. Stuff like that.

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Reverend D wrote:You are looking in the wrong places. Most mods for these trucks don't come from catalogs. Two things that come to mind in that price range give or take a little... 1) Get a used cam re-ground to give the engine some more pep. Or 2) Rear suspension upgrades including putting it towards a rear sway bar kit. Stuff like that.
Or make stuff, like I'm doing. From the Megasquirt to the piece together a part at a time turbo kit, to a coil sprung (in planning) rear end, you have to sometimes think outside of the catalog and do it yourself.

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Well i was already planning to stiffen the rear end up a bit and make a sway bar for the front what shocks would you recommend for someone who has a tight wallet and little fundage?

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You have a 4 or 6 cylinder?

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Mines a 4.

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Reverend D wrote:Mines a 4.
Well, I was asking kib, but I still say sticking with the old drag racer's trick, but in the opposite direction. On our 4 cylinders, installing 6 cylinder shocks and sway-bars are a great budget way to stiffen the front end.

Want adjustability in the shocks, but don't want to blow a fortune, check out your local short track shop! I found some Pro Shocks SS Series 3 position shocks at Stock Car Products in Richmond, VA. At only $75 a shock, this is a great option to get started on an adjustable suspension. http://www.stockcarproducts.com/pshocks5.htm

Want more steering angle? I'm going to experiment with using a 4WD center link. My theory is that it will create more angle just like adding spacers on a rack-and-pinion setup.

One other thing, we have a slight advantage on front end adjustability, because we have torsion bars not only can we adjust height right out of the box, but pre-load as well! We don't need to buy a $1-2,000 suspension setup to gain the advantage a 240SX guy has to. Don't knock the torsion bars yet!

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Drift21_Hardslider wrote:You have a 4 or 6 cylinder?
i have the 4 cylinder with NO ps which really sucks on complete stops...and im having springs from a pathfinder removed from a local pick and pull to see if they will fit and theres a nissan guy down the road that has at least 4 junker hardbodys with ps still on them so im gonna try to snag one

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If you're talking about the front torsion bars and you have a 2WD, it won't work. The rear hanger for the torsion bar is further back and different.

If you're looking to stiffen the rear, you probably shouldn't. What you really want is to is stiffen the front, as you want to allow for some roll and give in the rear for better traction.

Coils, only if you rear half the Pathfinder (if it is a coil sprung version) or go custom (my route), other wise... no.

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Drift21_Hardslider wrote:
Well, I was asking kib, but I still say sticking with the old drag racer's trick, but in the opposite direction. On our 4 cylinders, installing 6 cylinder shocks and sway-bars are a great budget way to stiffen the front end.

Want adjustability in the shocks, but don't want to blow a fortune, check out your local short track shop! I found some Pro Shocks SS Series 3 position shocks at Stock Car Products in Richmond, VA. At only $75 a shock, this is a great option to get started on an adjustable suspension. http://www.stockcarproducts.com/pshocks5.htm

Want more steering angle? I'm going to experiment with using a 4WD center link. My theory is that it will create more angle just like adding spacers on a rack-and-pinion setup.

One other thing, we have a slight advantage on front end adjustability, because we have torsion bars not only can we adjust height right out of the box, but pre-load as well! We don't need to buy a $1-2,000 suspension setup to gain the advantage a 240SX guy has to. Don't knock the torsion bars yet!
only one comment here....4x4 centerlinks are junk. they'll create more steering slop with that dogbone design.

good stiff gas shocks will help a lot with the handling, as will polyurethane sway bar mounts.

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Desert Rat wrote:
only one comment here....4x4 centerlinks are junk. they'll create more steering slop with that dogbone design.
What would you recommend in it's place besides going to rack and pinion? Maybe a Toyota 4WD center link? I would love to make a custom one, but I haven't found the place all these drift guys are getting their ball sockets from.


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