vq35de in a 240sx?

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SpecDRacing
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Hey guys.....

Just thought I'd drop in on this thread and let you all know the S13/VQ35 swap I did is driving. I have a video of its first drive on another thread "VQ35DE in S13 in progress....". Its a short clip, but its proof the stock ECM can be used.

Hope you guys enjoy!


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blackieblack
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im glad i found this thread. it answered alot of questions. but i was wondering if anyone has turboed their VQ's. or planes on it. i assume that a twin setup is out and maybe not even necesary. but am interested in doing this seriousely in the next year and kinda want to get an idea of what to do as far as boosting it.

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Tons. But do you mean turboed in a Maxima/Pathfinder/G35/350Z/Altima, or do you mean tubroed a swapped' 240?

If you are inclined enough to swap a VQ35DE into a S13 or S14, turbocharging it should be child's play for you...

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blackieblack
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nope in a 240. thanks.

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ok... i was just driving today, reminicing about the modified mag of may 2007, and i thought to myself, why am i doing the sr20det when everyone has already done it? so i began the think up the idea of putting a vq35de into my s13 240sx, supercharging it, and running it on an autronic stand alone.

so i jump on the forum only to discover the VQ swap has been done by a few people.

to the guys that have already done the swap, how much work is involved?-did you need custom engine mounts?-custom drive shaft?-how did you get the exhaust manifold to clear the steering shaft?-did the transmission fit into the car or did you have to hammer it out or something?-any other custom work?

i would love any information from someone with experiance in this area, as i am quite serious about doing this is the near future.

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blackieblack
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check VQswap.com. they have a kit. i have not done it yet but intend to and will go thid route as i have no means of fab work. and check engine swap forums to alk to people who have done it. its in the nisan swap section.

rbfastback
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thats a fantasy of mine a 240 with a vq35.... i wish

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vigonrf
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I have seen the vqswap kit, so it is doable. my question is: is the motor mounts in the infiniti FX the same for the 3.5 and 4.5? if it is then it could be possible to put the 4.5l v8 into a 240sx using this kit. would this be practical as the fx45 only comes in AWD? I know http://www.full-race.com/r14/ does an AWD conversion for the rb26dett into the 240sx, i know you couldnt do it with the same kit but you may be able to use the m/t from a 350z for the fx45 engine, if it has the same bolt pattern as the vq35.

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deuceforty
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hey guys, im doing the vq35de swap in the spring, and was curious as to the best way to go about it...

HOPEFULLY im gonna pick up a nice engine and tranny and the kit from vqswap.com, what all pieces of the kit from vqswap do i ABSOLUTELY have to have to run?? i HOPE to boost it late summer/early fall, so i was curious if anyone had any fitment issues with the turbo in an s14 chassis?

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How much did
fredb wrote:
Thanks for the compliments, I'm making progress but slowly! I'll keep everyone updated at my site:

http://www.engineswaptech.com

Fred

Modified by fredb at 8:25 AM 6/28/2006
How much did it take for you to do that complete mang ?

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iMurphy
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Lets get some more info on here guys! Im still tryin to do all my research before I get anything started so PLEASE keep it coming. I want to know EVERYTHING about this swap but one big question I have is has anyone heard or seen anything about this swap ina a RHD? I have some idea what would have to be changed but whats everyone think?

SpecDRacing
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FOR ANYONE ON THIS THREAD LOOKING ON HOW TO DO THIS SWAP.

zerothread?id=207033

The thread above contains one finished car and a second one in the middle of a build.

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now that has been done on 240's...could be swap in other chassis..like 510's?

i mean KA<SR<VQ...

mostly looking for wiring issues...tryin to use stock ECU, or use another management in order to avoid unnecessary mil's

BTW the FWD maxima motor (vq30 or 35 )have the same tranny bolt pattern in order to use a RWD tranny...can somebody explain that..thanks

deuce_40
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vqswap.com

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vqswap.com

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RustspecS13
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VQswap.com is mostly just mounts, and they have a standalone solution. Not really hard for any fabricator to do, but props for getting it out there.

I'm doing a VQ30DE+z33 6 speed swap in my s13 this winter, with cams and megasquirt. I'm aiming for 240WHP+ and 7500-8000rpm redline and making power up there. With a very wide powerband.

All the VQ30's and VQ35s share the same bell housing patterens, but the FWD/RWD oil pans are different.

IE if you buy a FWD VQ to use in a RWD setup with the G35/350Z 6 speed, you need a RWD oil pan.

Also the FWD/RWD blocks are the exact same OTHER then the engine mounts. When I put my FWD VQ30 in, compared to a RWD VQ35 block, the mounts are farther back.

In short, block mounting points are different, and oil pans are different, everything else swaps around. even internals.

If you have more questions read all the info on engineswaptech.com and look through all the galleries. It'll answer A LOT of your questions.

~Alex

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jamesblonde82
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check out 110 octane's 240 vert w/ VQ

seksi

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I'm looking into the swap down the line, but am aiming for the complicated california legal swap; so my only real concerns now are the exhaust manifolds not being modified. After that one issue, it's pretty much done :P

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jamesblonde82
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VQswap.com is in San Dimas, they would know how to keep in legal.

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I emailed them; they wouldn't say either way, but they did say in order to keep the stock exhaust all you would need to do is flip the *brain fart* steering line; which in cali would mean your exhaust would pass. Then you would have to just squeeze all the rest of the internals and hook up all the neccessary brains so that you were not throwing engine codes.

Thats as far as I have gotten in my pondering though.

Any other views or incites probably would be well appreciated.

STX830
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I have a 97 240sx and got the idea to put a VQ35DE out of a 350z. To this point I thought I was the only idiot to want to try this good to know i'm not. I like the idea of the raw tier burning aspect like a V8 in a tuner so u have the best of both worlds and better handling to be had for time attack and circuit racing and then take it to go drifting. Anyway I love the idea and i'm set on doing the swap in my car and then turning it into a competition car. So thats what I plan to start working toward, a lot of work to be done but a must for me.

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A WORD OF WARNING TO ALL THOSE CONSIDERING A VQ35 SWAP:If you own a 240sx or 510 & want to do this swap cautiously do business with vqswap.com They, or should I say he, (being Andrew the guy the runs San Dimas Auto, aka vqswap) has no sense of customer service. He is very slow, non-communicative, provides poor service.

EDIT:There was a lot of drama towards the end of our 4 month transaction regarding my receiving my engine harness but I have now received the harness, so I can no longer claim that Andrew has dealt with me dishonestly.
Modified by xlr8r at 4:32 PM 4/18/2008

JSPEC311
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what about the drive by wire throttle? is it easier to try to keep this or should try to do a cable? how is either actually done?

JSPEC311
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I hope this is the only case like this. because now im nervous to buy the swap kit. IS THERE ANYONE else that has been screwed by this company?

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if you use the factory ecu or HydraEMS you can use the drive by wire

if you use stand alone engine management you will have to use a standard throttle.


xlr8r
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Haltech has a new EMS called the platinum series that is a standalone that can run a VQ35DE & use a cable throttle body. Trying to set up the drive by wire is doable but tricky if you use a stock ECU. I'll be using an AEM EMS (the one that vqswap offers) & a cable T-body, but if Haltech had released their EMS prior to my purchasing the AEM I would've got the Haltech.

Anyways, Andrew finally contacted me & promised me a tracking # for the harness yesterday. I haven't received it yet, so we'll see how his plays out.

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Running the stock ecu is not that difficult of a task if you have everything. I'm sick and tired of seeing this trend with the motor swap. There is enough information out there to let you know what you need. Grant it there isn't a VQ35DE Swap for dummies right now though there will be when I'm done, BUT that doesn't mean that it should be use as an excuse to get it done with a full stand alone. I'm more than positive there is enough skilled people that can wire it up. Besides unless your going turbo, with non-variable cams there is no real need to go stand alone.Especially ones that aren't compatible with all the stock components, and will not produce similar power or reliability of the factory ecu.


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for all the people who performed this swap already, how much did the engine swap cost (not labor as i will do it myself) but the hardware like engine, trans, ecu, harness, etc... and where did you go to get it? i don't know about a junkyard cause none of them around me have one.

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I'm also attempting this swap it will be several months before I get to the wiring though, irax if you pull this off before I start mine hopefully you can be a good resource to talk to I was scared to buy a vqswap kit but a guy on zilvia was selling one dirt cheap, and I mean dirt cheap so I couldn't turn it down...I just hope it fits. I do plan on running the stock ecu haltech has a nice unit but its pointless to spend $2300 for standalone when I don't plan to run boost.

The engine, harness, ecu, and trans will probably run you 2-3k depends on mileage I bought mine with the car I have a low mileage 04 vq with a 04 trans AND a 06 trans as a backup.

BippuBoss
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not exactly a lot of time and money. there is a website i think its called http://www.vqswap.com and they actually do this sort of thing all the time. it's a good idea. you might also think of going with and F22 from an S2K. Super Street did a feature on it a while back. Just think about it. Some people like different things. I would probably go with a VQ.


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