VG30DETT into 1989 240SX

V8 240sx? Sure! If either the chassis OR the engine is non-Nissan (i.e. SR20 in an RX-7 or LS1 in a 240sx), we've done it.
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Postby kanye240 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:54 am

oopps ...i see now


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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:31 am

Hey! Just go to the site. The price is listed there. Again, i don't wanna get black-balled by NICO, since I'm still working on getting my vendor account set up here. Apologize for any vagueness.


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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:35 am

I, for one, would love to see it, but I honestly do not believe it is a simple drop and bolt up affair. The crossmember and the subframes are different. The KA24 transmission measured against the Z32/ECR33/ER34 5MT is not the same shape and dimension.

Anyway, I'll still do my own once I get an S14 to rip into.
WoDan23 wrote:just so everyone knows there is like a 14 page article on this swap in Sport Compact car september issue i believe? i could be wrong...but i know i have it laying around here somewhere...they swap one into an S14 and provide full details and photos for the whole thing...try and find it...its on the front page so you shouldnt be able to miss it

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:36 am

Sending you an e-mail.
93HATCH240 wrote:Hey, after reading 3 pages I would like to know the release date and [email protected]. Thanks. Rob

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:40 am

Man! I never knew you guys would be so down with this swap, and I only did it to say it can be done and to give everybody something else to think of swapping a KA out with. SR/CA/RB- again, I love those engines, and yeah, I can say I have love for KA, as well, but to have 300 bhp out of the box in stock form in a car that weighs less than a 300ZX, man... Again, my friends and fellow NICO members- thank you for even looking at my art and for your candid comments and love you have thrown to it.

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Postby Reno » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:10 am

Bump for the dream i just had about this thread...

... yea i just woke up

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Postby Poor_S13_Driver » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:49 pm

I would also like a price for the kit, and a date when you think youll be churning them out. My S13 begs me for own everyday [email protected]..... keep us updated with ANY info/thoughts you have

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:47 pm

The price for the kit is listed at http://www.180sxfaktory.com, and the release date is late Spetember.

As for updates- without a doubt. Once I'm up and running on NICO as a vendor in September (I'm on vacation right now in Thailand), I'll be able to talk more freely about this kit, as well as my other products I make for the S13. NICO is the place for me to communicate with you all, as well as to get feedback. The folks who end up with 180SX FAKTORY WERKS products, I am hoping that they will provide feedback. I, for one, thrive on honesty and candid talk, and it is only through that form of communication can improvement and refinement occur. As you can tell from my business site, I am very niche in what I do. Not too many companies out there are into just one line up of cars. I don't expect to get rich off of this company, monetarily. I just want to get rich on knowledge and information to pass on to all, as well as to receive. Money doesn't drive me, but pure passion from the heart, and humbleness to even be within the community of Nissan S13-S15 fuels and guides it. Again, thank you...
Poor_S13_Driver wrote:I would also like a price for the kit, and a date when you think youll be churning them out. My S13 begs me for own everyday [email protected]..... keep us updated with ANY info/thoughts you have

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Postby evan86 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:18 pm

I am very impressed by what I have seen so far. I am a huge Z32 fan and I own a 96 twin turbo along with 2 1990 twin turbo parts cars. The 240 is my daily driver and I've always toyed with the VG idea, just so I can be consistant with all my cars . I don't do any major work on my cars since I lack the tools, facility, and know-how involved to do a swap. This kit will definitely make things easier for my friend who has done all my mechanic work and twin cam/5spd conversion on my 240. He will not touch a VG in a Z, but I know he'll think differently with one going in an S13. Before I wrecked my 1990 300zx, it screamed at 17 psi on the stock turbos. I can't even imagine what that will be like in my 240. You have a future customer here if I can convince my mechanic to do it.

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Postby turbo_dreams » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:59 am

different

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Postby Reno » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:05 am

hmmm......

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:35 am

evan86 wrote:I am very impressed by what I have seen so far. I am a huge Z32 fan and I own a 96 twin turbo along with 2 1990 twin turbo parts cars. The 240 is my daily driver and I've always toyed with the VG idea, just so I can be consistant with all my cars . I don't do any major work on my cars since I lack the tools, facility, and know-how involved to do a swap. This kit will definitely make things easier for my friend who has done all my mechanic work and twin cam/5spd conversion on my 240. He will not touch a VG in a Z, but I know he'll think differently with one going in an S13. Before I wrecked my 1990 300zx, it screamed at 17 psi on the stock turbos. I can't even imagine what that will be like in my 240. You have a future customer here if I can convince my mechanic to do it.
Thanks for being impressed ! As I said in a few threads ago, this swap puts the S13 into a whole entirely different category. The closest I can put it is it is like a Z32 with massive weight reduction, and for the faint of heart, I wouldn't recommend it unless you've got the cajones and a donut for your neck because this thing will inflict whiplash

If your mechanic can put legos together, then he can definitely do this swap, since I have taken all the hard stuff out of the equation. Timeframe to do the swap in the hands of a competent person is one solid day provided all the prep work has been completed for doing a swap. My thoughts are that before even putting the engine in, one may as well go ahead and replace the normal consumables like clutch, water pump, timing belt, as well as inspect the front for wear and tear (steering boots, bushings, et al). You can figure another day to do the wiring and tuning, unless you are getting a VG30DETT with a known history. The dash wiring is cake


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Postby evan86 » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:13 am

180sxfaktory wrote:Thanks for being impressed ! As I said in a few threads ago, this swap puts the S13 into a whole entirely different category. The closest I can put it is it is like a Z32 with massive weight reduction, and for the faint of heart, I wouldn't recommend it unless you've got the cajones and a donut for your neck because this thing will inflict whiplash

If your mechanic can put legos together, then he can definitely do this swap, since I have taken all the hard stuff out of the equation. Timeframe to do the swap in the hands of a competent person is one solid day provided all the prep work has been completed for doing a swap. My thoughts are that before even putting the engine in, one may as well go ahead and replace the normal consumables like clutch, water pump, timing belt, as well as inspect the front for wear and tear (steering boots, bushings, et al). You can figure another day to do the wiring and tuning, unless you are getting a VG30DETT with a known history. The dash wiring is cake
He said he would definitely do it with this kit. I'll make sure to put a lot of new parts on while the motor is out. My car was running great, but the turbos had high miles, so it'll be time for an upgrade . The most work and money will be spent on insuring that the motor will be reliable. I'm getting really excited about this now. The 240 community is always open to new swap ideas, since there are already so many available, and the engine bay is so versatile. There are some skeptics out there, but we'll show them.

EDIT: Is there any way to keep the AC? I have a guy who has made custom lines for me for my twin cam swap since I have a 1990 and I'm using the twin cam compressor, and I'm sure he could make some for this swap. The oil filter seems to be in the way, and I'm guessing it isn't that easy or you guys would have done it. EDIT2: haha sorry. Just read the first post.

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Postby NSRsheets » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:24 am

That's amazing. I have an 89 s13 too and if you do the write up on it let me know. I would be interested.

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:36 am

evan86 wrote:He said he would definitely do it with this kit. I'll make sure to put a lot of new parts on while the motor is out. My car was running great, but the turbos had high miles, so it'll be time for an upgrade . The most work and money will be spent on insuring that the motor will be reliable. I'm getting really excited about this now. The 240 community is always open to new swap ideas, since there are already so many available, and the engine bay is so versatile. There are some skeptics out there, but we'll show them.

EDIT: Is there any way to keep the AC? I have a guy who has made custom lines for me for my twin cam swap since I have a 1990 and I'm using the twin cam compressor, and I'm sure he could make some for this swap. The oil filter seems to be in the way, and I'm guessing it isn't that easy or you guys would have done it. EDIT2: haha sorry. Just read the first post.

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I'm already ahead of you on the oil filter. The oil filter relocator kit that comes with the master kit comes with a fitting to plug into the stock filter location due to the placement of the stock filter area and the subframe. You having the Z32, you know how much of a pain it is to just do an oil change.

As for the A/C compressor/lines, I can hook them up and run the A/C. If you notice the oil filter relocator, you can mount it any place you want, granted if you have the clearance. I chose that spot for no obvious reason.

Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence! I'm not doing this swap to win friends, but as you know, to give the S13 community something more to think of instead of the normal.

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Postby Reno » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:51 am

hmmm what about the driveshaft??

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Postby evan86 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:14 am

Reno wrote:hmmm what about the driveshaft??
You have to get one made. Luckily I have both the Z32 and S13 driveshafts and I have a guy that's going to mate them to a one piece. Or you could go with Driveshaft Specialist Inc, 1-866-455-6622. One of the few guys with the swap in the States used them and it cost him $350 shipped "it uses GM style replaceable U joints and I was told it should hold 600+hp."

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Postby vvaffle » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:57 am

This is awesome, let us know what the weight distribution and total weight are like when you figure it out. Also, I'd love to know where you got those headlights.

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Postby Florida240sx » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:30 am

$1500 for the kit??? Is that our nico price? Is their shipping on it?? I'd liek to do my own brackets myself. But would rather just buy the kit so no headaches and I've had enough of those with my Ka-TAvailable for purchase yet??

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Postby tjmhillz » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:46 am

time to start savign for the kit.... i cant wait i should be getting the motor soon adn just prepping it and it will give me time to save for the kit....

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:13 am

vvaffle wrote:This is awesome, let us know what the weight distribution and total weight are like when you figure it out. Also, I'd love to know where you got those headlights.
You can get the headlights on eBay .

They're like $162.00 a pair. Just go to eBay and search for "S13 head lamps". Basically, they are knock-offs of East Bear (who stole the idea from RE Amemiya back in the day), but they work the same and are a lot less expensive. In this day and age, if the item works, and it is of good construction, why not go with a no-name? I'm beyond the label whore thing when it comes to aesthetics. There's things I won't chince out on (safety and internal/external performance), and there are things I will (exterior/non-hazardous items), as long as it is made well. Happy shopping!

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:19 am

Florida240sx wrote:$1500 for the kit??? Is that our nico price? Is their shipping on it?? I'd liek to do my own brackets myself. But would rather just buy the kit so no headaches and I've had enough of those with my Ka-TAvailable for purchase yet??
Late September, my friend, and the price that's on the site is for everybody. I am not making big money off of it or my other products. It's one of those things where if it's priced too high, nobody would buy it, and if it's priced too low, I'm not covering my overhead and I may as well not do it. I gotta pay the grocery bill for two other guys. Shipping should be approx. $125 with insurance.

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Postby Florida240sx » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:23 am

Thank You

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:36 am

You are welcome!

Oh! On a separate note, when I posted 300 bhp from VG30DETT with 5MT, that is for Japan spec. For the US spec VG30DETT with 5MT, it's 320 bhp.

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Postby Reno » Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:12 pm

Bump so all we need after the kit is a rebuild after we get the engine and a driveshaft??

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Postby evan86 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:00 pm

180sxfaktory wrote:Late September, my friend, and the price that's on the site is for everybody. I am not making big money off of it or my other products. It's one of those things where if it's priced too high, nobody would buy it, and if it's priced too low, I'm not covering my overhead and I may as well not do it. I gotta pay the grocery bill for two other guys. Shipping should be approx. $125 with insurance.
That is extremely good news. I can put a lot more money into the motor now knowing that shipping isn't going to cost an arm and a leg.

Btw, you are incorrect on your info. Both Japanese and US spec motors are 300 bhp with the manual tranny.

Anyway, good luck getting everything finalized.

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Postby 180sxfaktory » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:09 pm

Yes, a driveshaft and I strongly recommend a rebuild if you have an engine of questionable prior life. It just makes good sense to crack things open and a have a look just for peace of mind. You have to figure that the youngest VG30DETT is approx. 10 years old now, and things do wear out. At least water pump, timing belt, oil/coolant flush and change, thermostat, plugs, clutch and definitely check those turbos.

300 bhp- roger that ! Still a lot more than with a stock KA/CA/SR/RB (except 26).

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Postby AkademikONE » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:43 pm

Sent you an e-mail!

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Postby CarShowz » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:45 pm

coolI wondered if the 300z motor would fit....and there it is.....

Like a glove :

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AkademikONE wrote:Sent you an e-mail!
hey what kind of wheels are those???


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