Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

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Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:26 pm

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby Aven » Sun May 01, 2011 12:31 pm

Thanks for the write up Fastboatman. I ran my lines using your pictures and the book. Seems that an 84 is a beast unto itself. Similar to yours, but different.

It idles sweetly in neutral. As soon as I put it in drive, it stalls. I'm stumped. Anyone have a thought?

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Sun May 01, 2011 4:51 pm

I have an 84 Factory Service Manual, so I might be able to help if you need info from the FSM.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby Aven » Sun May 01, 2011 5:31 pm

Thanks, but I have it.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Sun May 01, 2011 6:09 pm

Have you tried capping off the vac lines just to see how it runs with them capped off? That should tell you if it's a vacuum leak or not.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby Rev_D21 » Mon May 02, 2011 5:53 pm

The mid 80's engines were a mess I tell you. Thankfully you made this thread! Excellent read and will prove invaluable to any 720 owner. I can't stress enough how much of a difference replacing the vac lines on my KA made in terms of smooth performance, runs like a brand new engine now.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Mon May 02, 2011 7:23 pm

Stay tuned. There are a few more vac lines (believe it or not) that I have not shown yet. Photos coming soon! Anyway, I recently found some vac lines that I didn't know were there. All of this stuff was designed for a reason and by people who are way smarter than me.

I decided to make this post because Aven was asking for help AND we frequently get questions about vac lines and rough running engines. Usually people will just delete the vac lines and cap off the ports. That's fine if you do it properly AND CAP THEM ALL OFF, (except the one to the vacuum advance of course)!

So far, I have found at least 6 ports on the intake manifold. Interestingly, there are 3 lines that connect to vacuum switches which then have electrical connections to the computer in my '86 (an '86 has a electronically controlled carb). I've been wondering how performance would be affected with those vac lines deleted. Hmmmmm! More reading to do I guess. LOL!

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby lambohaha » Tue May 03, 2011 3:38 pm

Fortunately all of my vac lines are on correctly but my issue is the 2 prong plug on the side of the carb.
What is its purpose? Whomever had the truck before me cut the plugin off the end of the harness so I had to put 2 female spades on there. But now which wire goes to which plug?
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This is how it once was, right now its unplugged.
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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Tue May 03, 2011 4:00 pm

I'll get you an answer today or tomorrow at the latest. Mine's still intact.

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Postby lambohaha » Tue May 03, 2011 5:35 pm

fastboatman29212 wrote:I'll get you an answer today or tomorrow at the latest. Mine's still intact.
Cool, thanks :biggrin:

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Tue May 03, 2011 7:28 pm

It looks like the wires are switched in the photo you posted above. Hey, you had a 50/50 chance of being right, LOL! See my new post. It should help!

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby lambohaha » Wed May 04, 2011 5:50 am

fastboatman29212 wrote:It looks like the wires are switched in the photo you posted above. Hey, you had a 50/50 chance of being right, LOL! See my new post. It should help!
lol same thing I told myself, "I got a 50% chance of getting this right or wrong" lol. I tried it both ways a few weeks ago and I was getting arcs from the vertical clip no matter which wire touched it.
Anyways, thanks for your help.

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Postby N-Dually » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:39 pm

SAWEET! Thank you!

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby Nathyne » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:17 pm

wow you have fantastic DIYs and threads!

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:40 pm

Thanks. I believe in helping others when I can. I am far from being an expert though. Really just a backyard mechanic is all.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby Rev_D21 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:19 pm

FastBoat, have you ever considered writing articles for NICO?

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby ThatsDifferent » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:50 am

I got tired of all the vacuum lines and decided to get rid of all the crap that wasn't needed. I eliminated 12 vacuum connections and my Hitachi is still working great. That z2.4 actually runs better and my fuel economy increased by a couple miles per gallon.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:06 am

This thread was created to help people who needed to get their vac lines back on correctly because the prior owner messed them up or other similar reason. I might try running my carb with the vac lines deleted sometime soon. I agree that they sure are a mess to deal with. Anyway, I can't blame anyone who deletes them.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby ThatsDifferent » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:03 pm

You did an awesome job of listing out and diagraming the lines. Before I took the lines off my truck I spend many hours trying to find the information you have outlined here. I agree with Reverend. Perhaps you should consider writing articles. Not many people can communicate that clearly. If you ever want to eliminate a lot of hoses on your truck let me know and I can show you what I did on mine.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby Aven » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:24 am

Hey Fastboatman, I just wanted to say a big THANKS for doing this thread. I was finally able to get to work on the truck this weekend and got it all sorted out. I couldn't have done it without your help.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby Rev_D21 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:13 pm

A FAQ quality thread.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby pistolkeith » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:39 pm

ThatsDifferent wrote:You did an awesome job of listing out and diagraming the lines. Before I took the lines off my truck I spend many hours trying to find the information you have outlined here. I agree with Reverend. Perhaps you should consider writing articles. Not many people can communicate that clearly. If you ever want to eliminate a lot of hoses on your truck let me know and I can show you what I did on mine.

im very interested!

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby pistolkeith » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:58 pm

this is all verrrry confusing to me. i got $100 and a box of beers to the person who can come and replace my vacuum lines in Toronto. Im suuuure mine a shot and would love this "new engine feel" that everyone seems to be talking about!

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:17 am

PistolKeith,
You are right, these lines ARE confusing! LOL! That's why a lot of owners delete them. If laws in Toronto require that you keep them, I'm here to help you get it right. I found a few pages in the FSM (1984) that can help also. Your truck looks great and I want to help you keep it running if I can.

Having said all that, if Toronto law allows you to delete the vacuum lines and cap off the ports, that's gonna be a whole lot easier, so that would take very little time and I think I can help with that too.

All of this is done assuming that your carburetor is working properly, which it probably is if you can drive it without a lot of stuttering or stalling.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby pistolkeith » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:53 am

Fastboatman, how would i find out if Toronto laws require me to keep them?

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:03 am

If your area has an emission inspection every so often, then they inspect for modifications too. If you ask your local auto mechanic or auto parts store, they should know if you have emissions laws.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby XavierBK » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:40 am

Forgive my ignorance but what vacuum lines are able to be capped?

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:47 am

You actually cap the ports that are on the carb, the carb spacer and leave the vacuum line to the brake booster and distributor as they are.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby lego126 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:04 am

Thanks for the DIY's boatman. One question though. I only have one vac line unplugged. The little vacuum motor on the breather right hand side above the exhaust. I see in one of your pic it's labeled as B, and connects to a T, but it never shows where the other 2 ends go.. could you possibly help me out. Maybe I'm not looking close enough at your pics. It's right above the heat riser tube thing. On the 10th picture from the top. And thanks for the help.

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Re: Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

Postby fastboatman29212 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:49 am

The vacuum tube labeled "B" that comes off the air cleaner does not have a Y connection. One end connects to the underside of the cleaner housing and then follows along the air cleaner and connects again to the cleaner housing where the heat riser tube connects to the air cleaner. I'm not positive we are talking about the same thing because there is no "Y" connection.


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