Vacuum Line Placement - 1986 Z24 gas motor

1980-1986 Datsun 720 forums. All 720-specific topics and discussion can be found here.
User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

Click the pic for the full article - ENJOY!

Image
Last edited by fastboatman29212 on Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:18 pm, edited 4 times in total.


Aven
Posts: 136
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:42 pm
Car: 84 720 Kingcab
Location: South King County WA

Post

Thanks for the write up Fastboatman. I ran my lines using your pictures and the book. Seems that an 84 is a beast unto itself. Similar to yours, but different.

It idles sweetly in neutral. As soon as I put it in drive, it stalls. I'm stumped. Anyone have a thought?

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

I have an 84 Factory Service Manual, so I might be able to help if you need info from the FSM.

Aven
Posts: 136
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:42 pm
Car: 84 720 Kingcab
Location: South King County WA

Post

Thanks, but I have it.

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

Have you tried capping off the vac lines just to see how it runs with them capped off? That should tell you if it's a vacuum leak or not.

User avatar
Rev_D21
Posts: 6897
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:49 pm
Car: 1986.5 D21 LB HD 2WD V6 5Speed
1991 D21 Reg 2WD Auto
1995 D21 Reg 2WD 5Spd
1996 D21 Reg 4WD 5Spd
2012 Versa 1.6S 5-Speed
Location: Somwhere in Western NY
Contact:

Post

The mid 80's engines were a mess I tell you. Thankfully you made this thread! Excellent read and will prove invaluable to any 720 owner. I can't stress enough how much of a difference replacing the vac lines on my KA made in terms of smooth performance, runs like a brand new engine now.

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

Stay tuned. There are a few more vac lines (believe it or not) that I have not shown yet. Photos coming soon! Anyway, I recently found some vac lines that I didn't know were there. All of this stuff was designed for a reason and by people who are way smarter than me.

I decided to make this post because Aven was asking for help AND we frequently get questions about vac lines and rough running engines. Usually people will just delete the vac lines and cap off the ports. That's fine if you do it properly AND CAP THEM ALL OFF, (except the one to the vacuum advance of course)!

So far, I have found at least 6 ports on the intake manifold. Interestingly, there are 3 lines that connect to vacuum switches which then have electrical connections to the computer in my '86 (an '86 has a electronically controlled carb). I've been wondering how performance would be affected with those vac lines deleted. Hmmmmm! More reading to do I guess. LOL!

User avatar
lambohaha
Posts: 61
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:55 am
Car: `85 720 2wd std cab
Location: Madison, Fl.

Post

Fortunately all of my vac lines are on correctly but my issue is the 2 prong plug on the side of the carb.
What is its purpose? Whomever had the truck before me cut the plugin off the end of the harness so I had to put 2 female spades on there. But now which wire goes to which plug?
Image
This is how it once was, right now its unplugged.
Image

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

I'll get you an answer today or tomorrow at the latest. Mine's still intact.

User avatar
lambohaha
Posts: 61
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:55 am
Car: `85 720 2wd std cab
Location: Madison, Fl.

Post

fastboatman29212 wrote:I'll get you an answer today or tomorrow at the latest. Mine's still intact.
Cool, thanks :biggrin:

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

It looks like the wires are switched in the photo you posted above. Hey, you had a 50/50 chance of being right, LOL! See my new post. It should help!

User avatar
lambohaha
Posts: 61
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:55 am
Car: `85 720 2wd std cab
Location: Madison, Fl.

Post

fastboatman29212 wrote:It looks like the wires are switched in the photo you posted above. Hey, you had a 50/50 chance of being right, LOL! See my new post. It should help!
lol same thing I told myself, "I got a 50% chance of getting this right or wrong" lol. I tried it both ways a few weeks ago and I was getting arcs from the vertical clip no matter which wire touched it.
Anyways, thanks for your help.

User avatar
N-Dually
Posts: 93
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:02 pm
Car: 1986 Nissan 720 Dually
Location: Tennessee
Contact:

Post

SAWEET! Thank you!

Nathyne
Posts: 59
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:14 pm
Car: 1994 Skyline GTR
1983 Datsun 720 4x4 reg cab KA24E swap in the works

Post

wow you have fantastic DIYs and threads!

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

Thanks. I believe in helping others when I can. I am far from being an expert though. Really just a backyard mechanic is all.

User avatar
Rev_D21
Posts: 6897
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:49 pm
Car: 1986.5 D21 LB HD 2WD V6 5Speed
1991 D21 Reg 2WD Auto
1995 D21 Reg 2WD 5Spd
1996 D21 Reg 4WD 5Spd
2012 Versa 1.6S 5-Speed
Location: Somwhere in Western NY
Contact:

Post

FastBoat, have you ever considered writing articles for NICO?

ThatsDifferent
Posts: 12
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:57 pm
Car: 1983 720 4x4

Post

I got tired of all the vacuum lines and decided to get rid of all the crap that wasn't needed. I eliminated 12 vacuum connections and my Hitachi is still working great. That z2.4 actually runs better and my fuel economy increased by a couple miles per gallon.

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

This thread was created to help people who needed to get their vac lines back on correctly because the prior owner messed them up or other similar reason. I might try running my carb with the vac lines deleted sometime soon. I agree that they sure are a mess to deal with. Anyway, I can't blame anyone who deletes them.

ThatsDifferent
Posts: 12
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:57 pm
Car: 1983 720 4x4

Post

You did an awesome job of listing out and diagraming the lines. Before I took the lines off my truck I spend many hours trying to find the information you have outlined here. I agree with Reverend. Perhaps you should consider writing articles. Not many people can communicate that clearly. If you ever want to eliminate a lot of hoses on your truck let me know and I can show you what I did on mine.

Aven
Posts: 136
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:42 pm
Car: 84 720 Kingcab
Location: South King County WA

Post

Hey Fastboatman, I just wanted to say a big THANKS for doing this thread. I was finally able to get to work on the truck this weekend and got it all sorted out. I couldn't have done it without your help.

User avatar
Rev_D21
Posts: 6897
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:49 pm
Car: 1986.5 D21 LB HD 2WD V6 5Speed
1991 D21 Reg 2WD Auto
1995 D21 Reg 2WD 5Spd
1996 D21 Reg 4WD 5Spd
2012 Versa 1.6S 5-Speed
Location: Somwhere in Western NY
Contact:

Post

A FAQ quality thread.

User avatar
pistolkeith
Posts: 50
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:36 pm
Car: 1985 Nissan King Cab 720

Post

ThatsDifferent wrote:You did an awesome job of listing out and diagraming the lines. Before I took the lines off my truck I spend many hours trying to find the information you have outlined here. I agree with Reverend. Perhaps you should consider writing articles. Not many people can communicate that clearly. If you ever want to eliminate a lot of hoses on your truck let me know and I can show you what I did on mine.

im very interested!

User avatar
pistolkeith
Posts: 50
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:36 pm
Car: 1985 Nissan King Cab 720

Post

this is all verrrry confusing to me. i got $100 and a box of beers to the person who can come and replace my vacuum lines in Toronto. Im suuuure mine a shot and would love this "new engine feel" that everyone seems to be talking about!

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

PistolKeith,
You are right, these lines ARE confusing! LOL! That's why a lot of owners delete them. If laws in Toronto require that you keep them, I'm here to help you get it right. I found a few pages in the FSM (1984) that can help also. Your truck looks great and I want to help you keep it running if I can.

Having said all that, if Toronto law allows you to delete the vacuum lines and cap off the ports, that's gonna be a whole lot easier, so that would take very little time and I think I can help with that too.

All of this is done assuming that your carburetor is working properly, which it probably is if you can drive it without a lot of stuttering or stalling.

FBM29212

User avatar
pistolkeith
Posts: 50
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:36 pm
Car: 1985 Nissan King Cab 720

Post

Fastboatman, how would i find out if Toronto laws require me to keep them?

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

If your area has an emission inspection every so often, then they inspect for modifications too. If you ask your local auto mechanic or auto parts store, they should know if you have emissions laws.

XavierBK
Posts: 58
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:40 pm
Car: 2011 Yamaha Stryker
1985 Nissan 720

Post

Forgive my ignorance but what vacuum lines are able to be capped?

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

You actually cap the ports that are on the carb, the carb spacer and leave the vacuum line to the brake booster and distributor as they are.

lego126
Posts: 54
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:13 pm
Car: 97' HB 4x4 280K
85' 720 180K

Post

Thanks for the DIY's boatman. One question though. I only have one vac line unplugged. The little vacuum motor on the breather right hand side above the exhaust. I see in one of your pic it's labeled as B, and connects to a T, but it never shows where the other 2 ends go.. could you possibly help me out. Maybe I'm not looking close enough at your pics. It's right above the heat riser tube thing. On the 10th picture from the top. And thanks for the help.

User avatar
fastboatman29212
Posts: 493
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:45 pm
Car: left this forum. Sold my truck.
Location: South Carolina

Post

The vacuum tube labeled "B" that comes off the air cleaner does not have a Y connection. One end connects to the underside of the cleaner housing and then follows along the air cleaner and connects again to the cleaner housing where the heat riser tube connects to the air cleaner. I'm not positive we are talking about the same thing because there is no "Y" connection.


Return to “Datsun 720”