Tried bully dog on another car

[vTechnique1x1]

I tried bully dog power pup on phenoms car and it didn't work any1 know Why

[ItsEcko06]

i think each programmer is per VIN number. so the first car you use it on will be the last. unless you do a hack or something. iono, i'm not responsible for any of that.

[mikegtr06]

Once you return the first car to stock then you ccan do it on another car...

[QR25DE]

Yeah exactly, it's so they can make their money and I don't blame them for doing it. It's a security thing.

I advanced the timing 2 degrees on my car (2.5L) and it did wonders. I wish I had advanced it before knowing it wouldn't cause any problems. I also put the rev limit at 6700 and hit it daily fine... although all motors are different...

It pulls like a b**** now lol.

[2008AltiCoupeDan]

I advanced the timing 2 degrees on my car (2.5L) and it did wonders. I wish I had advanced it before knowing it wouldn't cause any problems.... although all motors are different...

huh? lol dnt u just put in 91?

[QR25DE]

What?

There is a 91 Premium Tune on the Power Pup. You can also advance/retard timing with it along with speed limiter and rev limiter.

What does "huh? lol dnt u just put in 91?" mean?

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

What?

There is a 91 Premium Tune on the Power Pup. You can also advance/retard timing with it along with speed limiter and rev limiter.

What does "huh? lol dnt u just put in 91?" mean?

wat does advancing the timing do???

its annoying bc way bk people said you could use it on more than one car

[QR25DE]

Well basically it starts the ignition process sooner... for simplicity sake it can move the torque curve. Since it's pretty much useless for us to be revving at 4500rpm+ all the time it can move the torque curve down more. So more power in the lower rpms.

I've been playing with it a bit but without putting it on the dyno I can't give any concrete numbers. I still have to dyno this which I haven't gotten around to.

I have retarded the timing 2 degrees and drove it for an afternoon. <- Dont waste your time unless you want power in the higher rpms. It was so slow off the line I could barely chirp my tires.

I went back to 0 degrees and drove it. Much better, but still felt like normal car... well because it's at stock timing.

I went to +2 degrees again and I have no trouble spinning the 19" 27lb wheels with the supper sticky toyos. It's pretty cool coming onto it. Feels like a whole new car.

Keep in mind I have a stock intake and exhaust system. With a high flowing exhaust such as the Stillen cat back, a header, an intake it would be awesome. Those are definitely my next upgrades. I'm sure if I had the stock 16" wheels back on it I would tear them to shreds.

As long as you run 91+ octane on it with the premium tun it should be ok and will not ping/detonate. I haven't had any problems with mine and I have had the timing advanced for about a week and a half taking it to 6700 daily. I wouldn't go any higher than 6700 on our valve springs. They'll either break or won't be able to keep up with it all.

[vTechnique1x1]

while talking about this thing..i recently filled the car up with premium fuel and i went to change the settings from regular..to premium and i also tried changing the rev limitier a little bit higher but it wouldnt download is it because i already have a setting if so how do i start over?

[QR25DE]

Just go through the step by step process in the install guide. Car off, plug in device, follow on screen instructions. Should work fine. Did it give you an error message?

[CoupeVQ35CVT]

Interesting, so you're saying that advancing the spark timing gives you more low end torque? And Retarding the timing gives you higher end torque? That seems counter intuitive to me.. I must be missing something about the combustion process.

In my mind I would relate that to pedaling a bicycle. "Advanced timing:" If I start to hit move my feet down to push on the pedal before it came up all the way, I would lose "torque" but be able to pedal up to faster speeds. "Retard timing:" If I wait till the pedal reaches "TDC" and then continues another few degrees forward before pushing down on the pedal, I gain lots of torque which is great at helping me accelerate my bike from a dead stop.

This same theory works with electric motors. Advance to timing to gain revs and upper end torque, and retard the timing to gain low end torque but sacrificing rpms.

Or do combustion engines work totally different than that? Wow that would shake the foundation of my understanding of physics as far as engines go.

[D-Roll]

i think each programmer is per VIN number. so the first car you use it on will be the last. unless you do a hack or something. iono, i'm not responsible for any of that.

[D-Roll]

Yeah exactly, it's so they can make their money and I don't blame them for doing it. It's a security thing.

I advanced the timing 2 degrees on my car (2.5L) and it did wonders. I wish I had advanced it before knowing it wouldn't cause any problems. I also put the rev limit at 6700 and hit it daily fine... although all motors are different...

It pulls like a b**** now lol.

I did the same and Vrooommmm!!