Transmission poll- Manual or Automatic?

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all the way


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6mt ftw no doubt

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A driver with REAL instinct for driving does NOT have any issue with comfort on using 6 speed manual. The shifting becomes natural part of the right hand (USDM Z).

As for acutal driving experience, 6 speed keeps the driver awake during long trips. The clutch keeps the blood flowing through the leg and torso muscles, while the shifter keeps the shoulder and arm awake.

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7 speed! GTR all the way.

no, but really.. nothing beats a manual sportscar. To tell you the truth though, i would probably be faster at the track in the 5 speed automatic.

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only auto sports car id get would have to b one with the f1 transmission like on ferrari and lambo... but as for the normal transmission options on all other cars... if it comes with a stick and its got some kind of sport to it... hands down id get a stick.... also its reasuring knowing that not every one can start a manual... so if some DA tries to steel a car and they cant drive a stick well they wont get very far. As for an auto anyone whose seen a car can drive one... and if ur like me u hate it when other ppl are like " can i drive ur car?!" and all i say is " its a manual" and they just get a sudden look of saddness.

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That's the transmission GT-R has, only that it's better.

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You also have to take into account, that while some of us would have really liked to get the 6mt, when a car is sold to you at $6k under wholesale, "you don't look a gift horse in the mouth". Mine has the autotragic, but it wasn't worth paying $6-10k more for a 6mt.

Basically, all I am saying is that you can bag on people for getting an AT, but sometimes situations arise where you would be foolish or aren't in a situation to turn it down.

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Sell that trans for a 6 MT! LoL.

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sonsters wrote:only auto sports car id get would have to b one with the f1 transmission like on ferrari and lambo... but as for the normal transmission options on all other cars... if it comes with a stick and its got some kind of sport to it... hands down id get a stick.... also its reasuring knowing that not every one can start a manual... so if some DA tries to steel a car and they cant drive a stick well they wont get very far. As for an auto anyone whose seen a car can drive one... and if ur like me u hate it when other ppl are like " can i drive ur car?!" and all i say is " its a manual" and they just get a sudden look of saddness.
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Anyone know what the bolt sizes are for 350Z transmission to engine bolts? I have only the length of the bolts from the FSM. There is no indication of bolt diameter (I assume M12 for larger ones) nor the thread. ( 1.25???)

I'm trying to attach the transmission tomorrow.Thanks

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i would say at least an M12 (just without looking at the bolts)

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What about the thread? 1.25 or 1.0

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honestly i would just grab a handful (variety) and find out which works. time consuming but here at home i don't have the equipment that i have at work, or the supply of bolts.

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M12 bolts are 1.75 mm thread pitch and M10 are 1.50 mm thread pitch.

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Soravia wrote:That's the transmission GT-R has, only that it's better.
Blech, but you have to take account that more people would no how to drive that "supercar" than would say, a base 6mt 350z.

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I can't find it on ebay. Does the 350Z come with separate transmission harness?

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call up painless wiring they can help u out

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cast your vote...I can hardly believe that there are only 11 Z owners here

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i went from 4spd auto to 5 spd manual on my 240 and man what a difference it makes. you can tell too cause ur driving the exact same car just with a different type of transmission.

that's one thing i dont like about the z like someone mentioned, how they came both at and mt. another reason why i prefer s2k over the z is that it only came in manual. not too many people driving it and makes the search for one a lot easier! (same with sti)

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ThuG LyFe wrote:that's one thing i dont like about the z like someone mentioned, how they came both at and mt. another reason why i prefer s2k over the z is that it only came in manual. not too many people driving it and makes the search for one a lot easier! (same with sti)
It's economics, Nissan had to sell a lot of 350Z to save Nissan. It was just a couple of years ago that Nissan was having financial problems. Did you know that Chevrolet sells more automatic Corvettes than manual?

The S2K engine would not respond well to an Auto. If they offered an Auto it would be soO slow, no torque. For the Z we have soO much torque that an Auto doesn't really make that much of difference. Plus newer transmissions has already reveresed the pouplar belief that automatics are slow, in fact they have to put an automatic transmissions on the fastest cars because a manual transmission just would not be able to handle it. For example the GTR, and the new Corvette ZR1.

I for one would almost always vote manual. Then someday my weekend car will be an Automatic Monster. But I know looking at a car model that only offers a manual is kinda cool, but is also kind of prehistoric.

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I drive a sports car, so Manual...

haha i kno im gonna stir stuff up!

And I live in the city so plz dont talk to me bout traffic! (NYC)

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bmike818 wrote:Corvette ZR1.
thanks for ruining my day. i thought it was a 6mt like the Z06

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oc350z wrote:Chicks don't drive sticks. Real men do.

Just kidding but a 6 speed is way more fun than an auto on the Z.
I sure do hope you're kidding with that statement, lol, i'll prove you wrong.

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bmike818 wrote: Did you know that Chevrolet sells more automatic Corvettes than manual?
When my brother was looking to buy hes vette he went to one dealership and they had 49 corvettes. Only two of which were manuals. Its actually pretty hard to find a standard corvette to buy in the color and with the options that you want.
Dasoupdude wrote:Whenever i see a person driving an evo, sti, or s2000 i can always say there is a good chance that the person behind the wheel knows a thing or two about his/her car.
Ya I know what you mean. I feel the same way when I see a 300zx, especially if its a twin turbo.

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Idk if the poll is even still going, since the topic seems to have switched but i got the 6mt, i would have never bought an auto for this car, Or any 2 seater in that case.

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JDMZ32 wrote:
thanks for ruining my day. i thought it was a 6mt like the Z06
sorry
CustomDesignConcepts wrote:Idk if the poll is even still going, since the topic seems to have switched but i got the 6mt, i would have never bought an auto for this car, Or any 2 seater in that case.
Poll is still going strong!

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There's nothing wrong or less worthy of having an automatic instead of a manual - it all depends on what's most important to you.

Why buy an automatic?1) It's faster in the 1/4 mile (perfect shifts every time plus better torque management at take-off)2) If you have to deal with stop and go traffic every day both the drivetrain and your left leg will las longer.3) If the engine has so much torque that the "rubber band effect" is minimal (like in a Corvette)4) You cruise more than carve.

Why go with a stick shift?1) You like to hit every apex and power out of every curve with maximum power in the right gear2) You consider the gas pedal to be not only an acceleration but also deceleration tool3) Revving at stop lights makes your right foot feel good.4) you're a control freak anyway

The manu-matics in most new cars are a step in the right direction, but the torque converters still mean that when you step on it on the highway, revs increase without sending extra power to the wheels (rubber band effect). And the majority (at lest American mfgs) don't give you engine braking capabilities. Additionally, none of the manual functions on the automatics are real time - especially downshifts. The Aisin models used in the Miata and Cooper S are pretty good, but there is still a .5 to .75 second lag on downshifts - unacceptable on a road racing track as you're prepping to go in to a curve.

The new dual-clutch systems (VW, soon BMW) will probably be as good as it gets, and something I would consider good enough to replace a regular manual for me. Direct drive all the time, true manual control. The only thing that will be missing is revving at stop lights.

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tc-350z wrote:There's nothing wrong or less worthy of having an automatic instead of a manual - it all depends on what's most important to you.

Why buy an automatic?1) It's faster in the 1/4 mile (perfect shifts every time plus better torque management at take-off)2) If you have to deal with stop and go traffic every day both the drivetrain and your left leg will las longer.3) If the engine has so much torque that the "rubber band effect" is minimal (like in a Corvette)4) You cruise more than carve.

Why go with a stick shift?1) You like to hit every apex and power out of every curve with maximum power in the right gear2) You consider the gas pedal to be not only an acceleration but also deceleration tool3) Revving at stop lights makes your right foot feel good.4) you're a control freak anyway

The manu-matics in most new cars are a step in the right direction, but the torque converters still mean that when you step on it on the highway, revs increase without sending extra power to the wheels (rubber band effect). And the majority (at lest American mfgs) don't give you engine braking capabilities. Additionally, none of the manual functions on the automatics are real time - especially downshifts. The Aisin models used in the Miata and Cooper S are pretty good, but there is still a .5 to .75 second lag on downshifts - unacceptable on a road racing track as you're prepping to go in to a curve.

The new dual-clutch systems (VW, soon BMW) will probably be as good as it gets, and something I would consider good enough to replace a regular manual for me. Direct drive all the time, true manual control. The only thing that will be missing is revving at stop lights.
I agree with everything you have posted BUT the 1/4 miles times are faster for a automatic Z. Definitely more consistent, but not faster. I have raced several auto Zs at the track and have beat all but one, he was supercharged.

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Y[QUOTE=tc-350z]There's nothing wrong or less worthy of having an automatic instead of a manual - it all depends on what's most important to you.

Why buy an automatic?1) It's faster in the 1/4 mile (perfect shifts every time plus better torque management at take-off)2) If you have to deal with stop and go traffic every day both the drivetrain and your left leg will las longer.3) If the engine has so much torque that the "rubber band effect" is minimal (like in a Corvette)4) You cruise more than carve.

Why go with a stick shift?1) You like to hit every apex and power out of every curve with maximum power in the right gear2) You consider the gas pedal to be not only an acceleration but also deceleration tool3) Revving at stop lights makes your right foot feel good.4) you're a control freak anyway

The manu-matics in most new cars are a step in the right direction, but the torque converters still mean that when you step on it on the highway, revs increase without sending extra power to the wheels (rubber band effect). And the majority (at lest American mfgs) don't give you engine braking capabilities. Additionally, none of the manual functions on the automatics are real time - especially downshifts. The Aisin models used in the Miata and Cooper S are pretty good, but there is still a .5 to .75 second lag on downshifts - unacceptable on a road racing track as you're prepping to go in to a curve.

The new dual-clutch systems (VW, soon BMW) will probably be as good as it gets, and something I would consider good enough to replace a regular manual for me. Direct drive all the time, true manual control. The only thing that will be missing is revving at stop lights. [/QUOTE

Agreed. I got an automatic, and have gotton **** for it, since day one. I'm a girl, I don't want to race it. lol I just want to drive it

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I couldn't agree more, you buy the car to enjoy it whether its an auto or manual. Its a fun car either way, but mine is in the shop right now and I am stuck with a damn rental car. I have been driving it for the last week, and will not see my car until the 9th or 10th.


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