Timing Issue?

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Jeff D
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Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:35 am
Car: 1994 Nissan D21
V6
4WD
Manual Trans

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My truck just cut out yesterday. No sputtering. It was as if I simply turned off the ignition. After trying to turn it over for a while, it finally started, but ran horribly... As if it was misfiring and igniting exhaust. Then after stopping the engine and starting it again. it was fine for about a minute, then cut off again. After start up, ran crappy again. After messing around with the truck all day, I can safely say this is now it's M.O. It will run fine for about a minute... Dies... Then becomes difficult to start... When it does, runs rough until I turn off the ignition. After starting again, runs great for a minute, then cuts off again.

I pulled each plug wire at the time when engine is running rough and all were firing fine. I checked the plugs, wires, cap, and rotor.

Then I checked the timing... When the truck is running good, timing seems fine. When the truck is running rough, the timing jumps all over the place.

We checked the OBD (1) code which was 34, and it suggested the Detonation sensor is bad. We bypassed the sensor with a 560K Ohm resistor and the problem did not change.

I removed the resistor and left the knock sensor disconnected. Still... No change.

Now my buddy thinks the ECU may be bad, so I borrowed a friends truck (exact same truck) and swapped her ECU for mine. Her truck runs great with my ECU. Then I put her MAF in my truck... Didn't work. Even tried swapping out the throttle control... Didn't work.

Anyone else have an idea what can cause the issues I am having?

1994 Nissan D21 pick up
V6 4WD
Manual Trans

I graciously thank you in advance:)


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Rev_D21
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Car: 1986.5 D21 LB HD 2WD V6 5Speed
1991 D21 Reg 2WD Auto
1995 D21 Reg 2WD 5Spd
1996 D21 Reg 4WD 5Spd
2012 Versa 1.6S 5-Speed
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Welcome to NICO! Have you hooked up a vacuum gauge? That would be my next move.

Jeff D
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Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:35 am
Car: 1994 Nissan D21
V6
4WD
Manual Trans

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My buddy tried... Nothing.

Jeff D
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Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:35 am
Car: 1994 Nissan D21
V6
4WD
Manual Trans

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Turns out to be the distributor which I had replaced only about 18 months ago. I assume there must be something else wrong and it's messing with the electronics in the distributor causing it to eventually fail, but I have no idea how to track that down.

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Rev_D21
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Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:49 pm
Car: 1986.5 D21 LB HD 2WD V6 5Speed
1991 D21 Reg 2WD Auto
1995 D21 Reg 2WD 5Spd
1996 D21 Reg 4WD 5Spd
2012 Versa 1.6S 5-Speed
Location: Somwhere in Western NY
Contact:

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The distributor is run by a spindle that also turns the oil pump. If the spindle is damaged or the work gear on the crankshaft nose is able to walk, that could cause changes in timing. So you hooked up vac gauge and got nothing for a reading?

qwerty4756
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Car: 1999 nissan frontier 2.4l KA24DE

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If it had the backfiring issue when it was hot or at operating temperature that is more caused from the hall effect sensor(basically a cam sensor) in the distributor. If it was a re-manufactured dist. that would be a common thing and I wouldn't worry about electrical issues, unless your oil pump drive shaft(the spindle assembly rev is talking about) lost a couple teeth.


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