Timing belt/water pump

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willringo
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So my water pump froze on my 90 300zx and I'm going to do a timing belt replacement at the same time.(it's do for it's service anyways) Can someone recommend a good kit? I'm looking at a kit on Amazon from Evergreen. Any help is appreciated. Also I'm curious if there's anyone in the Boise area who would be willing to help. I had back surgery and I can do it but if anyone is interested I would appreciate it. I can send contact info. Also do I or should I replace the hydraulic tensioner too?Evergreen-TBK180WPT-Nissan-VG30DE-Timing/dp/B007P720GI/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472158193&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=timing+belt+kit+with+water+pump+nissan+300zx+with+hydrollic+tensioner


nissanfreak12
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willringo
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I appreciate your help, but I'm to poor to purchase this kit. I know it's due for the 120 but how important is it at this time period. The car is extremely clean and has 126k, the 60k was done at 79k. In your opinion and I know it might sound ridiculous, but do you think I could get away with doing another 60k service until next year when I'm a little more financially secure? I'm not holding anyone responsible for their input, I'm just looking for an honest opinion. I know things can happen, but unfortunate my situation is what it is. This might be a little too much info to share(the being poor) but such is life.

nissanfreak12
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How many years ago was it done? Its hard to say if a 60 will be ok, your most expensive part is going to be the tensioner.

RubyRed300ZX
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With the name Evergreen, pretty much guaranteed to be sourced from China or sourced from Taiwan and made in China.

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DCaff300ZX
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RubyRed300ZX wrote:With the name Evergreen, pretty much guaranteed to be sourced from China or sourced from Taiwan and made in China.
This, and do not buy period as it may cost you your engine if the belt fails, or tensioner, or idler studs...unfortunately this is not an area where budget can rule the day because due to the VG30DE being an interference motor, tb failure is almost certain destruction of the valves and pistons. Myself, because the tb assembly is SO important, bought a race quality tb and tensioners and RameyZ studs for peace of mind and would NOT consider less under any circumstances.
I understand your financial situation and have been there several times, but here you need to find a way to get the right parts even if it means buying them a few at a time and waiting. Not doing so (poor quality cheap chinese crap parts) can possibly/probably land you in the same but now permanent situation of no working car, but now with a ruined motor on top of that so be warned...this is a very serious thing to consider.

willringo
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Thanks for the input, I cant tell you how much I appreciate the help. I was sketchy on the evergreen name, it's why I asked. so the last service was done at 79k at a nissan dealer, it has 126k on it now. Do you think it would be unwise to do the 60k service again with the hydraulic tensioner or is it better to wait and do the 120?

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DCaff300ZX
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The point is to do the timing belt since you have it all open, and it's due for change. To do the tb service you need tensioners, idler studs, tbelt and cam/main seals, and probably more (never done it myself).
The kits are complete, and list what they contain and all is necessary for a correct job...with upgraded RameyZ studs HIGHLY recommended for all Z32's, as tb failure is generally caused by studs breaking (most common) or tensioner failure before actual belt failure although all 3 happen often enough.

What I am trying to point out is that although the tb isn't causing a current problem and your finances dictate practicality in your work, that the Z32 ignores and laughs at practicality and FORCES the owner to more than consider certain maintenance situations, and will beat you senseless mentally and financially for failure to adhere to this reality and do the "necessary" work- work that truly is necessary, but isn't apparent in non-working status. Unfortunately there are plenty of hard luck stories from guys skipping things, so it's not just old wive's tales and the like.
Rest assured that proper maintenance especially from reputable sources will avoid all of the possible problems, and that lazy/cheap/ignorant maintenance work done with financial issues as the controlling factor is the major cause of most Z32 issues not related to age or abuse...what we are trying to help you avoid! :dblthumb:
We joke about Z32 ownership meaning Top Ramen and frozen pizzas, and it isn't because it isn't the truth in many ways given the parts costs and need, and especially labor costs if/when you can't do it yourself and the difficulty then even finding a reputable shop...it's Z32 reality, despite it's low cost and availability it's not a poor man's toy in ANY way! :chuckle:

willringo
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yeah I dig the importance of the timing belt and service. I was just curious on the importance of the 60 vs 120 service. Point is taken, like I said I appreciate the advice. I'm not lame, I'm just new to having a ZX.

spiffy
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How many YEARS ago since the last timing belt service? It's not all miles, parts deteriorate over time.
Use genuine Nissan or Gates timing belt and tensioners. The automatic tensioner can be reused but if its time for a 120 service then it should be replaced

skyline084
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I highly suggest what everyone else is saying here as well. I've never had a timing belt break on me, but I've had the studs for the idlers snap. Do yourself a favor and change out the idlers, belt, tensioner and studs. This way you don't have to rebuild two heads like I did, then replace the parts anyway.

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DCaff300ZX
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willringo wrote:yeah I dig the importance of the timing belt and service. I was just curious on the importance of the 60 vs 120 service. Point is taken, like I said I appreciate the advice. I'm not lame, I'm just new to having a ZX.
Sorry if it came across too strongly, but we do like to stress how important some things are that are able to be dealt with differently than nearly all other cars.
Obviously you are mechanically solid if you are even willing to take on the work on your Z, we want to be SURE you have the right plan in mind as you go about some difficult and important work.


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