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Just like the title says, as I sit and monitor our beloved CA forum, I feel prompted to ask the question "Did anyone purchase a CA18DET for it's performance or just to say they've wrenched one"? You'll have to look at it yourselves and say that there's very little discussion about drifting, drag racing, or autoXing with any vehicle with CA18DET installed. Does anyone plan on using it for anything other than a low hp, turbocharged daily comuter engine?

I feel bad because the only performance discussion is from our members across the big pond and that's more of a dyno thing, except for Cortina and his awesome 1/4 mile beast. If your car is up and running, get it to a track of some sort, so that we may have more compilations of performance succeses and failures.

I too have a responsibility and a reputation to upkeep in the performance ring. My CA powered vehicles have been down for quite a while at no fault of my own. I will start reassembly of my g/f's sentra's CA18DET after extensive machine work to include: line boring, new crank, new oil pump, new camshafts, and a few other goodies. So to my fellow moerators, you guys are responsible as well in this area. We need to give our junior members something to strive towards by sharing with them our successes and failures on and off the tracks.

I do make this promise that when I'm back on the block with the sentras, I aim to make it worth while and definitely worth reading about.

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Dude, I'll be at the track all the time when I put my motor in. Right now I am contemplating turbo setups... So far these are my options....

top mount manifoldT3/T04E 50-trim .48 housingTiAl 38mm wastegatecustom O2/DP

or....GT28RO2 housingDownpipe

I've been thinking the last day or so that since I need an O2 housing and a downpipe anyway, I may as well just go for the T3/T4 right out of the gate. I would worry much less about grenading a t3/t4 since they are almost half the price of a GT28R or GT2871R. Originally I was dead set on the 2871R as my choice, but the fact the supply is low and the demand is high, they are closing in on the $1200 mark! And $1200 for a turbo that cannot be rebuilt is not something I want to deal with. My only concern with the T3/T4 is response. The .48 housing shouldn't make the lag too bad... What do you guys think?

EDIT: Oh, and did I mention that topmount turbos look sexy?

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CAs suck Hopefully when I get soem personal issues taken care of I can do awriteup and picture post of the wife putting her engine together for her 180.

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themadscientist wrote:CAs suck Hopefully when I get soem personal issues taken care of I can do awriteup and picture post of the wife putting her engine together for her 180.
A picture of the wife putting her CA together would be priceless. And as for issues, I have plenty of them as well, so I know where you're coming from.

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c-rad wrote:Dude, I'll be at the track all the time when I put my motor in. Right now I am contemplating turbo setups... So far these are my options....

top mount manifoldT3/T04E 50-trim .48 housingTiAl 38mm wastegatecustom O2/DP

or....GT28RO2 housingDownpipe

I've been thinking the last day or so that since I need an O2 housing and a downpipe anyway, I may as well just go for the T3/T4 right out of the gate. I would worry much less about grenading a t3/t4 since they are almost half the price of a GT28R or GT2871R. Originally I was dead set on the 2871R as my choice, but the fact the supply is low and the demand is high, they are closing in on the $1200 mark! And $1200 for a turbo that cannot be rebuilt is not something I want to deal with. My only concern with the T3/T4 is response. The .48 housing shouldn't make the lag too bad... What do you guys think?

EDIT: Oh, and did I mention that topmount turbos look sexy?
I think a T3/T04B/E would serve the CA just fine. I have had the ultimate success with the T3/T04B stage 1 with a .63 rear housing. I am currently using the T3/T04E variants and of course they assist in what I need them for. I used to be into topend racing (150+mph) in which now i can't do anymore due to my near death experience in 2k2 racing a Ferarri. The .48 will serve you well {trust me on this one} .

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I thought it would be fun if she put her own engine together, I'm not going to touch it, just tell her what to do. The block is already machined for the Toda piston set, I have most of the gaskets and she is getting my 2.0mm Tomei head gasket, 256/264 degree HKS cams, full Emanage setup and HKS manifold with a T300S on it. She already has the HKS VPC, HKS intercooler my Trust R-type BOV and OS solid-hub twin plate in the car.

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sorrf if the pics are big...drift day 25 at california speed way (those are es100s back there lol)drifting 3rd gear at willow springs racewayalso at willow springs

http://rapidshare.de/files/236....htmlvid of weak 2nd gear donuts in the back of a chruch, at the end someone was coming over so i left i kknow it seems like a spin out lol

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holy crap first pic is huge sorry if anyone wants to resize it that would be cool

for the video just go here: http://www.240sxforums.com/for...57910

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boost_boy wrote: I think a T3/T04B/E would serve the CA just fine. I have had the ultimate success with the T3/T04B stage 1 with a .63 rear housing. I am currently using the T3/T04E variants and of course they assist in what I need them for. I used to be into topend racing (150+mph) in which now i can't do anymore due to my near death experience in 2k2 racing a Ferarri. The .48 will serve you well {trust me on this one} .

Dee
I found a good deal on the 50-trim for $475 so that's what really got the wheels turning in my head... I've got 550's on the way (again) and a Z32 MAF ready to go on as well, so I should be fine to support my goal of 300-325whp. Also, I think it would be nicer to make 300whp @ 14-15psi rather than 19-20 with a turbo such as the GT28R (if it will even MAKE 300whp).

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boost_boy wrote: If your car is up and running, get it to a track of some sort, so that we may have more compilations of performance succeses and failures.
Not exactly a trial and error story, but in my sig, I have a link to a vid to a lap I did at Nurburgring in my CA18 powered 200sx.

I get out to alot of events here in Germany, and will make it a note to do a few write-up's on the events we attend.

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whoa dude europe got shafted with automatic seatbetls too? just saw the pics in the sig link to nurburgring.. lol

I swapped in some manual belts courtesy of Canada.

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I think it would be nice if we could have maybe a tech and general in CA, but i know that would diffintely not happen..

I've ony had my car since november, and i got it stock, but i am slowly progressing up.. i guess it's a little easier to get small parts like s15 bb t28s, and things like that here, so it'll come one day...

keep up the good work guys, it's been fun, sometimes itimidating to be here.

Pete.

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biosehnsucht wrote:whoa dude europe got shafted with automatic seatbetls too? just saw the pics in the sig link to nurburgring.. lol

I swapped in some manual belts courtesy of Canada.
Nah, we have manual, you might have been looking at my friends 240.

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ok that makes more sense, guess he imported it via the armed services or something?

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boost_boy wrote: If your car is up and running, get it to a track of some sort, so that we may have more compilations of performance succeses and failures.



Dee
Well I only got one AutoX in last year--having had some "clutch" and work issues that are now resolved.

First AutoX this year --some old tires and bad driving kept me to a Third place finish.

2 weeks ago --1 st place in a regional event. --The nice thing was there were several people there drooling over the fact it was a CA and not an SR! (PS--I ran Kumho V710's --used--for the first time--just like a true racing slick--reminded me of my old 510 EP car)

Now 3-4 weeks ago, I was at Watkins Glen --but only got a few laps in due to my lousy fabrication job on Intercooler piping.--But when it ran--WOW --it is a screamer--with great handling. I cannot wait until I go back in August--and then Lime Rock in October.

As for street car vs track-AutoX car--I did the swap as I wanted a play car that I could drive on the street occasionally, as the old 510 was trailered only --not enough seat time.

How was that Dee??

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i wish i could get my CA completed but everytime i fix something i run into another problem. i bought my CA a little over a year ago and i just got it run perfectly stock a little bit ago but now the motor has been diagnosed with rod knock. hoorah. so once the necessary funds are put together i'll slap on all my aftermarket crapola which include but not limited to, tubular mani, external w/g, turbonetics custom tailored t3/t04b, hks adj. timing gears, 550cc injectors, safc2... yada yada yada. but for the moment the car only has a few gauges and an apex'i multi checker for diagnostic purposes. I know i jumped the gun a bit on the mods but the whole rod knock thing didn't show up 'till recently. lol i still love the engine though and i fully intend to have dyno and track #s posted as soon as i get the motor freshened up.

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You know, I agree with this being a CA tech forum, but thats what I thought it was originally.

I hope I dont flood this forum with my questions, but this is the first turbo motor I have owned, lolI would like to get this thing complete but I am still missing a flywheel, clutch, Intercooler and piping. Not to mention I still have to rebuild the turbo I will recieve this week.

Basicly, I need help! When it is completed, I will probably be busy painting the car for the track so I will be noticable from the masses of other 240's I see there from time to time. And it's funny because I bought this thing to be original 5 years ago... *sigh*

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One more bolt way (again) from having it in the car. I'll take it to Atco when its running stable and get a baseline. I'm aiming to best my friend's F-body (low 13s) for a starting goal.

2BN_S13, I have a stock flywheel I think I could part with if you really want it.

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Mine never ran well enough to take to the track I'm tracking my current car, but the last failed CA project sapped all my funds, one day I'll have another CA thts runs, and that;ll be tracked.

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ive auto-xed my pulsar about 4 times last summer and im going to start up again in 2 weeks this summer

here are some pics from last year

i only made it to the strip one time last summer i had an awesome time and my trap speeds of 106 mph lead me to believe that i daily drive a 12 second car

here some recent pics

new 3" side exit exhaust



this may not be to inspiring to the RWD kids but i know there are a few fwders that will enjoy

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I hate that body style so the fact that I am saying "Nice ride" is that powerful. Very sexy, how about some engine bay shots?

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thanks TMS it does mean alot :-)

here are a few bay shots

I dont want to turn this into my thread so lets see some other peoples cars in action!!!

but heres one more

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So you've got a RWD motor adapted to FWD?Or did you swap to a RWD TB, and is there an advantage to that over the stock top/over the engine one?

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how do those projectors work out?

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nocwage wrote:So you've got a RWD motor adapted to FWD?Or did you swap to a RWD TB, and is there an advantage to that over the stock top/over the engine one?
His motor is a FWD/AWD unit. The CA cam in the same configurations as the SR. As a matter of fact, his car came with a CA originally from factory.

Dee

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Okay, okay I got a good performance quickie: I just swapped a 4G61T into my 1995 Hyundai Elantra and am also using an eclipse SMIC that so perfectly tucked and hidden, that I'm impressed that I didn't have to pay anyone to make pipes. Thank go for those extra AWD CA18DET TMIC connecting pipes .

Dee

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dump the eclipse smic and pick up a supra smic. dsm smics blowand just out of curiousity why not the 4g63t?

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very sanitary car. The details make the difference.

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nismoplsr wrote:ive auto-xed my pulsar about 4 times last summer and im going to start up again in 2 weeks this summer

here are some pics from last year
Hey NismoPlsr --Who do you AutoX with --I do not recognize the site --is that the lot Fairfield County uses?

Do you run with NER at all up at Ayer?

DJ

PS --Nice looking car

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boost_boy wrote:His motor is a FWD/AWD unit. The CA cam in the same configurations as the SR. As a matter of fact, his car came with a CA originally from factory.

Dee
That I already knew,

for some reason though I thought ALL the fwd motors looked like this:

With the TB "above" the motor.


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