The CA/SR debate goes international

[themadscientist]

I stumbled across this Canadian board and I couldn't resist throwin up gangsignshttp://montrealracing.com/foru...58844

[c-rad]

Haha... 'lemadscientist'

[themadscientist]

caught that did ya?

[F3600]

hehe nice those guy are pro-sr20det anyway .. im from quebec and everyone here are pro-sr20 bling blling.its funny.i dont lose my time on this board anyway. Ps: Lemadscientist: the french touch is perfect

[themadscientist]

this thread kills me though because even though I can only read half of it I know what happenedhttp://montrealracing.com/foru...31465

[Dattebayo]

Well, you can read half mor than I can. Damn Frenchies... :angry

At least you the last word in.

[zero_gripS13]

both motors are the same.. there 4cylinder engines.. leave it at that...

there designed differently but both work.. whys it matter...people blow things upp too much

[themadscientist]

yeah chicks are the same too, two boobs, a butt, I don't see what the big deal is. Catherine Zeta Jones, Janet Reno, either one Yes people do like to argue about it but don't let the drama cloud the issue that they are not the same. If all Nissan four bangers are the same why do you want a CA? The KA is a four banger, same thing right? See what I mean?

[boost_boy]

both motors are the same.. there 4cylinder engines.. leave it at that...

there designed differently but both work.. whys it matter...people blow things upp too much

Dude, you make it seem so simple, but it's not. Both motors aren't the same. All 4 cylinder engines aren't the same because if they were, and with all the success the little honda B-series motors have achieved over the past couple of years, you would think everyone would want the same recipe for success; but they don't.

I personally don't like design of the SR20. I don't like the design of the KA nor the SR series motors. I don't like Vtec. I don't like timing chains. I don't like rocker arms.I don't like alloy blocks.

I do like nissan some nissan engines.I do like timing belts.I do like cast iron blocks.I do like nissan's belt driven engines and they need no introduction (RB, VG,CA,etc,etc).I do like engines that are natural revvers, not engines that use camshaft trickery.

I hope this helps you understand that just because it's a 4 cylinder, they are not all the same. Different displacement gives different torque and hp figures at a different rpm band. Different strokes for different folks. And that's a very good question, why do you like the CA and you know very little about it?

Hey zero_gripS13, you may not want to get too fancy at the key strokes because you are in your learning stages around here and what you say can and will be used against you; especially if you if you want to be CA literate.

Dee

[zero_gripS13]

wow u guys totally mis understood,..,

i ment there both four cylinders, but both are designed differently...choose which one suite ur style.....

i feel the same way why u think i decided to go ca.. i dont like timing chains,, i dont trust alloy blocks, i like timing belts, not a fan of rocker arms...

[CA19DET]

i like both, and thats that... i wrench on both with friends.. some of their SR's spank my CA rotten, and i spank the rest of the SR's who are still playing catch up with the big SR's around town..

CA's are just starting to get annoying to find/get parts for (allot of manufacturers have stopped making parts for them and will only do custom ordered), thats all.. sorry to say, but i am trying to buy a S15 Spec R Aero if i can get my CA S13 sold, and i will NOT be tossing the SR20DET for a CA18DET... the newer SR's are much better engines IMO, very very smooth, loads of touque, the 6 speed is nice, the stock turbo is great.. love them..

when you work on and see both of them run agianst eachother all the time. you soon appreciate the finer points of both.. my CA gets some respect around drags, allot fo SR guys want to race me to compare, and allot of if not all the honda/toyota/mitsubishi guys always think i am running a SR20. but thats because i dumped money into my enigne, the stock CA's around town get their arse torn up... and the truth is you really dont usually see CA's beating SR's when they have equal mods... but i love my lil ca's, they are so cute.

[themadscientist]

cAs seem to have a threshold that below it they are a tick behind SRs as far as power but once you pass it they give as good as they get, they are more expensive to build IMO. SRs seem to give instant gratification but at a certain point start getting exponentially more expensive to get to the next level.

[flohtingPoint]

cAs seem to have a threshold that below it they are a tick behind SRs as far as power but once you pass it they give as good as they get, they are more expensive to build IMO. SRs seem to give instant gratification but at a certain point start getting exponentially more expensive to get to the next level.

Totally agree there Brother. Being an owner of both atm (SR first though), I'm leaning twards selling my SR when I get back to the states and putting in one of these spare CA's into my coupe in the states and building up from there. The whole experience of tearing apart several of these motors has been quite uplifting, especially from a guy who's had to deal with SR's for quite some time.

[CA19DET]

cAs seem to have a threshold that below it they are a tick behind SRs as far as power but once you pass it they give as good as they get, they are more expensive to build IMO. SRs seem to give instant gratification but at a certain point start getting exponentially more expensive to get to the next level.

couldnt have said it better

[themadscientist]

Totally agree there Brother. Being an owner of both atm (SR first though), I'm leaning twards selling my SR when I get back to the states and putting in one of these spare CA's into my coupe in the states and building up from there. The whole experience of tearing apart several of these motors has been quite uplifting, especially from a guy who's had to deal with SR's for quite some time.

Floht, what's the chance you could supply the mad-one with a euro-spec four port head and a manifold? Fire me an e-mail if you are interested.

[Dattebayo]

I am interested as well...

damn you , mad, for putting the idea into my head. It has to flow better though.