TCS can get u in trouble

[pcpower]

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It's good for safe driving though,,,

but say u r at a stop sign and are taking a right, and ur going to sorta cut off the car which is oncoming from a short distance down the road (I think everyone has done this once, when the other car was driving extremely slow and you just couldn't wait any longer...).

Then there's apparently a small puddle of snow/ice on the ground, and the TCS kicks in, and the engine won't rev over 2000 RPMs. lol... not only have you cut off the car, but you've been extra annoying by doing so as the coupe is only traveling 5 mph through the puddle... lol...

Good thing the a/c can take off as soon the TCS turns off..!!

Just a general observation, thought it might be interesting to share.

[johnny_d]

i used to drive a camry and had my wheels spun several time when turning right from a stop sign over wet pavement too fast so now i'm just a bit weary, better be safe than sorry

[spike228]

TCS and ABS....two things that I am glad that my Altima lacks. I like having my foot do everything.

[TheBourneAltimatum]

TCS and ABS....two things that I am glad that my Altima lacks. I like having my foot do everything.

ABS is a good thing though. what if your brakes look up

[GreyZone]

TCS and ABS....two things that I am glad that my Altima lacks. I like having my foot do everything.

Amen to that, TCS free...no VDC for me...dont want nutin controlling the car, cept for me

[spike228]

I've learned how to brake on a race track with a 91 Supra (no ABS). It will be a cold day in hell before I lock the brakes in my Altima after several close calls in that Supra.

[08altima35]

the vdc is a very good option and works very well for the car. if you're making a right turn and tires slip it shuts down power only to the spinning tire or tire's. your power to the tires is restored so quickly that you barely miss a beat. when racing i recommend turing off the vdc because regardless of tire slip you don't loose any power. but saying it's not good for anything is just ignorance. many people have crashed and some died because there car is in cruise control and they hit something slippery like oil, ice, snow, water, etc. To anyone who uses cruise control the vdc is a very good safety option. The tires will not spin if you come across something in the road that will cause your tires to loose traction and control. i always keep the vdc on unless i'm racing or feel like having fun.

[mcheddadi]

Traction Control System (TCS)

•TCS is standard on the 3.5SE.

•The traction control system reduces torque to the drive wheels by altering injector pulse and controlling the Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) motor. If necessary, the brakes are also pulsed via the ABS control unit and hydraulic unit to reduce slipping.

–For injector pulse and ETC functions, the ECM receives wheel slip information from the ABS control unit through the Controller Area Network (CAN) bus.

TCS operates at all speeds and limits drive-wheel slip (wheel spin) under most conditions, improving driver control of the vehicle in slippery conditions as well as on dry surfaces if throttle is over-applied.

Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC)with TCS and ABS

•The VDC system is optional only on the 3.5SE. The system integrates ABS and TCS with additional cornering controls.

•The VDC control functions (integrated into the ABS control unit) monitor the input from steering wheel angle, vehicle speed, wheel speed, G-force and yaw rate.

•When vehicle stability is affected by road conditions or the need to make an emergency maneuver, the system helps to maintain optimum speed at each wheel.

•The system controls engine output by reducing fuel and throttle opening,and provides individual braking control for each wheel to reduce or prevent skidding.

VDC changes engine power and/or applies the brakes individually as necessary to help stabilize the vehicle in severe turning situations. VDC helps enhance performance in emergency avoidance maneuvers, helps improve vehicle directional stability, and helps provide improved control even on slippery road surfaces.



TCS & VDC FTW

[spike228]

All the driver needs is a little common sense and attention to avoid accidents. I would think that adding technologies to prevent people from crashing would cause more people to become careless because they think that the car drives itself...

You'd be surprised at the kind of crap I've seen people do.

[Mr. Music]

Yeah, too many people already think that cars drive themselves. All in all, a limited slip differential (with no wiz-bang computer jazz) would definitely help.

[spike228]

Agreed, I think torque steer is more dangerous for the average driver when there is a sudden need for power (like to avoid getting rear ended on a freeway merge). An LSD would definitely make it safer.

IMO, things like the automatic transmission and cruise control should have never been invented for the average driver. It seems that those are the 2 things that most careless drivers take advantage of. You can't talk on the phone if you are shifting, and you can drive if you don't know how to drive stick.

[guitarmn07]

... You can't talk on the phone if you are shifting, and you can drive if you don't know how to drive stick.

haha, amen to that!

I usually turn off TCS when I'm in the city... but after I've merged on a highway, I usually turn it back on... but lately I'm starting to drive with the TCS off all the time...

[Vet Boots]

If I'm coming down the road on my Harley please don't pull out in front of me. I don't think I could survive another crash like that. Be patient and wait your turn. Whats a few seconds when peoples' lives are in danger.

[crystale]

How do you turn off your TCS. I see a button for the VDC but not the TCS?

[mcheddadi]

How do you turn off your TCS. I see a button for the VDC but not the TCS?

Like I said in THIS thread already, "The system (VDC) integrates ABS and TCS with additional cornering controls."

So basicly VDC = TCS + more stuff.

refer to my earlier post for to see what's the extra stuff.

[TheBourneAltimatum]

How do you turn off your TCS. I see a button for the VDC but not the TCS?

[adidas2go]

Although I turn off the TCS the car still tries to control itself. So its raining and i turn of the TCS, go around a corner and gun it. The engine still bogs down and the car slows. Does this happen to anyone else? Also i learned that if you hold the button for 10 seconds and it doesnt allow you to dissengage it anymore. wierd.

[shift_mikey]

Then there's apparently a small puddle of snow/ice on the ground, and the TCS kicks in, and the engine won't rev over 2000 RPMs.

Your right, lets just let the avg driver cut the corner, nail the gas, and have wheel spin that is so bad, they can't even keep the car straight. At the same time they won't move anywhere because ALL OF THE CARS POWER is being applied to the slipping wheel. At least with TCS/VDC it allows a controlled method of power to still get to the ground and will be ready for the wheel to regain traction.

I love having VDC and ABS, it makes me feel that in a panic and emergency situation, it just may help me out.

You can't talk on the phone if you are shifting, and you can drive if you don't know how to drive stick.

If you can't talk on the phone while you drive a standard shift vehicle, then you really can't drive a standard shift vehicle! I used to have no problem shifting/wheeling with one hand/knee and holding the phone with my other.