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Mcguyver_3 wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 7:38 amTake a look at the wiring diagrams I posted. There are 2 separate camera connections
Camera V+
CaMera GND -
DO NOT USE THESE
further down you will see
Camera comp +
Camera comp shield
Use those for camera hook up
The 16/17 does NOT have
V CAN
BUT...
Hook it up to regular
Can
This will make reverse, camera, illumination regain full functionality. At least it did on mine. I’m having trouble with apple car play
Hey, it’s been well documented here:kingxavier24 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:01 pmHey there everyone! I have a 2016 Rogue SV with the factory Navigation and the 360 birds eye camera. I am wanting to replace the head unit with one from a 2018 so I can get the extra features and carplay etc.
I have looked everywhere and can not find this being done. I do know that the Harness is bigger in the 2018 and can not find that harness on the internet anywhere.
I am wondering if this is something that can be done and if anyone else on here has attempted to do this.
Thanks!
Thank you for this info. I got a 2019 NAV radio to work in my 2017 SL. Just to add for everyone's benefit - I got the 40 pin connector from a Maxima BCM (I think most Nissan BCM are 40pin). I also got the 24pin male and female out of a Murano (behind the in cabin fuse panel lower left of steering column area). You will also need the 8 pin connector for the TCU IN+ and TCU IN- and DCM SHIELD. This 8 pin connector can be cut out from the circuit board of most old Rogue radios (where the telephone bluetooth interface is on the back). I also cut the 20pin connector out from this circuit board and soldered the needed wires to it. Folks - you will need soldering skills. Got all wires/connectors from the junkyard to save$$$. In the end it all works! I use Android Auto.Mcguyver_3 wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 8:04 amNew member,
PLEASE EXCUSE THE LONG WRITE UP
but I do have very exciting news on this front.
I just finished this conversion. Still waiting on an antenna adapter for radio, but that’s not all that important to me.
What you’ll need
1) 19 radio with nav
2) 40 pin female side connnector for the 19 radio. (picked on up at the scrapper out of a 04-07 Murano comfort access module that sits on the passenger side behind the glovebox. Cut it off with a good chunk of wiring to make a conversion harness.)
3) The 20 pin female side connector for the 19 radio. Again, cut it out of a scrapper car with as much wiring as I could. Relatively easy to find as I believe it’s in every Nissan from 07 and up.
4) 20 pin aftermarket radio adapter. Super easy to track down. Again 07 and on is pretty generic.
5) the antenna adapter, they decided that between 17-18, to make the antenna connector slightly more narrow. This doesn’t allow the antenna connector to fit. I have new ones on order that I will modify to make work.
6) 24 pin male side connector. Initially I picked up a piece from digikey, I used loose pins, heatshrinked them and put them in their designated location. Problem when trying to instal the harness, is that the pins tried backing off. So I ordered a Axxess AS-toycam3 Toyota conversion harness for rear view camera retention. Same 24 pin connector as the Nissan. Has a male and female side which I was hoping to utilize the solid wire. Unfortunately, the female pins are different on the aftermarket harness over the OEM 40 pin. But a little bit of splicing and soldering, got the job done.
7) wiring diagrams between both 14-17 and an 18/19. Because I work in the industry, that was not a problem. I am happy to post them if you would like. The only thing that threw me off was that the 14-17 had CAN and M CAN running to the headunit and the 18 has M and V CAN running to it. The M CAN is the important one because of the terminating resistors. After connecting CAN to V CAN illumination and and another function regained normal operation. The 14-17 has a speed sensor wire which is no longer applicable on the newer units. And the 18/19 also has a wire that is not applicable on the older models. But with much tinkering, the system works.
8) USB port for apple car play, currently I am still figuring this out. The phone is plugged in, connects and drops instantly. After 10 attempts... it fails and also does not charge the phone either. The port I have is obviously from an early model. The company called Molex designs our USB ports and there seems to be something extremely fancy about the 18 and up USB ports. What I have found In the wiring diagrams is that the configuration of wiring is setup differently and I’m guessing the port rearranges it in some way to make car play work. The newer ones have a red illumination ring where the early ones don’t. Still in progress. The ports are 260$ CDN which is crazy. I have ordered one off eBay that I managed to scoop up for about 80$ CDN. Awaiting its arrival.
9) 17 and up gauge cluster. The steering controls go from steering wheel, translated by the cluster and sent to the radio. The reason I learned this is because I fitted a 17 steering wheel with heater in mine and the radio steering controls were completely out to lunch. I managed to track down a cluster with higher mileage than mine and drove mine until the mileage was a near match. Then swapped clusters.
9) 17 and up D shaped steering wheel. Why? The steering controls go through the cluster to the radio and as mentioned above, 14-16 do not compute with 17 and up.
So, in conclusion, it does work, lots of modification and tinkering is required, but it is a fully functioning system.
joeyo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:09 pmThank you for this info. I got a 2019 NAV radio to work in my 2017 SL. Just to add for everyone's benefit - I got the 40 pin connector from a Maxima BCM (I think most Nissan BCM are 40pin). I also got the 24pin male and female out of a Murano (behind the in cabin fuse panel lower left of steering column area). You will also need the 8 pin connector for the TCU IN+ and TCU IN- and DCM SHIELD. This 8 pin connector can be cut out from the circuit board of most old Rogue radios (where the telephone bluetooth interface is on the back). I also cut the 20pin connector out from this circuit board and soldered the needed wires to it. Folks - you will need soldering skills. Got all wires/connectors from the junkyard to save$$$. In the end it all works! I use Android Auto.Mcguyver_3 wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 8:04 amNew member,
PLEASE EXCUSE THE LONG WRITE UP
but I do have very exciting news on this front.
I just finished this conversion. Still waiting on an antenna adapter for radio, but that’s not all that important to me.
What you’ll need
1) 19 radio with nav
2) 40 pin female side connnector for the 19 radio. (picked on up at the scrapper out of a 04-07 Murano comfort access module that sits on the passenger side behind the glovebox. Cut it off with a good chunk of wiring to make a conversion harness.)
3) The 20 pin female side connector for the 19 radio. Again, cut it out of a scrapper car with as much wiring as I could. Relatively easy to find as I believe it’s in every Nissan from 07 and up.
4) 20 pin aftermarket radio adapter. Super easy to track down. Again 07 and on is pretty generic.
5) the antenna adapter, they decided that between 17-18, to make the antenna connector slightly more narrow. This doesn’t allow the antenna connector to fit. I have new ones on order that I will modify to make work.
6) 24 pin male side connector. Initially I picked up a piece from digikey, I used loose pins, heatshrinked them and put them in their designated location. Problem when trying to instal the harness, is that the pins tried backing off. So I ordered a Axxess AS-toycam3 Toyota conversion harness for rear view camera retention. Same 24 pin connector as the Nissan. Has a male and female side which I was hoping to utilize the solid wire. Unfortunately, the female pins are different on the aftermarket harness over the OEM 40 pin. But a little bit of splicing and soldering, got the job done.
7) wiring diagrams between both 14-17 and an 18/19. Because I work in the industry, that was not a problem. I am happy to post them if you would like. The only thing that threw me off was that the 14-17 had CAN and M CAN running to the headunit and the 18 has M and V CAN running to it. The M CAN is the important one because of the terminating resistors. After connecting CAN to V CAN illumination and and another function regained normal operation. The 14-17 has a speed sensor wire which is no longer applicable on the newer units. And the 18/19 also has a wire that is not applicable on the older models. But with much tinkering, the system works.
8) USB port for apple car play, currently I am still figuring this out. The phone is plugged in, connects and drops instantly. After 10 attempts... it fails and also does not charge the phone either. The port I have is obviously from an early model. The company called Molex designs our USB ports and there seems to be something extremely fancy about the 18 and up USB ports. What I have found In the wiring diagrams is that the configuration of wiring is setup differently and I’m guessing the port rearranges it in some way to make car play work. The newer ones have a red illumination ring where the early ones don’t. Still in progress. The ports are 260$ CDN which is crazy. I have ordered one off eBay that I managed to scoop up for about 80$ CDN. Awaiting its arrival.
9) 17 and up gauge cluster. The steering controls go from steering wheel, translated by the cluster and sent to the radio. The reason I learned this is because I fitted a 17 steering wheel with heater in mine and the radio steering controls were completely out to lunch. I managed to track down a cluster with higher mileage than mine and drove mine until the mileage was a near match. Then swapped clusters.
9) 17 and up D shaped steering wheel. Why? The steering controls go through the cluster to the radio and as mentioned above, 14-16 do not compute with 17 and up.
So, in conclusion, it does work, lots of modification and tinkering is required, but it is a fully functioning system.
Why does the AWD/FWD version matter for the radio? Anyway its going into a '17 SL AWD so I'll try and find one thats just a '18 SL AWD. Is it possible to program an '18 HU "w/o Bose" to be with Bose even tho I'd prefer not to?VStar650CL wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:40 amBose isn't a separate p/n, it's a configuration setting that can be changed by the dealer. The Bose amps are traditional "dumbware" types that simply amplify the analog channels from the head unit, so in a Bose configuration the H/U simply dials its volume way down.
The following items on an '18 need to be configured:
ENGINE - HEV / Normal
AXLE - FWD / AWD
NAVI - With / Without
SOUND - 4-Speaker / 6-Speaker / Bose
CAMERA - Rear Only / AVM
A/C - Auto / Manual
You're correct that the Blue coaxial is GPS and the Pink is SXM.
Would you be able to show me what that part of the FSM says?VStar650CL wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:23 pmYou can set the config options to whatever equipment the car has, but it takes scanner software with the proper work support to write it. I don't really know why the drive type matters, maybe it's something different in the graphics. The FSM lists the option.