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is there any superchargers available for the 240sx? what are the gains if there are? if so, how much do they cost?


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matt4pl wrote:is there any superchargers available for the 240sx? what are the gains if there are? if so, how much do they cost?


ummm.... let me tell you a little secret...

SEARCH!!!

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Black240 wrote:ummm.... let me tell you a little secret...

SEARCH!!!


You could have just as easily typed YES or NO.

Matt, to answer your question there are no "kits" designed for the 240sx that I've heard of. Though I believe someone is trying to put a supercharger in their 240sx.

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C-Kwik wrote:You could have just as easily typed YES or NO.

Matt, to answer your question there are no "kits" designed for the 240sx that I've heard of. Though I believe someone is trying to put a supercharger in their 240sx.


If I could have then I would have done so! =)

the devil made me do it!

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so if I am reading you right, you are saying search?:yesnod

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i found out that there are kits that would work for the ka24de engine. they are from pwoerdyne, i think. i fond this on a diffrent post on this site. now, about boost, they got 6 and 9 lbs kits but is it safe to run 9 lbs on a stock engine? I dont want to pay for a turbo, and i dont need that much power. i alos dont have the car yet, so cant do anything, i'd need to save up about 1800 for a supercharger kit, and if i get the higher boost, i'd need to build the engine

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Pro Charger makes a universal kit for imports!! :)

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Why not just get a turbo? I can't think of any really good reason to go with supercharging on a KA..

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Low End Torque!! There's one reason for ya pball :)

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There is this company in NY called Ripp Modifications. They were looking for a 240SX to test their new supercharger kit on, check them out at http://www.rippmods.com

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They use a Vortech blower. I am not a big Vortech fan and I'd rather have a self-contained unit, i.e. Pro Charger's C-1. The parts that will come with the kit, there are some I'd change. I just wanna Pro Charger :)

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I sure wouldn't buy a $3000 product from a guy who spells that bad!

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YOU'RE FUNNY

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this is asked twice a week. lets make the forum so you have to search before you can make a post, that would help, heh

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cory2081 wrote:Low End Torque!! There's one reason for ya pball :)


Rrrright... a well matched turbocharger will output more "low-end" power than a blower simply due to the blower needing to be revved to produce ample enough airflow to create boost.

You can of course put a huge pulley on the blower and make it make 3 psi at 1500 rpms or something but you can also put a K03 on a KA and have that thing spool at idle.

The only percievable gain I can see on a blower is it's on/off boost on throttle and it's progressive power curve (only good if you can't get traction).

Even the famed redneck mag Hotrod tested a Turbocharger, Roots, and a Cent. Blower and the Turbo produced 5.x lbs. of boost at 2500 compaired to the ~1.5 given by the blowers.

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oh really, Nismo Freak, is that a fact?? Well, that's funny, I installed a Pro Charger kit with intercooler on my brother in laws 98 Mustang GT. It pushes 11 PSI, the boost is almost instant. My friend has a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, his boost IS an instant 11 PSI. My GN didn't reach full boost til about 3,500, and it had a 9 inch 3,000rpm stall converter with a Jon Craig TE-61. I don't know who's superchargers Hot Rod mag tested, they must have been made by APC!! I don't see turbos being used in NHRA dragsters making 6,000 HP.....they use roots blowers. :)

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Actually, the superchargers were all popular units...I believe the roots style was a weiand (a small one at that) and the centrifugal was a vortech or powerdyne. I'll have to check the article again when I'm at home but I know for a fact they were all popular units that are used often in domestic supercharging. The centrifugal made more peak horsepower but when you looked at the area under the curve the turbo kicked it's butt. The roots style just plain got owned.

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i was being sarcastic about the APC comment. I realize that they were probably brand name blowers. You people stick to your hot air turbos and import tuner mag, and I'll go supercharge my 240 using a Pro Charger.

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i guess we'll see huh?

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I could see why ppl want a supercharger over a turbo. If I could have a supercharged KA, or a turbo KA, I'd take the supercharger. You guys have to realize something, not everybody goes to the track and races everywhere. I would take the supercharger because it’s instant, all ways going, and can still work with bolt-on, and not as MUCH maintenance as a turbo. I realize that a supercharger doesn't give as much power, but that’s ok because I myself just want a little more power.

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YES,there are superchargers for the 240sx.Goto http://www.boosthead.comThe ESC supercharger there for the 240sx runs off auxillary batteries instead of the motor itself.It gives you 15 second bursts of instant horepower, at 0% parasitic power loss.I am running one on my 1995 KA powered 240sx/silvia conversion with headers,exhaust,intake,and chip,and running 200 hp.The supercharger jumps that to 354 hp for me.Not bad for power when you need it.Check out the site ,and you will be drooling for days.The ESC has different size units for many car applications.I hope that helps you alot......:ylsuper

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do u have dyno sheets to see that bcuz if thats true where do i sign hahaha

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I second that!

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Wow, this was one moldy old thread.

Anyway, we've briefly touched on this one before...

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....night

I see your old thread and raise you one slightly newer old thread!

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Wow, I hope you have a dyno sheet to prove those figures, esp considering the stock MAFS is only good to around 270hp, and the fuel system of the stock SR, which has larger injectors, craps out at about that same HP level. You could be pushing 20lbs of boost, but with a stock fuel system, you're not getting past 270ish hp. Until I see numbers, and a picture of your fuel system, I call BS. I don't want to sound like a ****, but having only 4 posts, then coming on here and posting some insane numbers, doesn't gain my confidence.

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^^^I agree. Give us some proof.

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woah, I want one

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eh

more weight and short burst of power, go turbo kids.

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but 15 secs it great when its only used for a drag strip. Other than that then I would go with the turbo also.

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cory2081 wrote:oh really, Nismo Freak, is that a fact?? Well, that's funny, I installed a Pro Charger kit with intercooler on my brother in laws 98 Mustang GT. It pushes 11 PSI, the boost is almost instant. My friend has a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, his boost IS an instant 11 PSI. My GN didn't reach full boost til about 3,500, and it had a 9 inch 3,000rpm stall converter with a Jon Craig TE-61. I don't know who's superchargers Hot Rod mag tested, they must have been made by APC!! I don't see turbos being used in NHRA dragsters making 6,000 HP.....they use roots blowers. :)


actually, some NHRA test models were turbocharged, and they proved very efficient. i wouldnt debate the whole supercharger vs. turbocharger NHRA thing. it has time and time again been proven that turbochargers are just as good, as long as it is implemented correctly. infact, the turbocharged versions of these cars did beat some of the supercharged versions. read up on it, i bet you can find an article easily. i had one in my favorites but i am recovering from 60 gigs of data loss, so i cant put links to back up my words, but i assure you, it has been done. with so much technology today, its very easy to make anything that works on SIMILAR principles to be just as good as everything else it is competing with. if i have the time this weekend (big graphic design project ahead) i will try and find a link for you.

and just incase you dont know (i dont know you very well, or anyone on these boards for that matter), NHRA cars. whether turbo or supercharged, are restricted in hp. read up on the Bud King if you have a chance. 7000 hp, and still climbing.


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