street racing

[yellow_jacket]

Two stupid street racers killed a 61 year old grandmother this weekend in ATL. They are also in critical condition. Be careful out there and keep in on the track!

[maxpower]

ok. key word there is "stupid"

street racing is fun AND can be done safely.

[yellow_jacket]

Street racing will never be safe because you cannot control who is coming, what is on the road(dirt, oil, rocks, car parts etc.), animals, and lastly people walking down the road or broken down in the middle of the road with no lights on. Maybe if you were in the middle of the desert with the road blocked off and scouted out, then maybe. But very rarely do people do that.

Oh, and the drivers are also being charged with manslaughter.

[red240ne]

There was a bad incident here in Lincoln a week and a half ago. This guy that my friend knows really well was driving down the busiest street in Lincoln going 80+mph. (During 5:00 traffic.)

He lost control of his Mustang and jumped the median and hit a Ford Aspire head on. He put himself and the driver of the Aspire in critical condition. His skull was crushed in the back and he was in a coma. The Aspire driver had numerous broken bones.

That Mustang driver was always being stupid. He pisses me off. I went to middle school with him and everyone at my middle school hated him. He was one of the kids to always pick fights.:rolleyes Oh yea, he had also received like 4 tickets in the previous 2 months before this accident.

[Rockenreno]

I have a close friend who may be going to jail for street racing. He was at the local street racing place and a guy on a motorcycle wanted to race him. Unfortunately, this guy got his motorcycle just a few days earlier and it was completely overpowered for him. My friend was ahead for a while, but then the motorcycle passed him and lost control of his bike, leading him into a 2' thick concrete sign at over 120 mph. His body cracked the sign in half and the bike chipped off a corner. Needless to say, the guy is dead and my friend is charged with felony hit and run and vehicular manslaughter. I think he is taking the DA's offer for 1 year for vehicular manslaughter because they will get him on hit and run (but probably not vehicular manslaughter since it wasn't really his fault the guy crashed because they never collided or anything) which carries a minimum of 2 years. Either way he is going to jail it appears... I think he finally learned his lesson, but at his first time at the legal track he blew out his synchros in second gear, guy just can't catch a break.

I, for one, am not going to those races again. I am also never buying a motorcycle;)

Street racing has dire consequences... keep it where it belongs.

[skydragoness]

well said. legal racing events keep variables that yellow jacket mentioned under tight control. and have emergency vehicles standing by if anything should happen. i cannot understand why the consequences of street racing aren't enough to make people go to these legal and *fun* events. they're there for a reason.

[BB Turbo]

Hmmm.....just last saturday, 2 bikers raced against eachother, and then this one gold accord came out and was trying to leave, but the bikers were already over 100 mph, well, the biker who was winning smacked the front passenger side, the bike flipped about 3 times, and the guy flipped twice, the bike landed on him, his collarbone was at his ear, and he was in convulsions, his friends, fell off his bike andjust had scrapes, he was alright, but i think the other guy died. Oh yeah, the guy who hit them, left, he never came back.

You cant stop street racing, many people have died before them, many will die after, there will always be stupid people that are high or drunk, or just dont know how to drive, unfortunately, s*** happens. Whenever i go, i spectate, although the accident i watched first hand like that, changed my mind about bikes, and street racing in general. Yeah, i will watch the races, but youll never catch me dead actually racing against anybody.

[SeVa-S13]

Just don't street race. It's that simple. If you can control your stupidity though, atleast find a nice, desolate, straight road. Very hard to find but worth it if you really need to show whose got the bigger peen. :rolleyes

[maxpower]

heh

while there's not much to laugh about when it comes to broken collar bones, twisted spines and flying dead grandmothers, i find it funny that you're all preaching out of a track handbook; come on, neither of you guys, or girls, have ever done a quick drag race from a sto light? or sped twice the speed limit around a corner trying to loose the ricerboy on your tail..?

:bsflag

[ninjak84]

The same conversation.... over, and over.....

[maxpower]

i missed the others...

[89sxRCR]

heh

while there's not much to laugh about when it comes to broken collar bones, twisted spines and flying dead grandmothers, i find it funny that you're all preaching out of a track handbook; come on, neither of you guys, or girls, have ever done a quick drag race from a sto light? or sped twice the speed limit around a corner trying to loose the ricerboy on your tail..?

:bsflag

yeah i have done that around a corner, ended up almost crashing through the freeway divider. Point is you are NAIVE and IGNORANT to continue street racing in the face of all this evidence and say its not dangerous...at high speeds a car needs very little to send it out of control. And the thought of a teenager who "knows it all" doing all of this is just a little bit scary also...if you want to experiment go to a track. the only people who are going to agree with you here are going to be OTHER know it all 16 year olds...

[maxpower]

you're right on track with the naive and ignorant part

[Bubba1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by maxpower "]heh

while there's not much to laugh about when it comes to broken collar bones, twisted spines and flying dead grandmothers, i find it funny that you're all preaching out of a track handbook; come on, neither of you guys, or girls, have ever done a quick drag race from a sto light?

Nope. never have. It's stupid, dangerous and illegal. I almost got killed by street racer, by crossing an intersection where an impromptu race came right at me that I didn't see until too late.

or sped twice the speed limit around a corner trying to loose the ricerboy on your tail..?

Nope. If a ricer boy wants to race me, I decline and let him go by. I actually do race, but only at tracks. No desire to act like a moron. I hope it doesn't take an accident of your own to make you understand how bad street racing is...

[Stock-S13]

maxpower, in all honestly i think people like you give young enthusiasts as my self a bad name with your obligitory comments about Street Racing. they come to the conclusion that "He Must be 16." I conclude that not all Ignorant people are young, i just like Bubba let them go ahead, i say waste your gas and put your life in danger.. i'll just be on my way. also why would you even consider wasting money (ie: gas) on a person you despise? or what you have Lead people to believe?

Edgar

[SilviaLuvr]

D head pure D head yo! wathc the ___hole street race blow out a tire or hit a patch of oil hit somebody's G/F or B/F or sister or brother get arrested for attempted mansluater adn then get ticked like crazy and face up to about 15 yrs in jail (your vehicla can be consider a weapon espeacially if your racing and hit someone and you serioiusly injure them) but thats right, it will never happen to you, so what do you have to worry about. you'll just contuine to race, contuine to scar are name because you haev no respect for others on the road, continue to put others in danger. you will contuine to "out run" the cops "out smart" the cops until they pull you over an hit you wit a (atleast in philly) $500 ticket and take your car. But that will never happen to you right since your name is "MAXPOWER" big bad "STREET RACER"

yeah i did once speed until i saw first hand acorvette fly by me doing 105 and thne cutting me off and making an eclipse loss control and spin out 3 times inches in front of my bumper into the median, some ___hole in a brand new jetta kill a man on the highway and the only thing he was doing was going to the trunk of his car to get a spare tire after i try to indicate that there was another car in front of him by getting in front of him and driving as slow as possible. yeha so don't even try and tell me that i didn't ever speed.

[hopesfallhxc]

Two stupid street racers killed a 61 year old grandmother this weekend in ATL. They are also in critical condition. Be careful out there and keep in on the track!

I just recently found out tha those "stupid street racers" were very good friends of my best friend and now es on a plane to Georgia. The driver is in a coma, and her b/f died instantly. Supposedly(sp?) her vertebre is broken along with other serious injuries. If she happens to make it out alive she well be brain damaged and crippled for the rest of her life and have to live with the fact of killing 4(not exactly sure if its 4, but something like that) people, plus she well most likely have to go to jail for vehicle manslaughter.

Street racing sucks.

I pray to god that they werent street racing and it was something the media made up. It happened last summer with a couple friends of mine that died in a car wreck. The media automatically assummed they were street racing becasue they were young teens... comes to find out it was becasue there was construction on that road and there was debre and sand that caused them to loose control.

keep the roads safe.

[Phax]

ok. key word there is "stupid"

street racing is fun AND can be done safely.

:bsflag

Just because you haven't wrecked your car yet, doesn't mean that what you're doing is safe. A guy once made the point that automobile racing is the last true gladitorial sport left, because it's the only one where the participants die on a fairly regular basis. Stop and think about that one for a second, and while you're thinking about it, realize that on the streets, there is no room for error.

Forget about the other cars for a second, and the people who could be crossing the road, and the less than ideal road conditions (potholes, water, etc). As soon as all four of those tires lose contact with the pavement, you're straight up F U C K E D!!! No matter how good you think your car control skills are, you WILL NOT catch it before you smack into something (light pole, curb, guard rail, parked car, extend nearly infinite list of solid objects here..)

I used to street race all the time... actually, I would freeway race. I used to think it was cool to "beat" Porsches and other cars, by weaving through traffic at insane rates of speed. I knew that I was okay, because I was the better driver and my car was dialed in and I knew what I was doing. I never lost it street racing, or took anyone out.

I got over being a F U C K I N G M O R O N on the streets, after an accident that I got in, going with the flow of rush hour traffic (35 mph). A minivan cut me off and I had to swerve to avoid it. Despite having a fully tuned suspension and a good 20 or so hours of track time under my belt, the minivan changed lanes so suddenly, and I had to cut the wheel so severely, that I bounced off the center divider and then slid all the way across four lanes to the other side of the freeway. It was an every day situation that could have happened to anyone. And after realizing that it was possible to get into an accident while driving "safely", in heavy traffic at 30 miles BELOW the speed limit... it made me look back at all the times when I was in severely more extreme situations, and made me realize how lucky I was to not have wrecked it.

It's threads like these, that make me in favor of raising the legal driving age to 21. Kids just don't realize how dangerous automobiles are.

[ninjak84]

Just because you haven't wrecked your car yet, doesn't mean that what you're doing is safe.

And just because you wrote off your car, doesn't mean everyone is as stupid as you.

The argument goes both ways, and it always goes on for about 20 pages.I'm hoping this thread will get closed....

[MikeMurphy]

i agree with raising the driving age. Here in canada its 16. 16!!! Sure most people at 16 drive alright, but there is a high percentage that dont. The percentage is just too high to ignore

I dont street race because I dont think that im in a position to volunteer others to be in a dangerous situation. Im a very expirienced driver and expirience has shown me that you can street race as safely as you can, but you will never come close to a high level of safety. Basically you are playing the chance game.

On the other hand the media blows street racing accidents way out of proportion. Yes, its definitly a tragedy when people die in any sort of automobile accidents, HOWEVER the number of street racing related accidents is quite low in comparison to, well, everything else.

Its simply choosing to put other people in danger that makes me think twice. I would not be able to live with myself knowing that I had killed someone else because I chose to take a chance on their life for them.

[yellow_jacket]

That is the problem with street racing, you never know who you are putting in danger. I can handle hurting myself, but I couldn't handles killing someone else. Yes I used to triple the posted limit on a regular basis, but that was on a bike. I always figured if I wrecked I would die and my insurance would cover the dent in the other guys car. I can't say I've ever raced a car on the road.

It is true not a street racers are young, but most are. As you get older and see more people die from this it makes you realize how unsafe it is and how much of it is luck(that nothing bad happens).

No matter how you are driving just be safe out there! You never know who may come out of nowhere and hit you(or you them)

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

this is a stupid post to begin with.. ive street raced for the past 4yrs.. and ive never had any crazy accidents like all these u all talk about.. and some say why not do it on something more safe and designated.. well out in south texas we dont have that option.. and actually we have somewhere to race that there are no ppl no houses no cars nothing.. its a small 2mile highway.. i mean i watch videos and stuff where they r racing on busy streets and stuff like that.. i mean comman sense would say not to even try it.. i mean i know im a good driver but thats not to say that theres some 16yr old lil gurl that her parents bought her a mustang gt and she drives like a syko thats gonna pull out in front of u.. i love street racing,, i feel its better then somewhere where u have to pay to get in and pay to race.. but be considerate of others and if u know u cant control ur car at all times then dont race.. simple as that.. joe

[skydragoness]

originally posted by Phax: Quote »Forget about the other cars for a second, and the people who could be crossing the road, and the less than ideal road conditions (potholes, water, etc). As soon as all four of those tires lose contact with the pavement, you're straight up F U C K E D!!! No matter how good you think your car control skills are, you WILL NOT catch it before you smack into something (light pole, curb, guard rail, parked car, extend nearly infinite list of solid objects here..)[/quote]

:Werd

[BB Turbo]

This is just a topic that has wo different sides to it. There will always be two different sides. Yes, itis illegal, yes it can be dangerous. Will i stop going to them anytime soon? no. Will i ever race a car at the street races, no. Am i a 15 yr old know it all that everone keeps saying that i am, no. Does th media blow u theses things, yes. Street racing dumb, it isnt safe, and illegal. Street racing has probably been done since the 30s, maybe even b4 that. Will any of you alls comments change my mind, no. Threads like these cause huge arguments, and ends up leading on to pick on me, just cuz im15 and doesnt have a clue and i am probably gonna kill sum1 for being stupid and ignorant, thats what sum of you all think. threads like thses usually end up where one person hatesthe other. Most of the posted replies, are just us whoring the hale out of the topic. Sum1 close it.

[christopher]

I have been to only two track events and I have raced on the street as well. I think both can be done safely but, I just have more fun on a track. I can focus more on driving than the police or where the end of the road has potholes. It is way more fun on a twisty little track.

Since everyone has seen this same style post before I will spare you all the story about the accident I saw last year. A couple of dead imports on the freeway is not any type of motorsport.

That is my opinion.

[89sxRCR]

This is just a topic that has wo different sides to it. There will always be two different sides. Yes, itis illegal, yes it can be dangerous. Will i stop going to them anytime soon? no. Will i ever race a car at the street races, no. Am i a 15 yr old know it all that everone keeps saying that i am, no. Does th media blow u theses things, yes. Street racing dumb, it isnt safe, and illegal. Street racing has probably been done since the 30s, maybe even b4 that. Will any of you alls comments change my mind, no. Threads like these cause huge arguments, and ends up leading on to pick on me, just cuz im15 and doesnt have a clue and i am probably gonna kill sum1 for being stupid and ignorant, thats what sum of you all think. threads like thses usually end up where one person hatesthe other. Most of the posted replies, are just us whoring the hale out of the topic. Sum1 close it.

if this is what you write like, im scared how you drive. work on your spelling and grammar man, you need it. 15 year olds (or any teenager really) are typically called know it alls because they tend to think they are smarter and better than those around them, yet they lack crucial EXPERIENCE to make these decisions/actions that they think they are ready for. in example, racing on public streets. Why do you go to something you know is dumb and dangerous, as well as illegal?? No, im sure it has nothing to do with maturity level.... :rolleyes

[Phax]

And just because you wrote off your car, doesn't mean everyone is as stupid as you.

The argument goes both ways, and it always goes on for about 20 pages.I'm hoping this thread will get closed....

Write off or not, the point I was trying to make in my post and that obviously got missed is this... There are too many variables beyond your control in a street race. Anyone who believes otherwise is just fooling themselves.

You wanna call me stupid for trying to share a lesson I learned, so that others don't have to... that's on you and makes you look how it's made you look.

[SilviaLuvr]

street racing is better then track racing singlecamhonduhkilla, is that what im getting from your thread. hmm...lets see the pro and cons behind street raing and track

pros. SR it's free alot of ppl are garrenteed to show up.

cons. road blocks. helicopters and cops.breaking up the races and will escaping, watching out for the other races so that they won't hit you.the unpredictable driver next to you.the expensive a s s tickets that you are destine to resive.

and the list goes on you said it your self it's about mile road right. the coops can turn off their lights and be approching you and you woulnd't even know it until they are right in front of you and by that time you A) hit them or B) swerved and hit the guy next to you. or they can pull up from behind block you guys off that way and since the road is two miles of just a bieng straight they can just sit a mile or so donwn the raod and wait for you. you can't out smart a cop! plain and simple. they can and will catch you!

[skydragoness]

the only 'pro' i can think of that applies to streetracing, is 'convenience' and that is all. and what a stupid little advantage it is! legal racing on a track, with a bunch of other people who know what they're doing, have a mutual respect for you, safety personnel standing by, a controlled environment, what else is there to consider? i can't stand the BS i hear about "oh.. the traaaack is tooo faaaar" or "i have to pay moooooney" something like that. deal with it. it's a small price to pay for your fun and the safety of others, and you don't have to go to the dragstrip to get your fix. i found out last year they actually hold autocrosses in delaware. IN DELAWARE! OF ALL FRIGGIN PLACES! there's no excuses to be heard of it's over, it's done with, now let's close the thread.

[SilviaLuvr]

not to mench all the other things that you can be reward with i.e your there at the right time and impress the right ppl. learn things and another list of things that you cand be reward wit. ok now we can close!