Stock Ride Height

[Destrto]

Hey guys, I can't seem to find this info in any of the wikis or readings around. But I'm looking for the stock ride height on the car. From floor to the apex of the fender. And to clear any confusion, Stock height for an N/A 2+2

I recently installed coilovers, and I want to get a baseline of how much i want to lower by knowing what the stock ride height is. Mostly what I've found has been posts about how to actually adjust the height. And I already know how to do that.

[NolimitZ32]

NOt sure on the stock ride height figures but usually its measured from the center of the wheel to the top of wheel well since tire size affects overall height

[Destrto]

NOt sure on the stock ride height figures but usually its measured from the center of the wheel to the top of wheel well since tire size affects overall height

I see. I keep getting conflicting numbers. I don't know if it's from the TT having differences due to weight, or different years??

[NolimitZ32]

http://www.z32club.org/spec.shtml
you could use the ground clearance and extrapolate.

[Destrto]

http://www.z32club.org/spec.shtml
you could use the ground clearance and extrapolate.

I'll try that and see what I come up with. Thanks. Also, as an aside, why does the TT have a 19 gallon tank, when my N/A only has 15?

[NolimitZ32]

I don't think that's right, I've had 3 NAs and they all have the same size tank, may be a difference between 2+0 and 2+2 ???? Why do you say that you have a 15gal tank, have you run your completely dry before?

[Destrto]

I don't think that's right, I've had 3 NAs and they all have the same size tank, may be a difference between 2+0 and 2+2 ???? Why do you say that you have a 15gal tank, have you run your completely dry before?

Yes, I've let it run as dry as I possibly could. And it only came back with 15 gallons. Mine is a 2+2. That's why I thought it was strange that the link you gave me said it had a 19 gallon tank.

[NolimitZ32]

The 2+2 tank may be smaller because of the extra space that is taken up by the rear seat (don't quote me here but it makes sense) since in the 2+0 the tank is behind the seats where as in the 2+2 is has to be installed under the rear seat where there is less space.

[Destrto]

The 2+2 tank may be smaller because of the extra space that is taken up by the rear seat (don't quote me here but it makes sense) since in the 2+0 the tank is behind the seats where as in the 2+2 is has to be installed under the rear seat where there is less space.

That does make the most sense.

Also, if the ride height listed in that link is right, at least the way it came out on my car, that's so low I can't imagine that would be right. At 5" up from the center of the wheel, the fender sits on the tire. I'm sure that can't be right?

[amc49]

All this pathos over a stock ride height which is now lost forever anyway since coilovers have been installed. SHHHHEEESH. No two cars will be exactly the same with it anyway and talking two identical cars.

Set the car to whatever height works for you in the real world and let something which is now worthless to you go.

[NolimitZ32]

The man wants a baseline, what is so wrong with that, some people like to have all the info, even if it is without any real application. Furthermore, if you are getting really deep into handling charecteristics or just want the car to handle more like stock (perhaps as a baseline starting point) you would want that info.

[centralcoaster33]

The man wants a baseline, what is so wrong with that...

Some people wake up on the wrong side of the bed... then post. I've done it, then kind of wished I hadn't. I saw the same uh, frustration in another thread I'm active in, from the same day. Hopefully it was just a bad day and everything is okay in the big picture.

[Destrto]

The man wants a baseline, what is so wrong with that, some people like to have all the info, even if it is without any real application. Furthermore, if you are getting really deep into handling charecteristics or just want the car to handle more like stock (perhaps as a baseline starting point) you would want that info.

Thank you. Yes, there are plenty of reasons for wanting to know the stock ride height even with coilovers installed, or any other suspension setup for that matter.

I do just want a baseline to start with. So if I make a change I'm not happy with, I know where to set things at to start over correctly.

I hope he was just having a bad day. That's definitely what it sounded like.

[amc49]

'some people like to have all the info, even if it is without any real application.'

Don't ask me what I think of a statement like that, it's worthless in my world. Only facts that impact your world have value and how people get so wrapped up in the wrong things.

Look here, stock ride height no longer has any valid meaning as soon as the damping method changed there, the stock height will NOT perform the same because the damping and spring rates are different. The stock height is to prevent by and large most bottoming or topping out of the car using the OEM parts ONLY, changing those up could easily make the handling wildly different and setting back to stock ride height may not change that at all or even make it worse. Using coilovers you have likely changed the ultimate suspension limits as limited by the coilovers now, meaning if you have not correctly mounted them at the correct stroking distances you could easily begin to break them if their travel arc does not agree with the stock ride height which is actually the rough center of a suspension arc. An extremely common mistake, people just think you throw them on the car and all is well, often it is NOT. Don't get me started, I used to set them up for 200+ mph drag cars.

And, I AM in a good mood, I just don't believe in beating around the bush.

[NolimitZ32]

Actually amc nobody give a s*** what you think of that statement or any other for that matter, judging from the way you have hopped into this thread and for no reason other than to troll and started crapping on the conversation makes your outlook, opinions, and experience sound real trustworthy. And as for your thoughts on the ride height, yes the ride height will ALWAYS have an implication on the car's handling whether the dampening is changed or not because the ride height determines your center of gravity which alters the transfer of forces to the suspension and ultimately to the contact patch. Specifically in the OP's case the ride height will make a MASSIVE difference because all of the suspension components except the coilovers are OEM and are therefore very limited when it comes to adjusting ride height which leads many to either replace the rest of the bits or return the car to stock or almost stock ride height (if the person is consciences of proper alignment). There is a HUGE difference between setting up a car for drag racing (and I'll keep my thoughts on your supposed experience to myself) and a street car, especially if the street car is expected to go around freeway interchanges. I will give you ONE thing,proper dampening is extremely important in drag racing, not so much in the twisties though, so either stick to what you know, or be nice and share your experience rather than crapping on someone's thread while sounding like a pompous a**.

[Destrto]

To be honest, I really don't appreciate being told my seach for knowledge is useless. There is no beating around the bush. I asked a question for information I did not already have. If I have a reason for wanting to know, then it has a valid meaning. Even if I want the car to have coilovers on it, maybe I still want my car to sit at stock ride height? Oh, look, Practical application.

Stock ride height is very much useful, like already mentioned, when wanting to use that as a starting point in any suspension changes being made. Or even just to simply have a btter understanding of the changes made when upgrading suspension components.. Doesnt matter what I have for suspension. Knowing that information will be relevant to me. So, amc, i'm sorry you feel the way you do on the subject, but if you don't have anything useful to add in regards to answering my questions, do please find yourself another post. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would like to hear that their reason for posting is useless, but I am not one of them.

[amc49]

'Doesnt matter what I have for suspension.'

Exactly what I'm talking about...............lost, oh so lost...........

I will leave you people alone, you have big enough problems already.......................and if my 65 years years of life have taught me anything, it's that people never like hearing what is not to their exact desires. That ALWAYS has a very high price. I apologize for bursting any bubbles there, I'm sure the OP can conjure up more instantly, they always do.

[Destrto]

'Doesnt matter what I have for suspension.'

Exactly what I'm talking about...............lost, oh so lost...........

I will leave you people alone, you have big enough problems already.......................and if my 65 years years of life have taught me anything, it's that people never like hearing what is not to their exact desires. That ALWAYS has a very high price. I apologize for bursting any bubbles there, I'm sure the OP can conjure up more instantly, they always do.

I'm sorry you choose to be so bitter about these things. I'd hate to be in any classroom type environment with you. Anyone asks a question, "That information is useless, you don't need to know that!"

And good job, you know how to take excerpts of my post out of context to use them to validate whatever point you're trying to make. I'm not sure of your relevancy to this topic anymore, but, do you booboo.

If I want to know what the stock ride height is for my vehicle, so that I can use that as a reference point for any suspension changes I make, I'm going to ask. I'd rather know and not need it, than need it and not know. Surely someone will know or point me in a direction that helps me learn for myself. I really don't know why you seem to think that changing suspension components means that you will never need to achieve the stock ride height again.. That's just asinine, sorry.

By your current logic, I don't need to know what the stock ride height was from the factory because I'm using different parts than what came from the factory. Sooo.....what happens then if I don't want to have the car lowered, I already have coilovers installed, and I just want to have coilovers adjusted so that the car will sit at the same ride height as a stock model would? Wait, let me guess. You're going to tell me to throw out the coilovers and replace them with OEM? Again, asinine. It is entirely possible to adjust the height of the car, let me repeat that for you in case you missed it, "HEIGHT" of the car to stock (or close to it) with coilover components.

Coilovers are what I have installed. The stock ride height is what I'm trying to achieve. Apparently you're trying to say that that is no longer possible. I beg to differ. We're talking about the height of the car off the ground. Surely, in your 65 years of being on this planet, you've come across needing to know something similar.