Something other than an SR, CA, RB, JZ, VG, 350, swap

[Truck]

How about a RB30. It is a RB30e block, with a RB25-26de head. I believe lots of aussies do this motor build. You could even take it a step further, and stroke the motor, this may yield perhaps a RB34? I don't think that has ever been done. But if your going to do that, I suppose you could just get a 2jz, and stroke it... there are truly many possibilities.

[PapaBurgundy]

I hate to break it to you, but if its a DD you should probably stick with whats been done. At least that way when (not if) something goes wrong theres people that can help you out. If your the first to do something when you need help your on your own.

[anumeric]

Sorry but the mighty max\dodge d50 trans wont bolt up to a 4g63. My brother has a 4g conquest and tried that, it wont happen. But if you can get an adapter plate machined anything bolts up to anything, I know a guy with a 4g conquest thats got a chevy t5 trans.

Theres a guy locally that is running a 6-bolt 4g63 from a 90 GSX in his MM/D50 with no adapter plate. I talked to him a few times about his setup and was intrigued with his project since it not a common swap that I see. He had mentioned that it took awhile for him to find the MM/D50 that would work which had a manual 4g64. Since they are both narrow block configurations they mated up just fine according to what he said. I had thought that the 4g's from Starions/Conquest were wide block configurations and thats why they don't work with 4g64 MM/D50 trannys, as for the 2.6L D50 transmission I have no idea. Not trying to argue or pick a fight just trying to get my facts straight if I'm incorrect. But your right with a adapter plate machined you can mate anything together. There's a couple of eclipse/talon guys talking about using a turbo 2 transmission from a FC3S for a rwd conversion project. Has anyone heard or seen that conversion done?

Wei

[PapaBurgundy]

Argue away if you like I dont really know that much about it other than like you said it has a lot to do with the wide\narrow block stuff. Oh and the conquest never came with a 4g, just the piece of junk sohc, tbi 2.6 stroker timebomb.

[White Comet]

There's a couple of eclipse/talon guys talking about using a turbo 2 transmission from a FC3S for a rwd conversion project. Has anyone heard or seen that conversion done?

Wei

havent heard of it, but some fc guys swap to the miata trans

[Ice2CU]

I hate to break it to you, but if its a DD you should probably stick with whats been done. At least that way when (not if) something goes wrong theres people that can help you out. If your the first to do something when you need help your on your own.

Of course that makes the most sense. But the point of this topic is that I wanted to see what people had ideas for putting into a 240, other than the common motors.

[anumeric]

Of course that makes the most sense. But the point of this topic is that I wanted to see what people had ideas for putting into a 240, other than the common motors.

I wouldn't mind doing a f20 / f22c project in my s13 or ae86 one day when I have more money. There was a thread awhile back of someone who did this swap and I thought it was pretty damn sweet. We

[PapaBurgundy]

Of course you wouldnt mind an f20\22! Its the god of all na 4 cylinders.

[anumeric]

Of course you wouldnt mind an f20\22! Its the god of all na 4 cylinders.

I definitely couldn't agree more. Here's a old 71' Celica with a f20c I saw on Grassroots. Now thats sexy car with a sexy motor. Sorry if this is a repost of pics, I think I've seen them on here before.

Wei

[brizanden]

lol i lovee how empty tht bay is

[PapaBurgundy]

Holy crap! Too bad there isnt a smiley face for jerking off, if he had itb's on there it would be better than p0rn.

[PapaBurgundy]

I've got an idea, the f131 evoluzione! I gaurantee its not been done.

[sommmatt]

SHO Swap

[datsun2401972]

Oh and the conquest never came with a 4g, just the piece of junk sohc, tbi 2.6 stroker timebomb.

Didn't the Japanese spec Starion use a 4g?

[EviL inside]

L28 would be a pita to get into a 240, it's a good bit to long. Also i would think that it being so long would throw off the balance.

http://www.240sxforums.com/for...77182

nice little video of another one that was done,,,check out the throttle response...http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZOJdVfv8eM

a tight fit, but not TOO long,,,and more room to work on it once it's in than a V8 swap gives.

the way i see it,,,ANYONE can shove a big motor into a little car and make it go fast. in a few years, all the V8 guys are going to be scrambling to get rid of the gas guzzlers that they can't afford to drive anywhere.

at some of the meets, it's funny to watch the L28ET guys run 11's and 10's while the V8 swapped guys are stuck in 12's and higher. but they make lots of noise,,,i give them that!

the S2K motor is a cute little torqueless thing, isn't it? no wonder the diffs break once any forced induction is introduced.
Modified by EviL inside at 1:15 AM 4/30/2008

[koroshiya]

rotrary ftw

[Ice2CU]

I definitely couldn't agree more. Here's a old 71' Celica with a f20c I saw on Grassroots. Now thats sexy car with a sexy motor. Sorry if this is a repost of pics, I think I've seen them on here before.

Wei

that car looks pretty cool. i have never seen anything like it before. and i think that is what we all want to go for: something completely original. I think that is what my problem is. Its too easy to do a typical, easy swap. I want a challenge and something that no one else can say has been done.

Just remembered to think about finding a suzuki cappuccino and having a little fun with that.

[PapaBurgundy]

I dont think starions ever had 4g's. Not sure but I dont think the 4g63 as we know it was around in 1986-88.

[datsun2401972]

wikipedia states something about a single cam 4g63 that was used in japanese and australian models...hell, it even states they made a 4wd starion for group B rally before group B was canceled, sounds pretty kickass...

[White Comet]

yeah well wikipedia also says i **** on eggs

[Ice2CU]

wikipedia states something about a single cam 4g63 that was used in japanese and australian models...hell, it even states they made a 4wd starion for group B rally before group B was canceled, sounds pretty kickass...

wasn't Group B the one where the cars didn't need to go into production in order to be qualified to race? I remember that there was a Ford Rally for that group, I think, that had a turbo 4, awd, and killed half the drivers that drove them. I wouldn't doubt that there was a Starion awd.

[datsun2401972]

yeah well wikipedia also says i **** on eggs

Yeh, I guess wikipedia is only as good as the people behind it...

[PapaBurgundy]

Yes there was a awd starion and the ford your thinking about is the rs200. The reason why everyone got killed and it was cancelled was because there wasnt much for rules so manufacturers made awd cars with over 500hp that weighed less than 2000lbs Recipe for disaster and kick@ss racing.

[Ice2CU]

Yes there was a awd starion and the ford your thinking about is the rs200. The reason why everyone got killed and it was cancelled was because there wasnt much for rules so manufacturers made awd cars with over 500hp that weighed less than 2000lbs Recipe for disaster and kick@ss racing.

I wish they would bring back that formula

[PapaBurgundy]

Agreed. So I take it no one liked my f131 idea?

[morbid]

A vq35hr would be nice, and I don't think it's been done before.

Or wait until somebody crashes their 09 GT-R without ruining the engine .... and you can figure out the rest ;-)

[datsun2401972]

Hell, I didn't even know what an f131 was until about a month ago...

[BurritaSVT]

Figured I would add a motor to the list since I have already started the build I purchased this motor for $250 and a 2004 Taurus motor with less then 20k miles on it for $450. I will take all the accessories off of the 3.0 Taurus 3.0 splitport motor and add them to the newer 3.0 oval port motor. But before we do the long block swap we will dyno the 99 splitport motor then dyno the oval port. The motor weight less then 300lbs total weight and is built for 450hp potential. We are going to mate it up to the T5 manual transmission in the 240 sx might be one to add to the list expected to finish by this month. Here is a pic of the 3.0 split port duratec perfect for the job

[PapaBurgundy]

Hmmm.. -1 for being just a little too different, the OP seemed a little more interested in not crappy motors, but maybe I misenterpreted him.

[bt2s14]

I'm doing a VG30E swap right now. If you haven't swapped anything before I don't suggest something too crazy.