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S13CoupeLover
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how can i go about to learn how to solo?? learn scales??? if so how u combine scales? i know minor and major pentatonic scales, that's about all. but im going to learning more soon. but i wanna get the basics down for soloing then i can take it from there.

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Sell me your coupe and we'll talk.

No really, just play something over and over and over and over slowly building up speed. thats the best way.

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LMAO dude this is my first car and i wanna keep it as long as i can.

practise what though?? scales? what scales r the best? what r the scales that u utilize the whole neck of the guitar instead of a part?

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iwantans13
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Are you asking for help playing a specific solo, building up your speed or wiriting solos?

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He's talking improv. i believe. Find another guitarist *skilled* to jam with, or if you have some spare $ buy some recording gear... like mic and/or software/ cheap usb interface. With that you can play/write backing tracks and listen to what you've played. But playing with a skilled musician who's willing to teach will help you more than anything.

What kinda of music would you like to "solo" over. List bands, guitarists etc...


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hmmm argh. i dunno i wanna learn how to solo to rock, but nothen fancy/ fast/ect. nothing like hardcore/metal solos. like..hmmm cream, classic rock in a way. rock/blues/classic rock is koo with me. then maybe after that i'd go for something faster and build up.

i guess Classic rock first. but basically the basics to soloing/writing solos, yeah! writing solos DUH! (< not u guys that was towards me )

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Learn from david gilmour, brian may, eric clapton, rick nielson and jimmy page. Learn a bunch of thier solos. And jam with other people. Lessons may help too.

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ahh yeah but i'd rather not go that way.....

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IMHO, the best way to learn how to improvise is to learn from other artists. You can learn scales, but you'll end up sounding just like Zakk Wylde. Not saying the dude can't shread (or couldn't beat my ***), but all his stuff sounds the same. Lots of pentatonic scales with some pinch harmonics thrown in.

Learn to read tabs and learn some good solos. The first one in Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" is fairly easy, and has a lot of feeling. Pearl Jam's "Yellow Ledbetter" is another I like to jam. Listen to the radio cut and the acoustic live Boston version of Yellow Ledbetter. McCready plays each solo completely different, but they both sound great. I've taken bits and pieces from each and now make up a different arrangement each time I play it.

If you learn a few solos from different artists, you will start learning how all the notes connect and which ones not to hit when you're improvising. Once you've got the basics down, the scales will be easier to manipulate and make better sense.

Good Luck!

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Yes, like the other have said, dont constrict yourself to playing in certain scales. Some guitarist solo in the same scales, over and over again, in almost every song and not only is it annoying, but it shows a lack of depth. Study some other guitarists. I would recommend viewing several styles, like metal, blues, and classic rock. Get affiliated with a few guitarists from each genre and learn how to play some of their stuff. If you have any recording equipment, record a basic rhythm section and then play it back and solo over it. Use your scale knowledge, some tricks you learned from other guitarists, and some forms that you know will sound good. Dont go entirely fast or slow through the solo, mix it up a bit. If you can get another guitarist with good patience then sit down with him and play. Have him lay down a rhythm and just solo. A good friend of mine was nice enough to play the same pattern over and over for about half an hour while I solo'ed over it.


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