Sock's Big 240sx Project Thread

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Man, you are a sick mo'fo.....( I really mean that in a good way...)

This thread is very therapeutical, whenever I feel down, depressed,etc.. I go over the details and pics of your work and Im a brand new man.....


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You sir, are my hero!

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amolao wrote:This thread is very therapeutical, whenever I feel down, depressed,etc.. I go over the details and pics of your work and Im a brand new man.....
I couldn't agree more.

Whenever problems with my car worry me, this cheers me right up, lol.

I've only got a dime-sized spot of strut-tower rust to worry about.

Honestly, if I thought I had any parts you needed, I'd offer them to you gratis just for being such an inconquerable badazz with all that rust. Unfortunately, I don't have much of anything you'd probably have a use for.

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HashiriyaS14 wrote:I couldn't agree more.

Whenever problems with my car worry me, this cheers me right up, lol.

I've only got a dime-sized spot of strut-tower rust to worry about.

Honestly, if I thought I had any parts you needed, I'd offer them to you gratis just for being such an inconquerable badazz with all that rust. Unfortunately, I don't have much of anything you'd probably have a use for.
I was feeling down about my car earlier as well, and after reading and looking through all the pictures, I feel much better. Not to downplay his efforts with his car. I am completely amazed at the time and effort you are putting into this. I've got little patience as it is, but you sir are a monk. I may just have to hire you out to come fix my rocker panels.

Keep up the great work!

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Alrighty, finally got some pictures/work done.

This is how it starts today:

Some driver's side rear frame repair - it's almost done! Thank god!

Look at those sexy patches made out of shelving.

More frame repair.

A quick sand of the fiberglass.

Closed up again.

I only got two hours into it today, but I got enough done to keep my sorry *** happy. I'm almost done all the frame repairs - I'm so god damn happy about that. Really, I am.

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Got some more frame work done. Other than the passenger side rear inside quarter piece, passenger rear wheel well, and the passenger rocker panel, I'm done doing rust. These should only take a couple days, then the welder goes away until it's motor mount time.

Frame work ahoy.

Working the rocker panel smooth.

Sealing up the trunk with long-hair. It really looks like ***, but I could care less. I just don't want water getting in the trunk again.

Closed up.

Overall, a good hour put into it today. I look forward to turning wrenches soon.

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Quite the inspiration

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i dont want to knock you or your enthusiasm, but if that thing ever came into my shop i would laugh/cry/get angry and i dont know what else.

that thing is not safe, nor is it ever gonna be good for the road.

i dont know how canada works, but if you brought that thing into a shop *legit* for a yearly safety inspection they wouldnt even let you through the door.

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I did want to say so but with less than 10 posts on this forum I was afraid to get shot or banned but I share the same feeling by the way I'm from CAnada and yes it is common to see that kind of patched up work but not on my cars(s13 and b13) pics will be up soon

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Sockington, you're still my hero.

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ca18datsun510 wrote:i dont want to knock you or your enthusiasm, but if that thing ever came into my shop i would laugh/cry/get angry and i dont know what else.

that thing is not safe, nor is it ever gonna be good for the road.

i dont know how canada works, but if you brought that thing into a shop *legit* for a yearly safety inspection they wouldnt even let you through the door.
Well, I went through this with a few mechanic buddies who work at shops we deal with. According to the Ontario Highway Traffic laws, there can be no holes through bodywork into the cabin. It does not mention frame repairs or the materials needed. I understand that the whole idea of crumple zones has been completely thrown out the window, but I don't really care. It has to go for ONE safety - and that's when I transfer the title into my name. Then, it only has to pass an emissions test once every second year and I'm set.I understand that if I get in an accident, it's going to cause more damage to my vehicle/vehicle hitting me due to the diminished "energy absorption" from the repairs.

As for it passing a *legit* inspection when it does go in, that won't be a problem. I have more than enough friends to swing the safety ticket through. The brake, suspension, and drivetrain system will all be new, so there's little worry there.
ca20det wrote:I did want to say so but with less than 10 posts on this forum I was afraid to get shot or banned but I share the same feeling by the way I'm from CAnada and yes it is common to see that kind of patched up work but not on my cars(s13 and b13) pics will be up soon


Yes, but your car wasn't 3days away from being sent to a wrecker, now was it? Was your car owned by a 20 year old Asian girl who drove it every year in the winter? Probably not.

I figured, "It's a $100 car, and I'm sure I can learn a hell of a lot from it." That's it. I'm not planning on selling the car and endangering anyone else's life through these repairs. I'm just making a fun little car that I can piss down to the drag strip, local autocrosses, and take for the occasional burn through the city.

So, laugh if you will. I simply saved an abused little hatch from the wreckers and learned a hell of a lot in the process.
~4N~ wrote:Sockington, you're still my hero.
Good to know I stil have someone on my side.

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I never laughed at you, and just wonder what you have learned... anyway you wanted opinions you got them good or bad I think thats the point of doing these kind of posts sorry if you are offended but its not because you can go around the law because of your connexions that it makes it right.. and for your info mine has been driven in quebec'S winter with tons of salt and is in as bad a shape than yours with 216000km on the odo so I knowas for the guy on your side I don't want to throw rocks at anybody but would you be proud to have chuck norris telling you you're his hero.. wouldn't be quite relevant IMO (no offense to the other guy I don't know him, just trying to make a point

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This is Socks thread, and in this stage, how far he is into this project, I think his response is pretty justified. He's not asking for your approval, just because you don't think it's right or safe.

There's no need to knock on ~4N~ either.

If your car is in similar conditions, well, either learn by Socks example and do what you want to save your car or trash it or whatever. Whichever you chose there's no need to impose your will on Sock. There's already been plenty of questioning his motives on the previous pages, if you'd care to read them.

Your first post made your point plenty.

/threadjack

Keep up the hard work Sock! It looks like you're making some good progress.

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i dont think its fair to the other people who will have to share the road/track/autocross corse with this unsafe vehicle.

aside from ruining your crumple zones, when all those welds brake free and you get a puncture through your gas tank, you, and anyone around you is gonna have a big problem.

having " more than enough friends to swing the safety ticket through. The brake, suspension, and drivetrain system will all be new, so there's little worry there." is not legit. that was my point. the brakes and suspension will do you know good when they seperate themselves from the car.

ps, there is a reason some cars should just be stripped of usuable parts, and just left to die in peace.

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ca20det wrote:I never laughed at you, and just wonder what you have learned... anyway you wanted opinions you got them good or bad I think thats the point of doing these kind of posts sorry if you are offended but its not because you can go around the law because of your connexions that it makes it right.. and for your info mine has been driven in quebec'S winter with tons of salt and is in as bad a shape than yours with 216000km on the odo so I knowas for the guy on your side I don't want to throw rocks at anybody but would you be proud to have chuck norris telling you you're his hero.. wouldn't be quite relevant IMO (no offense to the other guy I don't know him, just trying to make a point
I was looking more at this line:" I'm from CAnada and yes it is common to see that kind of patched up work but not on my cars(s13 and b13)"

"That kind of patched up work" meaning what? It's not like I'm riveting and silicone-ing panels on the car and filling the frame rails with expanding foam and Bondo to pass a safety. I've seen more riveted floors than I've seen welded in pieces, and frankly, the latter seems safer to me.

I'm not trying to make a show car - I'm just trying to safe a rusted out shell from the wreckers and enjoying the process.
ca18datsun510 wrote:i dont think its fair to the other people who will have to share the road/track/autocross corse with this unsafe vehicle.

aside from ruining your crumple zones, when all those welds brake free and you get a puncture through your gas tank, you, and anyone around you is gonna have a big problem.
There will be no tank (if you read the first couple pages), it's going to use a fuel cell.
ca18datsun510 wrote:having " more than enough friends to swing the safety ticket through. The brake, suspension, and drivetrain system will all be new, so there's little worry there." is not legit. that was my point. the brakes and suspension will do you know good when they seperate themselves from the car.
What the hell? Did you look where the rusted spots are? Rocker panel? Wheel well? Rear pan. Driver's side front rail (common problem), passenger side rail, along with the rear rails. I didn't need to add as much material as I did, but I decided to go a touch overkill.

As for the patches falling off, I've given all my welds a good test with the 10lb sledge hammer. There are a ten times stronger than the factory "glued" body sections.

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Dont listen to em sock, you da man

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I only got about 20minutes of work in on the car today.

Basically, I decided to chop out the bad section of the passenger rocker panel. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Oh god. So bad.

Taking care of a couple of high spots on the driver's wheel well.

That's really it for today.

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I gotta say. that's a ton of work on that car. i can't knock anyone for doing that much work on a car. I personally wouldn't of taken on that challenge, it's intense! All that extra metal, all that extra weight!

I think if you waited out you could've found a better candidate to do the work on. I mean you pretty much learn what you're going to learn on the first bit of patch work.

I can't knock you man, it's a major under taking, and you only really need support to finish up the project. Keep at it. I always check for this thread. it's very interesting.

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Bumnah wrote:I gotta say. that's a ton of work on that car. i can't knock anyone for doing that much work on a car. I personally wouldn't of taken on that challenge, it's intense! All that extra metal, all that extra weight!

I think if you waited out you could've found a better candidate to do the work on. I mean you pretty much learn what you're going to learn on the first bit of patch work.

I can't knock you man, it's a major under taking, and you only really need support to finish up the project. Keep at it. I always check for this thread. it's very interesting.
I am in total agreement. Sock is holding it down. I admire his work ethic and dedication to his project.

I got all the guys in my workcenter asking me to check "the forum" to see if Sock has posted an update. There is pretty much nothing to keep us motivated out here in Kabul, but every time Sock posts, it gives us a little more strength to keep on going. Thanks dude.

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go sock... reminds me of my frame... cept i live in RI, on the ocean, where there is salt even when its not winter. I fiberglassed over all my replacement steel, ten undercoated it... i figure rust CANT get in that way.

keep on keepin on

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Really nice to see you're still plugging away on this project, keep it up, its looking good! Just let the haters hate, or tell 'em you're putting 19's on it and watch the war start! Anyways bud-dy keep us updated!

Where are you from in Canada? Anywhere near Montreal?

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Nope, down near London/Windsor area.

I only got in an hour after work, but here's the results.

Working the wheel well.

The 70% done rocker panel.

Making that weird muffler area.

All closed up for another day.

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Sick man, dont EVER lose motivation on this thing, we all want to see it done. My only concern is if it's gonna drive wierd with all this modification to the structure of the car...

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Sockington wrote:Something came in the mail today...

What ever could it be?

Yes. Finally.

Also, I sitched in some new panels in that little trunk rust patch. I'll grab some pictures tommorow.
good luck on this task....removing the bushing is easy but installing the rear poly links is a itch.....i gave up....lmk if u figure it out

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vutony wrote:good luck on this task....removing the bushing is easy but installing the rear poly links is a itch.....i gave up....lmk if u figure it out
I work with a guy who has a 20-tonne press. I think I'll get it covered the proper way.

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yea the rear bushings are a real PITA... but totally worth it. i ended up cutting them in half like the fronts are... couldnt get them to go through right... i put a hack saw in a vise and sawed the bushings over them... if you do that, mark or bag each bushing seperate so you keep the halves together and possibly put an aligner mark so you can line them up in the part... so the slants line up (you will not be able to cut them 100% straight) maybe if you set up a custom miter box. but still... good luck... i never tried the freezer trick so idk how much they will shrink if frozen, cant be too much bc what happens if you drive with them in the winter???


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Finally got some work done today.

Let's get 'er started.

Finishing up some patch welding

Cutout that rotted passenger section:

Welded new panel in.

Undercoated that fiberglass coating in trunk.

Closed up for the day:

Overall, it was a good hour or so. I'm expecting to be done the body work in the next couple trips (welding that is).

Also, I picked myself up a nice autocross helmet for this car and the Altima.

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Got another hour into today. Mainly, I spent today sealing up the new body pieces to prevent water from getting through.



Undercoated patch.

I'm so damn excitied. I just have to weld up the wheel well and rocker and I'm done. Jesus, it's so close to motor time.

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damn its lookin good

i must admit that im extremely impressed with your skillz

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Man, major props for you for taking on this project! When saw the pictures on the first page, I felt like running to the doctor and getting a tetanus shot.


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