s13 - rb25 + 383 + boost = MATAfied's ride

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thanks for all the support guys

well here is a pic of my mesurements i used when fabing up my mounts dont know if it will help you. also note the depth of the pan at 4 inches to clear steering rack.with this the passinger side motor mount would be 2 1/2" and driver side would be 2 "





i still need to clean this up lol



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nice!! great work.

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freakin sweet man. thanx.

what all did you have to do to the crossmember.

it doesn't look like you had to do much. someone was saying you have to cut out some on the front side. didn't look like you had to.

and what type of mounts are those? are those just the 240 mounts?

i'm trying to remember what the crossmember looks like stock, it's been a while. i can go take a look at mine though. are those the stock mounts or did you have to weld those in?

btw: hope you don't mind.. i'm gonna have to save these pics for reference later. ;] i've had plenty of lessons in the school of hard knocks, it's okay to take cues now and then... gets you by better when you've only got one shot to make it right.

again, i really really appreciate this thread, brother. thanx

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Well I did not even touch the cross member (its a R33), not even to clean it lol. Also the mounts are solid rubber and I used it to just figure out the height. I will be making some new ones when it’s all ironed out. I would have had it all done yesterday but my brother in laws rb trans was acting up and had to rip it out.






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ah no kidding. so the oil pan you made was made just for the r33 crossmember? or is the r33's similar enough to the 240's?

i've heard that a NovaII's oilpan fits the 240 crossmember.

nice heated garage btw.

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matafied wrote:Well I did not even touch the cross member (its a R33), not even to clean it lol. Also the mounts are solid rubber and I used it to just figure out the height. I will be making some new ones when it’s all ironed out. I would have had it all done yesterday but my brother in laws rb trans was acting up and had to rip it out.




nice build man... but i still see a fmic.. you get crazy ideas with a FI SBC...

looks good

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oh yea, got to have some boost

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dblanehopr wrote:so the oil pan you made was made just for the r33 crossmember? or is the r33's similar enough to the 240's?
tryin to get a good gauge on the oil pan and mount and crossmember section before i start the project. gonna have to getrdon. would the oilpan set up you made work right demensions on the 240's crossmember too? and you were saying those mounts are R33 mounts?

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R33 corssmembers are different the S13/S14 crossmembers, so his pan won't fit yours.

The NovaII pan will work though.

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Are you going with a single turbo setup? I thinks a set of twins would LOOK awsome, albeit complicate everything.

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yea i was thinking about twins, but just want to keep it simple right now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/image ... s/hide.gif" BORDER="0">
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WDRacing wrote:R33 corssmembers are different the S13/S14 crossmembers, so his pan won't fit yours.

The NovaII pan will work though.

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Are you going with a single turbo setup? I thinks a set of twins would LOOK awsome, albeit complicate everything.

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that's what i heard bro.. was hoping for more of an intial setup that i could not fully run off of, but know that that setup fits and i only have to worry about fine tuning it.

so... a 240 crossmember.. and a 350 w/ a Nova II will fit after makin some mounts... yeah?

Matified, be nice for you to go Forced Induction so you can mess with the Air/Fuel lil more.

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dblanehopr wrote:so... a 240 crossmember.. and a 350 w/ a Nova II will fit after makin some mounts... yeah? .
i have a question about that, Has anyone seen this done? i have heard the chevy II stuff but never seen it used on a car, everyone still ended up makeing a custom oil pan.

also one other thing to keep in mind is the stroke, 350 work's fine with chevy II stuff ( i.e. sump, and pan ) but when you stroke the motor (383) crank hit's the sump. so just another reason for me making my own

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might be easier to make one anyways cuz you gotta find the NovaII pan first before you can do it. might be able to.. dunno.

all the measurements you made for that pan was just made for the R33 crossmember then.. meh.. i'll just have to do it meself. ;] mize well.

tryin to remember... the slope of the engine should be 15 degrees right? i'll have to look that up again.

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this is another reason i went this route, factory s13 transmission crossmember with a 92 camaro tranny rubber mount. Drilled one hole






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Sweeet tits dude!!!

Not fabbing stuff vs drilling a hole FTMFW

Also, I didn't know you needed a new pan when you stroke the 350. That complicates the turbo 383 S14 I'd love to someday. Perhaps a simple high compression 383 will be easier...

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WDRacing wrote:Also, I didn't know you needed a new pan when you stroke the 350. That complicates the turbo 383 S14 I'd love to someday. Perhaps a simple high compression 383 will be easier...

WD
in a normal application the stock 350 stuff works fine, but in a 240sx with front sump you run into problems. The stroke is bigger on a 383, meaning the crankshaft is bigger. with the chevy II sump assembly the rod cap bolts hit the oil pickup tube.

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but with the right pan you don't have to cut out the firewall using a 240's crossmember?

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alittle update, have had little time the last couple weeks to do muchi have a lot of cleaning to do hahah


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well a little late to start on this engine bay, but better now than never.I dont have any clue why i didnt do this before i put the engine in




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im really glad i came across this build. its pretty awesome even for a chev motor lol keep it up

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thanks, finishing up the engine bay. looking good

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man i cant wait to drive this thing, i still have butt loads of work. but i am making progress

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Subscribed. Anymore updates???

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well haha i have turned direction with the setup, i wanted a more universial setup for when i really build the motor. i changed the heads and intake combo. 64cc aluminum heads with edelbrock efi intake, fuel rails and high Flow elbow. Which works with ls1 throttle bodys. added a little eye candy some P45r's 18 x 9.5 +20 all around, dumped the tein ss as low as they will go, and rolled the rear fenders.





let me know what you think

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nice build. like the oil pan. what kind of heads? obviously aluminum guess the 64cc heads me no longer going turbo? did you upgrade any of the bottom end of the motor?what kind of power you looking at, that intake should move lots of air.

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450SX! wrote:nice build. like the oil pan. what kind of heads?
thanks, the heads are cheaper pro comps with manley ss valves and comp cam springs, MLS head gaskets and ARP Head bolts
450SX! wrote:guess the 64cc heads me no longer going turbo?
haha yea well, i still want boost even if its only 7 pounds, water injection if needed
450SX! wrote:did you upgrade any of the bottom end of the motor?what kind of power you looking at, that intake should move lots of air.
yea bottom end is pretty stock it has been rebuilt and bored ( 355), not sure what this thing will put down or how long it will last.i just wanted to get everything made and get my setup in stone for my 383 short block im working on

i just knew the tpi wouldnt flow enough for my 383

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after reading this last night I looked in summit racing's catalogand saw some keith black hyperpeutic pistons that are -13cc with a 9.0 comp on 64cc heads. I would use the forgedaluminum over the hyperpeutic from what I have heard but , guess you can get a pretty low comp ratio with 64cc heads. on my motor the engine builders also used a thicker gasket ,I think it was a cometic head gasket. to help lower the comp ratio as well.

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Who cares about c/r!!!

Just use some water/meth injection and e85. I'l bet at 9.0:1 with water/meth and e85 you'd still safely be able to run 18 psi... at least!!!

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wrxratd wrote:Who cares about c/r!!!

Just use some water/meth injection and e85. I'l bet at 9.0:1 with water/meth and e85 you'd still safely be able to run 18 psi... at least!!!
oh yea! we will see


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