S13 camber issues

[shalezzz]

i posted this in wheel tire and suspension also btw..so tried test fitting my rota p45s on my s13 i have 215 45 on 17x9 +12 camber plates are maxed out and its still poking like an inch and rubs like crazy im on megan tracks with both colllars removed( really wish i bought some pbms) idk if i wanna move to a 40 sidewall cause then ill no longer tuck (i dont think) is there any alternatives besides spending money on flca should i run more stretch or get 40 not tuck again tilll i get some better coilovers that go lower any input would be apprciated thank you here are some pics

[compactfean]

Get flared front fenders and tub the front. And role the rear fenders ...then you can align it to be functional.

[Pro ViZion]

do a roll and pull on your fenders.

[sabretooth91]

Isn't there a really good thread about over-lowering your car being horrible for handling?

[compactfean]

Actually his setup probly handles like a champ! Stretched tire on a 9" wide wheel will not budge. He has full coil overs which will correct his camber from lowering it. If he puts that on an alignment machine I bet camber is within 2°.,,, as long as he has some adjustable rucas I'd set this bad boy to 0° in the rear and like -1.25 in the front. Also bring the toe in like .25°. If you have rubbing after the alignment is done work around the tires. Fender pulling tubbing. The front (I've never seen the rears rubbed) or flared fenders. That way the suspension geometry. Is perfect. The lovely benefits of having fully adjustable. Coilovers.

[shalezzz]

Isn't there a really good thread about over-lowering your car being horrible for handling?

i maxed out mymegan coils and it handles a 100 times better than on a sping sturt combo i can take turns much faster than needed because i have no body roll its not like an all out autocross drift car its good for what i use it for its reliable fun to drive, and if you have the money and slam your car and buy all new adjustable arms and somethin to correct your tierod angle so its not /(at a crazy angle) i would assume it would handle the same if not better as long as your not bottoming out all over

and i got more camber outa the megans since i wasdoing it in the dark i didnt realize that there were 2 more threaded sections so you could move the bolts on the mount over one, i got more clearance and its not poking nearly as much, im considering trying a news paper pul on the front for the<1/4 of an inch i need

[sabretooth91]

Won't you have travel issues though? Not being able to soak up any kind of bumps? The wheels can't go up much if it is already lowered so much. If you corner hard, won't the inside front tire come off the ground(or get negligible grip)? I won't pretend I'm an expert at this, so I defer to you guys. I just remember reading an article where they had diagrams of suspensions and they pointed out all sorts of things. Most Nissan suspension heights are already set for best center of gravity height and compression/rebound rates etc. I can't find the stupid thing now.
There was a Formula D driver who had the uber-low suspension (I believe a 240sx too) because it looked cool and he thought a lower car = lower center of gravity = more control, but he was getting inconsistent grip during his drift because it didn't soak up bumps. He lifted it an inch or so, and presto!

Again, I'm sure you guys know more than me. I'm just adding my 2 cents. I plan on overhauling my suspension at some point for drifting.

[compactfean]

Sounds good. I know you can get that thing within specs if you have rucas. Where is it rubbing at? Just the fenders? Also if you get Megan tied rods it changes your steering angle so you can turn out and in further but I would be cautious with that wide of a wheel might hit the stock tub. Get that thing aligned im really curious what kind of numbers you got! If you get it aligned with the numbers I gave you that's a perfect street alignment.

[compactfean]

You have definitely done your research mike9. And yes you are correct in a sense. It depends how he lowered it. First off coil overs. (Most of them) will automatically give you almost an inch more wheel travel by itself because how far the spring sit up in the strut bearing assembly (vs lowering springs which directly takes away wheel travel because of the shorter spring) 2nd, coilovers can be lowered without changing the spring ratio (the body gets adjusted vs the spring itself) which equals a lower car again without changing wheel travel. Bump stops can be shortened. To get more wheel travel and last ...very last method to lower a car is to adjustment the coil itself. A must have to lower a 240 super low is front camber plates. And adjustable rucas.

[sabretooth91]

Thanks for that. I'm sure I'll come back to this post when it comes time.

[shalezzz]

Sounds good. I know you can get that thing within specs if you have rucas. Where is it rubbing at? Just the fenders? Also if you get Megan tied rods it changes your steering angle so you can turn out and in further but I would be cautious with that wide of a wheel might hit the stock tub. Get that thing aligned im really curious what kind of numbers you got! If you get it aligned with the numbers I gave you that's a perfect street alignment.

i have ruca, its only the front the shoulder of the tire hits the lip when i cut it, and the tien ones give you more ange as far as how far you can cut the wheel i have them, i mean like the geometry where the tie rod is like i think the spl ones come with spacers so the tie rod is close to being parallel again or you can just buy an expensive a** new knuckle

[compactfean]

Rubs on the inner or outer? When. I put my 300zx wheels on it rubbed on the. Inner. Rear part of the tire in the front so I just marked where it was rubbing on the fender well and then took my tire off and beat the fender well in with a sledge! Lol no more rubbing.

[shalezzz]

Rubs on the inner or outer? When. I put my 300zx wheels on it rubbed on the. Inner. Rear part of the tire in the front so I just marked where it was rubbing on the fender well and then took my tire off and beat the fender well in with a sledge! Lol no more rubbing.

front lol in fear of damaging my fender i havent turned to to full lock but i have like a good 2 finger gap between coilover and tire so im gonna guess since its a low offset and is strectched slight it hopefully wont be bad but i may have to bust out a bfh if i have to i dont have time or energy for tubs lol maybe when i swap my engine and thats a big maybe if i was initially gonna tub it i woulda bought better wheels

[shalezzz]

by repeating front i meant to say outside lip

[compactfean]

Oh I gotcha. A fender pull/roll should do the trick then. Autozone rents out out a fender rolling tool for free....don't know how well it works though. Once I get my rucas ill be in the same boat because my stock camber is maxed out and is still at. -2° each side. Great for cornering...bad for traction.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Really I need one, my 275's rub

[shalezzz]

Really I need one, my 275's rub

no i dont thinkso i called the one on street rd. in bensalem and he said no and that he doesnt know of any that did, i may buy a poweredby maxx one later this week, ill let you borrow it if i do, cause i get the same story ohh my friend has one let me ask him and than i dont hear anything and im not tryina bug people

[OutToWinPAHC]

Never knew you were so local

[shalezzz]

my gf lives on your street my sister lives on your block haha i lve between bristol pike and street road