Rogue Recall

[oldnissanguy]

Going in for my 2023 Rogue recall tomorrow. Guess the dealer wanted to get a head start. I'm not expecting much since I'm experiencing no obvious issues. My concern is about what happens down the road if I do start having symptoms? I've done the recall and my car is out of warranty?

Secondary question. If they replace the engine how is it going to be better than the original other than not currently broken?

[VStar650CL]

There's not much you can do past warranty except have a good aftermarket warranty. The canary in the coal mine will be a lit MIL with a P0524 code, current or past. The reprogram installs diagnostic firmware which allows the ECM to detect oil pressure anomalies indicating a problem in the bottom end, and Nissan chose to lump it in with the generic "low signal" coding.

[oldnissanguy]

I don't remember ever buying an extended warranty for any vehicle, but I did for this one!

[V6er]

I don't remember ever buying an extended warranty for any vehicle, but I did for this one!

those who didn't bought extended warranty - got it for free because of this recall.

[oldnissanguy]

So I went to my dealer for the recall. I sat there for an hour and they finally came out and said they couldn't do the recall because they had some kind of computers glitch and couldn't flash the ECM. I'd have to come back. Got a text yesterday that they're ready to do the recall again but I'm thinking about taking it to another dealer. Would that be advisable? They did offer me a free oil change for my trouble but I much prefer to do my own.

[VStar650CL]

Nissan had two episodes of trouble with their servers recently, both of which affected the Consult3+ and Consult4. Our dealership had to turn away a few people too. It's fixed now.

[jopc5456v]

Hello, once you got in for recall procedure, how long of a wait for them to finish the recall process? I have mine scheduled for next month. Thank you

[oldnissanguy]

I don't know since they never completed the recall. I have to reschedule.

[VStar650CL]

Hello, once you got in for recall procedure, how long of a wait for them to finish the recall process? I have mine scheduled for next month. Thank you

That depends which recall, whether you have/had a lit MIL, and whether they have a tech and a bay immediately available. The procedures and paperwork all take about an hour of actual shop time provided you only need an ECM reflash. If you've had a lit MIL then you may need a Throttle Body, that's another hour or so provided they have it in stock.

[Q451990]

So there's no oil pan drop for this recall? My Mother in Law took hers in for the recall, and it just mentioned an ECU flash, and no DTC P0524. I'm hoping there wasn't a drop since this particular dealership insists on using bulk 5W30 synthetic blend for everything.

What is the ECU flash doing? I've seen some posts on social media about it changing fuel mixtures to keep oil temperatures lower, but that seems a little far fetched to me.

[oldnissanguy]

Now if Nissan just had an ECM reflash for that stupid engine rattle.

[VStar650CL]

So there's no oil pan drop for this recall? My Mother in Law took hers in for the recall, and it just mentioned an ECU flash, and no DTC P0524. I'm hoping there wasn't a drop since this particular dealership insists on using bulk 5W30 synthetic blend for everything.

What is the ECU flash doing? I've seen some posts on social media about it changing fuel mixtures to keep oil temperatures lower, but that seems a little far fetched to me.

Only the earliest version of the recall had us dropping pans. The engineers evidently figured out that they could detect impending bottom end issues from the behavior of the oil pressure, so the recall installs diagnostic firmware which does that. It also fixes a firmware glitch which can cause the Throttle Body to overshoot during active testing and damage the gears which drive the butterfly. If there's a P2101 and/or P2119 already present (past or current), the TB gets replaced before the reflash. Afterward the oil temp is run up to 187F and the car is driven, if a P0524 pops up then the engine gets replaced.

[idunno]

Has nissan has said what the conditions are to set P0524 after the recall? I get that oil temp has to be above 187, but I’m wondering what it’s looking for in oil pressure response.

[VStar650CL]

Only the engineers know that, and they rarely tell us anything we don't need to know. My presumption is that they're watching the pressure ramp when the engine rises off idle and then how strong the pulses from the pump are above idle.

[oldnissanguy]

Hello, once you got in for recall procedure, how long of a wait for them to finish the recall process? I have mine scheduled for next month. Thank you

Took about 3.5 hours but I just dropped it off. Might have been less if I had waited.