Q70 DIESEL SELLING IN UK

[Larz]

The Infiniti Q70 is available in the UK and with the diesel option, it is capable of nearly 65 mpg! With the premium and tech packages and sunroof it will cost under 40k pounds (about 60k US).
If it were offered here, I would not be able to pass on it.

Have a squinz:
http://www.infiniti.eu/configurator/?lo ... &model=q70

[Rogue One]

Not to nit pick, but 65mpg UK translates to 54mpg US (which is still impressive).

[Ilya]

For those who want MPG, that's very nice. But that power output? No thanks. I'll stick to my 420hp V8 lol. POOOOWWAAAAA (said in Jeremy Clarkson voice).

[silberma]

Actually diesels have higher torque at lower speed which allows them with proper design to be fast and have high MPG. Take the BMW M550d xDrive powered by a 3.0 liter turbo diesel 6-cylinder engine: it does 0-60 mph in 4.7 seconds. Not bad for a family sedan. Compare that to the BMW 535i xDrive powered by a 3.0 liter turbo 6-cylinder gas engine: it does 0-60 mph in 5.7 seconds.

PS with stricter EPA MPG ruling this will be the way of the future.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/q ... as.707161/

[Ilya]

Actually diesels have higher torque at lower speed which allows them with proper design to be fast and have high MPG. Take the BMW M550d xDrive powered by a 3.0 liter turbo diesel 6-cylinder engine: it does 0-60 mph in 4.7 seconds. Not bad for a family sedan. Compare that to the BMW 535i xDrive powered by a 3.0 liter turbo 6-cylinder gas engine: it does 0-60 mph in 5.7 seconds.

PS with stricter EPA MPG ruling this will be the way of the future.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/q ... as.707161/

Ahh interesting, didn't know that. I was just looking at the kPw numbers and going off of that. Thanks.

[dmclone]

I've driven a few diesel vehicles in europe and the whole "But they have a ton of torque" argument is a little overrated IMO. Of course it depends what model you're driving but if you're expecting to have a fast car and get 50mpg at the same time, it's not going to happen with a diesel. This model in the U.K. has similar performance as a Toyota Prius. Another down side is that in the U.S. the diesel cars have a large premium where in the U.K. they are usually cheaper.


I actually considered a BMW 335D for awhile which is a really quick car but most of the owners reported getting around 26mpg and major repair bills for fuel pumps. The diesels do seem to get really good mileage at steady high speeds though.

[Larz]

For those who want MPG, that's very nice. But that power output? No thanks. I'll stick to my 420hp V8 lol. POOOOWWAAAAA (said in Jeremy Clarkson voice).

LOL @ Jeremy's response! I grew up watching that show and sorely miss it, but BBC had no choice - they had to sack Jeremy. Kudos to Richard and James for refusing to carry on with out Jeremy even it meant a huge loss to them both financially and the end of Top Gear for BBC. Very sad day all around.

Here is the 5th gear (blech!) review of the v6 turbo diesel verison M37 (called M30d) in the UK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MnMyObTMh0

As for power output - great point but as you know diesel power plants have HUGE torque so even though the 0-60 might be lower, it probably isn't a shabby time either. Huge torque is great unless it's on a BMW where you use the torque to limp to the dealer for constant repairs, LOL.

[Larz]

Not to nit pick, but 65mpg UK translates to 54mpg US (which is still impressive).

I'm curious. Isn't "mpg" the same for any country? I mean to say if it were UK, wouldn't they post it as "L/100km" litres per 100 km? ... which also begs the question: why is a UK dealership posting "mpg" on the cars it sells? Very strange if you ask me.

[Ilya]

For those who want MPG, that's very nice. But that power output? No thanks. I'll stick to my 420hp V8 lol. POOOOWWAAAAA (said in Jeremy Clarkson voice).

LOL @ Jeremy's response! I grew up watching that show and sorely miss it, but BBC had no choice - they had to sack Jeremy. Kudos to Richard and James for refusing to carry on with out Jeremy even it meant a huge loss to them both financially and the end of Top Gear for BBC. Very sad day all around.

OT...

The good ol boys are in talks with NetFlix on producing a new show (it will be announced any week now) and giving rights to ITV, etc. to broadcast it. "TG" will be back...and probably better if done by Netflix (no BBC like rules).

[silberma]

In the UK the gallon is an imperial gallon. So 1.2 imperial gallons are equal to 1 USA gallon.

[Rogue One]

Not to nit pick, but 65mpg UK translates to 54mpg US (which is still impressive).

I'm curious. Isn't "mpg" the same for any country? I mean to say if it were UK, wouldn't they post it as "L/100km" litres per 100 km? ... which also begs the question: why is a UK dealership posting "mpg" on the cars it sells? Very strange if you ask me.

Part of that is that Imperial gallons are different than US gallons. 1 US gallon = .83 Imperial gallons. 45 US MPG = 54 Imp MPG. Or, 65 Imp MPG = 54 US MPG.

European cars don't go through the same tests as American cars do. The EPA's test attempts to mimic American driving conditions, while European cars go through a more European test. Excellent article about the testing here:
Why European Gas-Mileage Ratings Are So High--And Often Wrong