OK.... GAS MIELAGE............

[Driving Instructor]

Ok.. Canadian figures....... you can convert

565 kilometres 43 litres. = 7.6 litres for 100 km's...

around 31 mpg...Where is this estimated 40 mpg?

Mostly hwy........ some in-town..... average speed 90 km ph.

CVT TRANNYdirect from the nissan website: 6-speed manual transmission - City 7.9 (36) 7.9 (36) 6-speed manual transmission - Highway 6.3 (45) 6.3 (45) 4-speed automatic transmission - City 8.5 (33) 8.5 (33) 4-speed automatic transmission - Highway 6.3 (45) 6.3 (45) Xtronic CVTTM - City 7.5 (38) Xtronic CVTTM - Highway 6.0 (47)
Modified by Driving Instructor at 1:07 AM 3/17/2008

[frankoV]

Seen my sig? Don't complain!

Discussions all over the board on this: government estimates were way out of whack. US figures have changed; for some reson the CDN figures have not.

But you are right -- trés disappointing!

[boingo82]

We were never promised 40mpg mixed. What are you talking about?I think 31mpg for mixed driving in winter is pretty darned good.

[KKaWing]

I believe the brochure goes somewhere between 30-35 imp. mpg. Besides you get better than I do /cry I usually average around 8-9L/100K. My best was going into Collingwood all Hwy. @ 7.8L/100K.

6 spd. btw and I do commute 401/404 then another 6K local traffic ~_~

[arco]

We were never promised 40mpg mixed. What are you talking about?I think 31mpg for mixed driving in winter is pretty darned good.

Heh. 31mpg in any season is pretty darned good.

[Driving Instructor]

I just added the specs directly from the canadian website.......

[bikeman]

The information about the unreliability of these mileage figures has been out, even in the mainstream press, for years. I was quite surprised at how close to those figures our Versa was on the highway. What's a puzzle to me is the wide discrepancy in the actual use figures reported here. I'd expect, based on what I've read here, that stop & go driving is not what the Versa does best when it comes to gas mileage. You must have purchased the Versa when it was relatively new on the market. That's a heck of a gamble under any circumstance.

David

[my_new_v]

I dont have the CVT but I still have the sticker that came with my car that says the gas mileage. I have the 6spd and on the stick it said 28 in town and 32 on highway, ive been getting that no problem. I remember on the ones with CVT it said 28/36.

And anything can affect your mileage...traffic, weather, roads conditions, etc.

[bikeman]

And anything can affect your mileage...traffic, weather, roads conditions, etc.

Of course but some folks are reporting ridiculously low numbers. There's a variable that has yet to be pinned down.

David

[Kokanee]

Just took a drive from Kingston to Ottawa and back on Saturday, and I got about 350km to half a tank, which works out to about 36mpg. 120kph the whole way.

Brand new Versa bought in February.

[frankoV]

Ok.. Canadian figures....... you can convert

565 kilometres 43 litres. = 7.6 litres for 100 km's...

around 31 mpg...Where is this estimated 40 mpg?

btw, 7.6l/100km = 37 IMP MPG

[frankoV]

Just took a drive from Kingston to Ottawa and back on Saturday, and I got about 350km to half a tank, which works out to about 36mpg. 120kph the whole way.

Brand new Versa bought in February.

Did you fill up afterwards or are you basing on the gas gauge?

Mine has a smaller second-half tank.

[habu]

I have an 08 Versa w/CVT. My sticker estimated 33MPG highway. I consistently get 32-34 MPG. It is all in how you drive the car.

If you are not getting the mileage you expect and the dealer has checked your car out, you need to take a long look at how you drive. Accelerate slowly, use cruise control whenever possible, don't go faster than 60MPH, try to keep RPM's at or below 2000, stay out of the left lane- you will drive smoother in the right. If you do this you will get good gas mileage.

I am not trying to flame bait here, just being honest.

[bikeman]

don't go faster than 60MPH,

I follow this religiously. On my bicycle, for which my top speed ever was 59mpg. There is no way I would drive a car at the same speed I can ride a bicycle. Why bother?

stay out of the left lane-

Then I'd be rear ending those poor folks in the right lane.

I am not trying to flame bait here, just being honest.

I can get mileage close to yours without becoming a little old lady. YMMV.

David

[habu]

Then I'd be rear ending those poor folks in the right lane.

David

Exactly!! Thank you!

When the car makers run the mileage tests they drive like little old ladies. If you are unwilling to drive like they do, you will not get similar results.

[bikeman]

Exactly!! If you are unwilling to drive like they do, you will not get similar results.

But I am getting similar results as are lots of others. What I've been referring to are folks who are getting results that aren't even remotely what most of us are getting. Unless all of them are grossly mistaken about their driving habits, there needs to be an explanation that has evaded both us and Nissan so far. I don't have the answer but it certainly is not driving <60mph.

David

[kc5f]

I don't have the answer but it certainly is not driving <60mph.

Got to agree. About 70% of my driving is between 72 and 76 mph, and I'm passing more than being passed. But I don't need to get to speed in 4 seconds, either...

I still think climate has a lot to do with it, since we're on summer formula gas already but my mileage always gets even better as the temperature warms up.

[habu]

Unless all of them are grossly mistaken about their driving habits, there needs to be an explanation that has evaded both us and Nissan so far. I don't have the answer but it certainly is not driving <60mph.

David

The driving habits are most probably the answer.

In order for these people to be getting the poor mileage they claim the engines would have to be running very rich. I just can't believe that. There are too many parameters that are continuously monitored for this to go undetected by the engine's control system. If the car has been taken to the dealer and a full diagnostic has been run with no faults. It's time to look for an answer somewhere else.

I am an engineer by trade. There is an old saying about troubleshooting, "the obvious answer is usually the correct one". Unlike most of the problems you read about on this forum, no mechanical fix has ever been found for this issue, at least that I have been able to find. And if you go to other car forums you almost always find people complaining about mileage. These people are looking for an answer to their problem and dancing around that answer in order to not hurt feelings does them no good.

[frankoV]

The driving habits are most probably the answer.

I wish. I thought that when I became the "principal driver" [when my kids were no longer driving] my mileage would go up exponentially. Nope.

I'm the only driver now and mileage is still pathetic. And believe me -- I'm not a hard driver. Even my wife thinks that I at times drive like an old lady [apologies, all ladies who might consider themselves old].

Easing off from start. "Gliding" to a stop. Paying attention to traffic around me so that I don't accelerate hard. Cruise on at 110 [~65 mph] on the highway.

I get the same mileage in the V as I did in my Villager; same driving technique.

[srellim234]

frankohabs- try hitting about 2100 rpms and holding it there while you accelerate. My CVT gets worse mileage around town when I ease it lower than 2000 while accelerating. It won't pull any mileage if you run it higher than that, either.

My complaints stem from the pure city driving aspect of this car as well as aerodynamics. It has nothing to do with driving style. Stop and go, lots of lights and stop signs, NO chance to get to a speed that allows you to get to use the cruise and gas mileage is going to be less than 25 pretty much no matter what you do.

I just got back from trip to Florida from here. Used cruise control 95% of the time, set at the speed limit wherever I was. Southern New Mexico is flat and 75 mph. Got 36 mpg going east; 29 mpg going west. The only variable was the wind.

In Florida on I-98 I pulled over 40 mpg over a 110 mile stretch of perfectly flat, almost no traffic stops 45-55 mph speeds. That pretty much indicates what the car does best.

For the entire trip the average was 32.9 mpg. On the way down I encountered crosswinds/headwinds for over 950 miles. Coming back there were maybe 300 miles of tough winds but they were almost completely headwinds that the car really had to pull hard to get through.

Now that I'm back home, I expect the car to return to the 25 mpg range that I get in my local driving here. Lots of stop signs and signals and lots of traffic.

[IMHungry]

Hi,New owner here. Just did my first fill up and got 7.9L/100km. Pretty happy with that since the car's not broken in yet and we're still in winter.

[longo]

"where the "40 MPG's" come from?

Check page A14 of the 2008 Canadian Fuel Consumtion Guide.

Under Versa, you will find the CVT is rated at.....47 mpg highway!

[Driving Instructor]

"where the "40 MPG's" come from?

Check page A14 of the 2008 Canadian Fuel Consumtion Guide.

Under Versa, you will find the CVT is rated at.....47 mpg highway!

ooops even worst.. lol

I usually get around 10.5 litres per 100 kms in town. That I would say is the average.

[revversa]

Try hitting 2100 rpm

New versa owner sedan cvt with 1800 miles in car. From reading other threads here I have been trying to keep it at 2000 rpm until I hit driving speed and then I hit the cruise button. Just filled went 227.7 miles on 7.2 gallons topped off as my last fill was topped. Got 31.6mpg. About 100 miles of that was highway at 70-75 mph. The balance of the miles was suburban driving mixed with some county roads where i can drive 45 mph for 5 miles before I would hit a traffic light. Overall I have gotten any where from 28.4 mpg (1st tank) to 31.7mpg best tank.

[frankoV]

In to the dealer today for the first oil change. Snidely asked if my mileage is going to improve from the ridiculous number I get now as opposed to what is in the brochure. He said "don't expect it" (at least he was honest). Said that a lot of people have complained about real-life mileage as compared to what Nissan advertises (and that as of this week the advertised numbers are going down). Said "all you can really do is call Nissan and complain" (though he also said he'd check to make sure everything was tuned right). Then he said not to expect Nissan to say or do anything.

[how do you respond to that?]

[Driving Instructor]

HOw much mielage on your car. My car sucked even worst for the first 20 000 kms........ after that, it was much better. It's like a conspiracy... lol

[frankoV]

First oil change; 5200 km.

I know, I know . . . patience. So I'll wait a bit longer . . . but what I'd like to do is

[Ever Victorious]

"where the "40 MPG's" come from?

Check page A14 of the 2008 Canadian Fuel Consumtion Guide.

Under Versa, you will find the CVT is rated at.....47 mpg highway!

So THAT'S where all the crack went... Canada's been smoking it all!

All of my important fuel economy data is in my sig. I'm not a hugely cautious driver, but I'm not Fast and Furious either. I just drive... well, normal.

I see a SMALL (1-2mpg) improvement if I baby the crap out of the car and watch my shifting to compensate for the DBW lag, but putting that much thought into it just isn't worth it to me.

I think everyone (including the engineers) expected the CVT to be the most efficient transmission in the car. It's not, the 6-speed is.

[Onyxblue]

I have 5500 miles on my 2008 SL w/ CVT and I am getting 31 to 33 mpg, all highway (North Seattle to Fife - EV knows what I am talking about ), 80 miles per day, 50 % with cruise control at 70-80mph.

[superskunk]

ive only gotten 40 once so far. it was hard to get that seeing as how i live in LA, we are famous for traffic... but yeah i did get 40 for half a tank and then just f*cked off the other half....