OFFICIAL: NicoClub's Rally 240SX, by Finnish Fury Rallysport

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OFFICIAL: NicoClub's Rally 240SX, by Finnish Fury Rallysport

Postby FlatBlackIan » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:55 pm

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With my S14 gone, its time for a new project, and this time, Im doing everything different. Turbo power, who needs it. Slammed ride height, not a chance. Roll cage and dirt tires, now we are talking.

Things started the way many projects start. I picked up a reasonably clean 1991 240SX SE hatch. Its a rolling shell in good condition. It has a small amount of rust here and there, but nothing I cant take care of. The previous owner pulled the blown the KA with plans for an SR, but lost interest.

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Got her off the trailer, and into her home for the next 6 months or so.

Anybody want a clean set of charcoal Spec V wheels? 2 of them have brand new 205 40 17 tires on them. They can go as soon as I find something for the car to roll on during the build.

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Before leaving for the weekend, I took a moment to get her a little tipsy.

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I took off for the weekend to LSPR, but I got right down to work today.

First things first, I needed to gut the interior in preperation for the roll cage. Besides the torn OE leather seats, the interior is in great shape. Not for long.

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Clean, uncracked dash.

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First to come out were the seats. The carpet is dirty as all getout.

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Under the rear seat I discovered a 90s vintage car phone booster.

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Gauge helping.

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Then went the dash

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Followed by the dash support.

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He loves that screw gun.

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Next the headliner, and all the plastics.

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No more nasty carpet.

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I also pulled all the seatbelt stuff out.

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Discovered a rust hole in the floor behind the drivers seat. That will have to get patched up.

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The spare tire well looked rusty, but on further inspection, its solid, not even any surface rust.

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Now its time for the no fun stuff. Sound deadening has to come out. This stuff is nasty, and normally is a huge pain to get out. Luckily for me, the stuff in the hatch, and under the rear seat came out like cake.

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Some surface rust, but nothing a little POR 15 wont conquer.

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I tackled the passenger floor next, it turned out to be a little tougher. I spent twice the time just doing this side of the floor.

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And that is a days work. I will have to finish up the sound deadening later this week, maybe this weekend. Hopefully my POR will come in, and I can dig into the rust, and get the car to the cage builder.

Every part of the interior is for sale, except the dash and center console. If you see something you like, send me an email. The power seatbelts worked when the came out, and they are for sale as well.
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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby fun240 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:01 pm

NICE

Keep us posted!

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (fukin240)

Postby Brandon1605 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:07 pm

Whats your email?

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby FlatBlackIan » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:12 pm

My Plans

Since Im sure many of you will ask, Im going to lay out my plans right away.

This car is being prepared to run in the Rally-America performance rally series. I will mainly be competing in the Midwest events.

I am building the car to fit into Group 2. This means a low displacement 4 cylinder engine, driving only 2 wheels.

Right now, a cage is first on the list. Once that is done, I will be looking for a set of FIA spec seats, and an engine. For the engine, I intend to run an NA SR20DE.

The suspension is still up in the air. The control arms will remain stock, but I have to find a set of coilovers to fit my needs. Something soft enough to suck up major rocks, and give me decent grip on gravel, while stiff enough to stay off the bump stops over jumps, crests, kicks, and the like. Im looking at Hotbits, or possibly Leda's.

Thats it for tonight.
Brandon1605 wrote:Whats your email?
Its in my profile.

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby ZootedS13 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:15 pm

FlatBlackIan wrote:My Plans

Since Im sure many of you will ask, Im going to lay out my plans right away.

This car is being prepared to run in the Rally-America performance rally series. I will mainly be competing in the Midwest event.

I am building the car to fit into Group 2. This means a low displacement 2 cylinder engine, driving only 2 wheels.

Right now, a cage is first on the list. Once that is done, I will be looking for a set of FIA spec seats, and an engine. For the engine, I intend to run an NA SR20DE.

The suspension is still up in the air. The control arms will remain stock, but I have to find a set of coilovers to fit my needs. Something soft enough to suck up major rocks, and give me decent grip on gravel, while stiff enough to stay off the bump stops over jumps, crests, kicks, and the like. Im looking at Hotbits, or possibly Leda's.

Thats it for tonight.

Its in my profile.
correct me if im wrong but the sr20de is a 4 cylinder. it says u have to run a 2? or is that just a typo?

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (ZootedS13)

Postby FlatBlackIan » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:17 pm

ZootedS13 wrote:
correct me if im wrong but the sr20de is a 4 cylinder. it says u have to run a 2? or is that just a typo?
Hahahaha, damn, you caught me, I already edited it.

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Postby AZ89two4Tsx » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:51 pm

The S14 is gone.

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Postby musashin » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:27 pm

I love this idea.

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Postby FlatBlackIan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:35 am

AZ89two4Tsx wrote:The S14 is gone.
Its been a long time coming. Its ok, there are better things to come.

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Postby King Ranzo » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:41 am

Hey Ian I'll trade you my steelies for the Spec V wheels

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Postby Dittoz7 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:27 am

Need More Dirt!

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby the_momo » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:45 am

Have you thought about doing a set of custom valved koni yellows and gc's with a soft spring? That might be a inexpensive way to get a custom tailored suspension.

Just a thought. also love the idea. Cant wait to see this in action. Ive been contemplating on doing something similar with my golf once its daily services are no longer required.

Good luck sir!

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Postby numbnuts240 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:55 am

fbi ftw. one question, though....will it be flat black?

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (the_momo)

Postby FlatBlackIan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:14 am

the_momo wrote:Have you thought about doing a set of custom valved koni yellows and gc's with a soft spring? That might be a inexpensive way to get a custom tailored suspension.

Just a thought. also love the idea. Cant wait to see this in action. Ive been contemplating on doing something similar with my golf once its daily services are no longer required.

Good luck sir!
Yes that is another option. Either Koni's or Bilstiens are in the running. For the same price I could have 2 full sets of custom valved dampers, and a couple sets of springs. With a little creative swapping I could have an extremely versatile suspension.

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby Brandon1605 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:27 am

I could be wrong here, but when I look under your profile, I see no email. Sorry if Im missing it, I have a bad habit of totally missing s*** thats right in front of my face, lol.

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (Brandon1605)

Postby FlatBlackIan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:54 am

Brandon1605 wrote:I could be wrong here, but when I look under your profile, I see no email. Sorry if Im missing it, I have a bad habit of totally missing s*** thats right in front of my face, lol.
Click on my username, that will bring you to my profile. My email is listed there, its similar to my username.

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby Koshin » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:11 am

how much did you get outta the s14?

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (Koshin)

Postby FlatBlackIan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:20 am

Koshin wrote:how much did you get outta the s14?
$6K plus this shell.

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby baron_harkkonen » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:06 am

Hey clean lookin body. So you gonna use it for a dirt track car, or sumthin else?

E-mail sent.

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby Koshin » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:30 am

FlatBlackIan wrote:
$6K plus this shell.
nice....thats good monies out of that car...congrats

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Postby Ajax » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:35 am

Subscribed. I gotta get out and help out when I can. Need a VLSD? I've got one with your name on it if you help me swap to HLSD. And any other bits I can let go of.I'll call you this weekend.

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Postby nissanman04 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:46 am

Very cool, I want to turn my legacy wagon into a rally beater once its DD duties are over (i.e. when I finally get an engineering position ).

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Postby mattblancarte » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:34 am

You're gonna put this puppy up against Travis Pastrana and Ken Block?

Super cool idea. Can't wait to see how it turns out!

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Postby Razi » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:16 am

You should paint it like this.

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Postby troskinatior » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:29 am

my 2 favorite things, rally, and 240sxthis is going to be a sweet buildgood luck

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (FlatBlackIan)

Postby the_momo » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:41 am

FlatBlackIan wrote:
Yes that is another option. Either Koni's or Bilstiens are in the running. For the same price I could have 2 full sets of custom valved dampers, and a couple sets of springs. With a little creative swapping I could have an extremely versatile suspension.
Ive also thought maybe an inboard pushbar style suspension (at least for the rear) would be rather effective for rally, being that it helps shift some unsprung weight to a more central location, as well as provides a marginal bit of protection to your rear suspension.

I would also say that given the myriad of different products that qa1 makes you could probably get a few different systems to suit your needs that you can change and tune without even removing the wheels. If it were easier to do for the front i would say this would be the ticket.

you could probably even get some extra suspension travel without having to raise the car a ridiculous amount, via different mounting points on your bellcranks.

Just a thought.

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (the_momo)

Postby justinedible4 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:22 am

looks like a fun build man!I have subscribed!


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Postby captainfalco » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:37 pm

Are you going to run like studded snow tires on this or what?

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (captainfalco)

Postby fishpony » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:57 pm

Sent you an email about the wheels and have a motor you might be interested in. Let me know.

Oh and looks like an interesting build! good luck!

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Re: Project: Play in the dirt, because pavement is for sissies. (the_momo)

Postby FlatBlackIan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:17 pm

the_momo wrote:
Ive also thought maybe an inboard pushbar style suspension (at least for the rear) would be rather effective for rally, being that it helps shift some unsprung weight to a more central location, as well as provides a marginal bit of protection to your rear suspension.

I would also say that given the myriad of different products that qa1 makes you could probably get a few different systems to suit your needs that you can change and tune without even removing the wheels. If it were easier to do for the front i would say this would be the ticket.

you could probably even get some extra suspension travel without having to raise the car a ridiculous amount, via different mounting points on your bellcranks.

Just a thought.
Its a good idea in theory, but not a viable one for me. For my class, all suspension mounting points must remain in the factory postions. No pushrod, rosebud, or remote systems. Not to mention the cost. Im going for a budget build. The most important thing to me, is getting the car log booked, and competition ready.

The wheels aren't for sale just yet guys. I dont even know what shape they are in. I wouldnt want to sell someone a bent to hell wheel.


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