telcoman wrote:Perhaps it has something to do with the Iraq invasion, thousands killed, many more thousands wounded, no WMD, destroying the US economy, the huge debt increase by failing to raise taxes to pay for the two wars, medicare part D, and numerous others.
We've got plenty of pissed off people and that is why the upcoming election is so important
We are going to find out which group is pissed off the most to choose our next president.
And don't forget the 19 million that would lose their newly acquired healthcare under a republican win in November
How many of those hearing republican candidates speak of repealing the ACA are going to vote for them?
Telcoman
I hope you have the same outrage for the Obama "Death Without A Trial" process ... that he ordered escalated secretly (and the Justice Department continues to block attempts to get good data and oversight).
From this site:
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2 ... ly-update/
Using facts, rather than clueless assertions, this is the CIA drone attack data from one country (Pakistan) alone - let alone the others in Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, etc.:
Bush 2004 - 1
Bush 2005 - 3
Bush 2006 - 2
Bush 2007 - 5
Bush 2008 - 38
Obama 2009 - 54
Obama 2010 - 128
Obama 2011 - 75
Obama 2012 - 50
Obama 2013 - 27
Obama 2014 - 25
Obama 2015 - 13
Obama 2016 - 1
In these strikes, nearly 4000 people have been killed in Pakistan, and another 1700 injured.
By US government estimates, nearly 1000 were
known innocent civilians (including more than 200 children). The US government declares that the others were
not civilians ... a "fact" that is disputed by many experts, BTW!
From this article:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... n-afghani/ you can see the following:
Obama-led drone strikes kill innocent civilians 90% of the time
Ryan Devereaux, a journalist with the website, reported that “During one five-month period of the operation, according to the documents, nearly 90 percent of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets.”
Nevertheless, the U.S. government considers many of these casualties to be enemy combatants, according to the the source, despite the strikes more often than not ending in the deaths of women, children and other civilians who become collateral damage of targeted attacks and are subsequently written off as adversaries killed during war, regardless of status.
Hina Shamsi, director of the ACLU National Security Project, condemned the revelations: “The Obama administration’s lethal program desperately needs transparency and accountability because it is undermining the right to life and national security.”
“These eye-opening disclosures make a mockery of U.S. government claims that its lethal force operations are based on reliable intelligence and limited to lawful targets. In fact, the government often claims successes that are really tragic losses,” Ms. Shamsi added.
This site calls it
"The Children Killed by America’s Drones. “Crimes Against Humanity” committed by Barack H. Obama.:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-childr ... ma/5320570
The data on attacks from another site - this was quoted (sourced) in the NY Times article below too:
Even your favorite source, the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/world ... l-die.html says the following:
Every independent investigation of the strikes has found far more civilian casualties than administration officials admit. Gradually, it has become clear that when operators in Nevada fire missiles into remote tribal territories on the other side of the world, they often do not know who they are killing, but are making an imperfect best guess.
But over the Obama presidency, it has become harder for journalists to obtain information from the government on the results of particular strikes. And Mr. Obama’s Justice Department has fought in court for years to keep secret the legal opinions justifying strikes.
There are traumatized kids:
http://www.channel4.com/news/drone-atta ... f-children as a result of our efforts:
He gave the example of eight-year-old Yasmin (not her real name), who was next door to a house targeted in a presumed drone strike.
"Her father said that she vomits every day, and also when she hears aircraft, or drones, or anything related," said Dr Schaapveld. "She said, in her own words, 'I am scared of those things because they throw missiles.'".
This is all from our Nobel Peace Prize Winner ... I wonder if the Nobel selection committee stays up nights at all questioning their decision?
So ... what are your thoughts on this Obama-led drone campaign? Do you think it is okay for Obama to order killing people in other nations abroad ... without any trial? If so, what about the 45 in the above list from Pakistan
who were US citizens?
Do you see why many nations outside the US
also consider him the worst POTUS we have ever had? Do you see why
we drive people into terrorism as the only way for a poor person to try to retaliate against a country that kills innocent people remotely with $60,000 drones - each one of which costs more than that person would make in their lifetime?
Z
PS, I would
never consider voting for Hillary Clinton for the same reason ... she is equally guilty of the same crime during her tenure as Secretary of State.