This is absolute truth. However, with recent developments, her being set on a Pathfinder after the list of potentials I'm tossing at her is an extremely unlikely scenario.PapaSmurf2k3 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:45 pmI can't believe you'd let your wife get a Pathfinder knowing all the issues it's got, along with the MASSIVE depreciation it will have.
Some things affect you too, you know!
The CX-9 is such an awesome SUV for the money. Out of everything else you listed, the only thing I’d have a hard time not picking over it would be the 4 Runner, but only if it were for me to drive. The wife would get the CX-9 easily, because she loves everything about her CX-5 aside from lack of cargo space. Mazda keeps knocking it out of the park with every new model IMHO. I can’t wait for the new Mazda 6 with the CX-9 engine to drop.RicerX wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:21 amWill say this... knock on wood, our 2015 Rogue is fine, but the powertrain warranty expired on it last week (already hit 60,000 miles) so it's likely we're trading it soon (need something bigger anyway). I need to get my Titan back and settle with insurance before I even visit that. In light of such, we have begun test driving nearly everything but a Nissan. The Mazda CX-9 is absolutely fantastic and might even be my top pick for a three row crossover in that segment. She really likes the Pathfinder and at the end of the day, if Momma really wants that, that's what I'm buying her, but the second it begins to give us trouble and leaves my wife and kid stranded somewhere, the jig is up. It will get ONE chance and one chance only, and that's only if I've exhausted all other options. Right now, the Acura MDX, CX-9, Pathfinder, QX60, and Toyota 4Runner are among those we have driven and liked, and I'd entertain the Infiniti because Infiniti knows if their customer service sucks they'll just get finished off by Lexus and the Germans. They can't afford not to take care of their existing owners. Nissan can, for now.
Same here. I would have no issue driving a Ram at all. Dodge really has had my attention for a couple of years now and I keep liking what I see. Still a little hesitant to own one, but they make a lot less boring crap than Nissan currently does.I'm genuinely impressed by what they showed in Detroit last week. The brand new Titan is now already a full generation behind those trucks... that didn't last long at all. Their updates are absolutely superb.
Please tell me more about your mostly terrible Rav4..... keep in mind it's a rental, rarely driven like someone owns it.RicerX wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:28 amIn other news, my 2017 Rav4 rental is mostly terrible. XLE AWD trim. The one thing it does is have going for it an infotainment system that doesn't take fourteen years to boot up and rear seats that fold down in such a way that you gain nearly a foot of vertical space because they go into the floor. The Rogue is terrible at that.
Ah yes, I never considered that it was a rental car. Silly me! I take it all back!wa-chiss wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:42 pmPlease tell me more about your mostly terrible Rav4..... keep in mind it's a rental, rarely driven like someone owns it.RicerX wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:28 amIn other news, my 2017 Rav4 rental is mostly terrible. XLE AWD trim. The one thing it does is have going for it an infotainment system that doesn't take fourteen years to boot up and rear seats that fold down in such a way that you gain nearly a foot of vertical space because they go into the floor. The Rogue is terrible at that.
Where the f*** did you think you were, a Toyota forum?wa-chiss wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:08 pm
At least you don't have any "REAL" concerns with it. I mean, I was worried you had some actual issues with the car when I saw your post instead of some jargon on how it's not your Rogue. That's really what I meant about keeping in mind it's a rental. I wonder if you can take it back to the rental company and ask for a Rogue.
In no way is this an excuse, but It's amazing how a bad week can affect your mood so much. I've honestly had only like 3-4 hours of sleep a night for the past week. My wife and I have a 2yr old boy (sleeps all night thank god) and 9 month old twin boys who are teething and won't sleep unless being held. I spent the later part of the week at work with headphones in and not talking to anybody to prevent my frustration coming to the surface. So yeah..... it finally came out.centralcoaster33 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:05 pmWow wa-chiss, that was weird. You asked for RicerX's opinion, he kindly obliged, instead of thanking him or respecting his opinion, you broke it down into pieces and belittled, ignored or questioned the legitimacy of each part. You're right, you didn't insinuate he can't have an opinion, you straight told him his opinion isn't "REAL" and insinuated he's a fool. You're behavior is offensive by definition, therefor it's quite understandable that he is offended. Asking someones opinion and then shredding it to bits is a jerk move. You, being the good guy I'm sure you are, might want to read the posts again later, agree to disagree, and consider apologizing for the behavior (especially in your own circle of 'friends and acquaintences').
Being a Dad to a two year old who got about 2 hours of sleep last night after working overtime all weekend, I GET IT. Thankfully, bitching on a car forum about silly opinions is a far better alternative that other less healthy/destructive means of dealing with stress and lack of sleep, so if that's the worst it's gotten, you're doing ok.wa-chiss wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:01 pmIn no way is this an excuse, but It's amazing how a bad week can affect your mood so much. I've honestly had only like 3-4 hours of sleep a night for the past week. My wife and I have a 2yr old boy (sleeps all night thank god) and 9 month old twin boys who are teething and won't sleep unless being held. I spent the later part of the week at work with headphones in and not talking to anybody to prevent my frustration coming to the surface. So yeah..... it finally came out.centralcoaster33 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:05 pmWow wa-chiss, that was weird. You asked for RicerX's opinion, he kindly obliged, instead of thanking him or respecting his opinion, you broke it down into pieces and belittled, ignored or questioned the legitimacy of each part. You're right, you didn't insinuate he can't have an opinion, you straight told him his opinion isn't "REAL" and insinuated he's a fool. You're behavior is offensive by definition, therefor it's quite understandable that he is offended. Asking someones opinion and then shredding it to bits is a jerk move. You, being the good guy I'm sure you are, might want to read the posts again later, agree to disagree, and consider apologizing for the behavior (especially in your own circle of 'friends and acquaintences').
RicerX, I give you my apology. I hope I can convince you I really am a nice guy, I just vented in the wrong way to someone who didn't deserve it.
Awesome. Yes, I was able to get a full 8 that night. Thanks to family stepping in. My mother in law, who's also our daycare provider, took the twins for the night.RicerX wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:06 amBeing a Dad to a two year old who got about 2 hours of sleep last night after working overtime all weekend, I GET IT. Thankfully, bitching on a car forum about silly opinions is a far better alternative that other less healthy/destructive means of dealing with stress and lack of sleep, so if that's the worst it's gotten, you're doing ok.wa-chiss wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:01 pm
In no way is this an excuse, but It's amazing how a bad week can affect your mood so much. I've honestly had only like 3-4 hours of sleep a night for the past week. My wife and I have a 2yr old boy (sleeps all night thank god) and 9 month old twin boys who are teething and won't sleep unless being held. I spent the later part of the week at work with headphones in and not talking to anybody to prevent my frustration coming to the surface. So yeah..... it finally came out.
RicerX, I give you my apology. I hope I can convince you I really am a nice guy, I just vented in the wrong way to someone who didn't deserve it.
We're good. Hopefully you get some rest soon.
Unfortunately, Nissan isn't alone in this business model. I'm sure all do the same, I know Toyota gives warranty enhancements (extensions) for a lot of things that could be deemed wear items for anyone. Like they now cover u- joints for Tacoma from like 07-12 for 12 years unlimited milked. Just did a set today on an 09 with almost 200k miles. Toyota footed the bill. But 1 day out of 12 years, "sorry you had your chance." I've done dashes in Camry, sienna, and 4 runner all for cracking covered by a warranty enhancements.rowlands57 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:59 amExcellent post. To help any possible future buyers from making the CVT mistake let me add that my 2011 Rogue suffered a failure. The 'support' from Nissan was pathetic. They even extended the warranty for previous models of the Rogue and cut off a year before mine. Same POS CVT I'm sure, but for some reason no help offered under that plan for the more recent customers. So I'm out of pocket for the fix and installation of the proper cooler that should be on all models with this transmission right out of the factory. Cost cutting at it's finest, good job Nissan!
A Nissan will never cross the threshold of my garage in the future; and I hope this thread saves some poor soul down the road avoid the same fate of all the folks on this thread.
There's still a few good cars out there. I'm pretty satisfied with my newest purchases (C7 vette and Ford Focus ST... both stick shift), however I really can't find anything in the pickup market that interests me. EVERYTHING is WAAAAYYYY too huge right now. Even the newer midsize trucks are too damn big.
This so much.PapaSmurf2k3 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 pmEven the newer midsize trucks are too damn big.
The Frontier, which is almost old enough to buy cigarettes and p0rn is actually starting to become appealing just because everything else is so damn massive. Even that truck is too big though.
I have had two truck projects on my mind lately:
No, but it's not WORSE, despite making SIGNIFICANTLY more power. THAT is the point. I'm not talking about an engine swap. I'm talking about Nissan doing things right (or not) in the first place. Should be a factory option. Why put a smaller motor in something if there's no benefit whatsoever? Displacement is not the inverse of efficiency and I wish automakers would quit acting like it is.Kompresshun wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:29 pmThe VK56 does swap into the Frontier, Pathfinder, and Xterra but I don't know that I'd bother. It's fuel economy isn't much better.
I wish it were an option too, but it doesn't appear they're ever going that direction. Obviously most of the automakers aside from Dodge give a s*** about real power across their lineup.MinisterofDOOM wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:37 pmNo, but it's not WORSE, despite making SIGNIFICANTLY more power. THAT is the point. I'm not talking about an engine swap. I'm talking about Nissan doing things right (or not) in the first place. Should be a factory option. Why put a smaller motor in something if there's no benefit whatsoever? Displacement is not the inverse of efficiency and I wish automakers would quit acting like it is.Kompresshun wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:29 pmThe VK56 does swap into the Frontier, Pathfinder, and Xterra but I don't know that I'd bother. It's fuel economy isn't much better.
My Pathfinder averages around 14-15mpg, but i'm hard on it most of the time too, so I can't exactly be upset at it.AZhitman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:08 pmOur Fronty got 16-20mpg, and the Titan gets 15-19. I drove the Fronty harder (since it handled way better).
To be fair, absent the automatic, the 4-liter was plenty of power for the Fronty... enough such that she'd boil 20's all the way thru first and chirp 2nd hard.
You shut your whore mouth
Funny story, we traded in an 09 altima for the sentra. It was absolutely worse than the sentra. The CVT didn't do anything "weird" like the sentra but just didn't feel right. Just no power and lack of response. Of course it was coupled to the horridly underpowered 2.5L.PapaSmurf2k3 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 pmThere's still a few good cars out there. I'm pretty satisfied with my newest purchases (C7 vette and Ford Focus ST... both stick shift), however I really can't find anything in the pickup market that interests me. EVERYTHING is WAAAAYYYY too huge right now. Even the newer midsize trucks are too damn big.
The Frontier, which is almost old enough to buy cigarettes and p0rn is actually starting to become appealing just because everything else is so damn massive. Even that truck is too big though.
Anyway yeah, I worked on an 09 Altima tonight (wheel bearing, brakes, etc). Took it for a diagnostic spin and the CVT is acting funky. Doesn't seem to want to disengage coming to a stop, makes the engine bog/almost stall, etc. Told the owner I wouldn't put too much money into it, which apparently made her upset cos she just bought it. Ooops. Oh well.