Wow, I bet that's a gem. I'm in Arizona - I'll be happy to post a photo once it is able to be washed, lol!sandydennis11 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:58 amGood morning... I have a '96 Q45. Bought new in 1995. Start searching and stocking parts because they are becoming few and far between. Good thing you are a DIY guy because I'm not and have put about 28 grand in this Q in the past 7 years. Still love it though.
Where are you located? Can you post pictures of your Q?
Good luck
Absolutely, this is on my list of diagnostics to run as well! If that was the issue I would be curious to know how that kicked back the misfire and CPS codes and randomly lost fuel pressure while idling after 100+ miles though!
I'm in AZ as well - North Phoenix specifically.garageascent wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:09 pmWow, I bet that's a gem. I'm in Arizona - I'll be happy to post a photo once it is able to be washed, lol!
Nice! I've seen a handful of G50 and Y33s around the state since I've become familiar with both. It would be awesome to organize a meet/cruise for everyone once the weather isn't so deadlyRyantzer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 pmI'm in AZ as well - North Phoenix specifically.garageascent wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:09 pmWow, I bet that's a gem. I'm in Arizona - I'll be happy to post a photo once it is able to be washed, lol!
To be honest I've called Infiniti of Scottsdale a dozen times or so and every time I've called they don't seem too interested in helping and are always tiers more expensive compared to other dealerships in the area or online for OEM parts. I'm not sure if I'm just not getting the right rep or if it's just been a bad day every time I call. Sad because I've heard nothing but good things about them and would love to have a good local source for parts.sandydennis11 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:53 pmI bought many parts for Q through Infiniti of Scottsdale.
Talk to the parts department staff and find what they might have for your Q.
Especially ask if they have a package of all the small hose etc. that goes under the Plenum. It was 800 dollars years ago and my tech did a great job replacing everything.
Also look for a new Air Throttle Hose. I think I bought the last one in the world on Ebay last month. My Q failed the California smog test last month because of a crack in the Air Throttle hose. Also replace all the coils with OEM's only. Oh and try to buy the fuel control and the OEM fuel pump. GOOD LUCK
have fun. What color in and out?
IoS used to be the place to go. Joe moved on, nissan doesn't have love for their one time flagship.garageascent wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:13 pm
To be honest I've called Infiniti of Scottsdale a dozen times or so and every time I've called they don't seem too interested in helping and are always tiers more expensive compared to other dealerships in the area or online for OEM parts. I'm not sure if I'm just not getting the right rep or if it's just been a bad day every time I call. Sad because I've heard nothing but good things about them and would love to have a good local source for parts.
If it turns out I have to replace the coils I'm going to swap to the Audi R8 coils via the performanceVH kit.
Pearl White exterior and tan interior (not sure of the correct name).
Ah, that’s a good catch. I may have been misspeaking as the VH kit advises you can use the ornamental cover. Their coils are just labeled as “Imported Bosch Audi/VW coils” so they may be the shorty ones you are referring to.3Q Jay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:48 pm
IoS used to be the place to go. Joe moved on, nissan doesn't have love for their one time flagship.
Plus I think Joe once told me they weren't set up to do local sales, only out of state internet (might have been sales tax, but this was 15+ years ago so don't quote me).
For OE parts, your best bet is Amayama (Japan). Freight is pricey though, especially for heavy items.
The oil tracking is not good on your CAS, but I can't say that the one smear shown in the photo would be your culprit. but if there's a smear, then the optical sensor (not exposed in photo) might also be obscured. the voltage on the one pin is not sufficient indicator, you need to see "alternating current" as the wheel spins. Photo *looks* to be aftermarket. OE ones were hitachi and had a silver sticker on the forward face of the black cap. two versions. 96 would use the later version (only a single 4-pin connector on the CAS housing, vs. '94 and earlier with a second connector on a pigtail).
If you go the Audi R8 coils, be aware that 1) they are tall and you likely won't re-use the ornamental covers 2) the pinout is different than the VAG "shorty" coils.
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One of the bolt ears snapped, which, out of the things that could snap or break I would much rather that then the offset key - I’m not really sure why I was having such a miserable time with lining up the offset key. I had no line of sight to see the camshaft but I could feel where the slots were for the offset key and couldn’t get it to line up. Tried rotating the offset key 180 and probably spent an hour doing so and just could not get it. Finally thought I did and put a little tension on the bolts and then snap, the bolt ear is sheared off. That tells me that I didn’t have it lined up and the bolt ear was the weakest point. I’m going to order a new CPS and give it another go, let’s hope I don’t break this one too.3Q Jay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:41 ami'm confused. the slightly wiggly piece with the offset key that engages the camshaft is what broke? or one of the two 'ears' where the bolts with the 12mm head go?
you dont need to remove either the radiator or the valve cover. line up the offset key, insert CPS, snug it up. are you asking how to eyeball the base timing before you get a light on it?
That’s good advice. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge!3Q Jay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:06 pmok. when the offset key is aligned, you can (will) push the ears all the way up against the upper chain cover by hand. the only resistance would be the rubber o-ring that seals the CPS body shaft.
PS- you could definitely run the car temporarily with just one of those ear bolts in (if you wanted to try your 'old' CPS again after cleaning it).
I will be removing the upper plenum just for the sake of replacing hoses and knock sensors underneath, send the intake manifold off to be cleaned, and of course to make the VCG job a little less painless in the long run. Did it this way on the FGY33 and although it was extra steps I think it was less frustration in the long run ha!3Q Jay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:08 amgood to hear.
And for those who believe in science....baselines are always appropriate!
I think you are wise to replace the CPS, as the oil didn't get in there without the internal shaft seal leaking.
I couldn't hear the sound very well in your video, but the throttle response seems reasonable. I did notice some 'jitter' in your tacho
Seemed too abrupt to me to be a misfire, more like signal noise. Could this also be CPS contamination related? maybe. Will be interesting to see after you swap CPS.
vcg on G50 significantly less friendly than the FGY33. Maybe you decided to remove upper plenum to do the left bank on your other car, which makes the job cake (other than the work to do the upper plenum). On g50, it IS possible to do the driver's side without removing the octoplenum, but you might consider doing that anyway if you are feeling ambitious, and want to tackle the hoses/knocks. If you DON'T remove the upper plenum, be aware that you will have to at least bend the fresh air pipe that bypasses the throttle body (under it) to snake the valve cover out.
At least you do on TCS cars, maybe its more user friendly on on a 96 and/or non-TCS car. For sure you don't have active hydraulics getting in the way.
One tip on the right bank--remove just the hold down bracket on the low pressure AC pipe (2 10mm heads) that will give you just enough wiggle room without bending the pipe.
Be careful about using the OBD scan to determine ACTUAL engine timing. The ECU is telling you what it is calling for on timing, but because your CAS is adjustable, it sets the mechanical portion of the base timing.garageascent wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:57 pmUPDATE: hooked up my OBDII scanner and identified at idle I am sitting at 650RPMS and 15 degrees of ignition timing. This is right in spec according to FSM. I think for the sake of troubleshooting other problems I can leave this as is and not further adjust timing/idle speed and begin to focus on other things!
That's good information - thanks! I've decided I'm going to go ahead and remove the intake manifold and replace the following parts while I'm in there:3Q Jay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:25 amBe careful about using the OBD scan to determine ACTUAL engine timing. The ECU is telling you what it is calling for on timing, but because your CAS is adjustable, it sets the mechanical portion of the base timing.garageascent wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:57 pmUPDATE: hooked up my OBDII scanner and identified at idle I am sitting at 650RPMS and 15 degrees of ignition timing. This is right in spec according to FSM. I think for the sake of troubleshooting other problems I can leave this as is and not further adjust timing/idle speed and begin to focus on other things!
You still need a timing light to accurately determine this part.
That's great! Fine way to get to know your VH45DE.garageascent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:41 pmI've decided I'm going to go ahead and remove the intake manifold and replace the following parts while I'm in there:
*Compression test prior
*Intake manifold to runner gaskets and sleeves
*Runner to head gaskets
*Knock Sensors
*Coolant return hoses (replacing with silicone)
*Debating a fuel injector rebuild - I'm lucky enough to be next to AUS Injection and they absolutely crush it every time I drop off injectors to be rebuilt so seems silly to not do this while the manifold is off.
*Sending off my intake manifold to be professionally cleaned by a local shop. Hoping this will help clear out the crud from the EGR system and maybe help clear that code, although I am still going to be testing EGR component operations before I make the car undriveable for a bit to confirm whether something simply isn't working.
*Of course valve cover gaskets
*New spark plugs PFR5G-11
*throttle body to intake manifold gasket
Anything else major or recommended to replace while I'm in there? I'm using the FSM exploded view of the engine and seems I've got just about everything but the diagrams can sometimes be deceiving! I'm attempting to have this done in a weekend so am trying to avoid ripping things apart and then finding I forgot to order something.
I have a local source for both the vacuum and fuel genuine Nissan hose - there's a shop that specializes in z cars and they happen to sell both by the foot for a reasonable price vs the large spools I find elsewhere. I'll keep you in mind though if I do go the spool route!3Q Jay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:21 pm
That's great! Fine way to get to know your VH45DE.
As Ryantzer said, there are a lot of other part number specific hoses under there--most now obsolete from US sources--can still get many from Japan.
The 8 upper to lower plenum sleeves (press fit inside rubber O-gaskets) don't need to be replaced, just clean them up.
Recommend you use genuine nissan fuel hose (NISS#A6440-N7686---there is a supersede number)and replace all of those under the octoplenum (4-places).
Bulk nissan vac hose #B2318-N3301. Sold in 5meter bundles, but I have a bunch--I'd trade you for some fuel hose if you buy the big spool of that.
You'll want the AAC valve gasket #23785-60U01 hard to find, but I have a spare.
EGR to upper plenum gasket #14719-W7001
your lower runner to head gaskets are: #14035-1P100 those are getting hard to find. caution that the zenki's used a different lower runner and the gaskets are different.
Watch out for counterfeit knock sensors bearing nissan looking stickers--those are all over fleabay. Same part number as your FGY33 had though.
The only common cause of above-normal compression is carbon buildup on the piston crowns. You might want to consider a serious de-carboning once it's back together.garageascent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:40 pmUPDATE: Did a compression test with all spark plugs and coils out. cylinders tested equally at 180 after four cranks and if I cranked until the PSI maxed out it was in the 210 range. Does the FSM reference 185 as "standard" compression but it is okay if the cylinders max out at a higher compression?
Will do!VStar650CL wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:24 pmThe only common cause of above-normal compression is carbon buildup on the piston crowns. You might want to consider a serious de-carboning once it's back together.garageascent wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:40 pmUPDATE: Did a compression test with all spark plugs and coils out. cylinders tested equally at 180 after four cranks and if I cranked until the PSI maxed out it was in the 210 range. Does the FSM reference 185 as "standard" compression but it is okay if the cylinders max out at a higher compression?