NC SC CHAT

[Redemption1978]

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

Offset

The offset of a wheel is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. The offset can be one of three types.Zero Offset

The hub mounting surface is even with the centerline of the wheel.Positive

The hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front wheel drive cars and newer rear drive cars.Negative

The hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheels centerline. "Deep dish" wheels are typically a negative offset.

If the offset of the wheel is not correct for the car, the handling can be adversely affected. When the width of the wheel changes, the offset also changes numerically. If the offset were to stay the same while you added width, the additional width would be split evenly between the inside and outside. For most cars, this won't work correctly. We have test fitted thousands of different vehicles for proper fitment. Our extensive database allows our sales staff to offer you the perfect fit for your vehicle.

Taken off the tire rack sight because I'm too lazy to type that out.Tada!

[gr8bryt]

What if I went with something adjustable, or at least a different brand up front? Would that adversely affect the rears w/ the kybs?

Lots of people run different suspensions fore and aft, it comes down to end use just like any other upgrade you do---form vs. function. In your particular case, I don't believe it will matter at this point. I mentioned this before but Ground Control coil-over sleeves+Tokico shocks would be a good combo, or maybe even some Koni's (red or yellow). I really don't know if you're planning to go any lower than you are right now, especially with your plans of increased wheel diameter; but the Ground Controls will give you some height adjustment properties and both Tokico and Koni have adjustable dampning. (Illuminas and Yellow respectively) I would suggest getting a larger anti-roll bar in the front if you're concerned about understeer.

[gr8bryt]

Just to expound on Brandon's post a little bit, here's more info taken from Wikipedia.

The offset, measured in millimeters, can be negative or positive, and is the distance from the mounting surface to the rim's true centerline. A positive offset means the wheel is front of the mounting surface, closer to the center of the fender; a negative offset means the wheel is away from the mounting surface and projecting from the fender. Offset affects the scrub radius of the steering and it is advisable to stay within the limits allowed by the vehicle manufacturer. However, if tires are fitted which are significantly wider than those specified by the manufacturer, a compromise may have to be adopted whereby a wheel with less offset is used to prevent the tire rubbing on the suspension.

Hope this helps, even for those that have an idea already.

[kaChris803]

if you guys wanted to know about offset i could have told ya!! lol. HEY AUSTIN!!! your gonna hate this man. listen carefully....18x7.5 all around, 225/40/18front 265/35/18 rear!!!! damn thats sweet. i'll post pics of it later tonight!

[gr8bryt]

HEY AUSTIN!!! your gonna hate this man. listen carefully....18x7.5 all around, 225/40/18front 265/35/18 rear!!!! damn thats sweet. i'll post pics of it later tonight!

I'm anxious to see how nice that will look.

[maxima278]

gallery is still disabled. ANybody know where else I can put my pics so I can post them?

[Td5turbo]

Just use http://www.photobucket.comAnd then upload the images...once uploaded to photobucket, get the URL address (view picture, right click and go to properties and then Copy/paste the URL) once you have it copied, paste it in your response (on the forum) and then highlight that and put the IMG tags around it (little picture/mountain icon next to the Bold, Underline tabs.

265 on a 18x8.5...with a 225 up front!!!!!!!!!????? I have officially lost all respect for you Chris! haha, just kidding man. But seriously that will make the front sharp up the rear unpredictable as hell. the sidewall will rol about 2" total before it starts to break away and the momentum will make it break away easier. I say run a 18x8.5 all around with a 235...that would be PERFECT!! But like you said, you want to keep the wheels...any idea on make and model? PLEASE dont say Sportmax...PLEASE!! Well, I would go with this setup: 18x8.5 with a 235/45/18 and then a 18x9.5 with a 245/40/18. If you get understeer, switch the fronts and rears (no joke, I know of alot of socal drifter than run opposite/FWD stagger). Buy strut bars and sway bars and see where your at then with those tire sizes. remember a 245 is ALOT of tire for a 210whp car that weighs about 2800lbs.

[kaChris803]

well, for some reason the pics look alot better on my phone but here it goes, remember that the wheel is at an angle so you can see the rubber on the other side!!

[kaChris803]

and heres a pic from the top. all tread baby!!

[kaChris803]

to each there own, right? i've been drifting for 9 years now, and for me there's nothing better (for me) than having wide a** tires in the rear. even with my built n/a ka i could allways break loose on comand and with the wide tires, not to mention 1.8-2.1 degree's of negative camber really help me keep control. oh, and just to mention, you can stretch a tire both ways ya know, there for running a wider tire on a smaller rim completely eliminates flex in the sidewall.

[maxima278]

here's the car with the front wheels (the18x8.5s) placed on one side for photos:

[Td5turbo]

I completely agree with that statement..."to each his own". I am just throwing out suggestions on the limited hands on knowledge and somewhat broad research knowledge about tire sizing. I am not a big drifter...mainly do(did) touges, but with a 225 on my 16x7 it just felt very sloppy to ME. The 225's on my 7.5 and 8" Z33 still feel alittle sloppy due to all-season pirellis that are made for crusing not racing (they were free, need I say more!)...well I think its more trial and error and what you think works for YOU. I say run 235's and 245's and see how you like it.....

[kaChris803]

amen brother. i did try driving with that stretch method of yours: don't like the quality of ride, a little rough, but the breakaways are alot uhh.... sharper?. but when fienting into a drift it tends to break loose on the begining of the fient as apposed the the fro but correcting was fairly easy. and thats on a 200hp kade so maybe on your sr it my be perfect for your touge tracks(street). oh, have you ever driven on johns island towards kiawa or seabrook? thats a fun damn road! lol

[kaChris803]

oh, and the wheels are RH evolutions. hey check this out guys, is there any wonder why the guy put his 2 weeks in today??

[gr8bryt]

I suppose he's gonna be an entrepreneur and open his own tire shop.

[gr8bryt]

What do guys think of this: I can get a full set of s14 hubs only for $120. That's a pretty economical solution for a 5-lug conversion right? I've got a press @ school so it wouldn't be a big deal for me to press out the old 4-luggers and press the new ones in. Then all I would need is rotors and calipers right? I know there are countless threads about 5 lug conversions and from what I've gathered, all you really need is the hubs and appropriate braking hardware like the Ichiba kit.

[gr8bryt]

oooohhh James....Man those wheels look soooo nazty on your car

[Td5turbo]

WRONG!!!!

You cannot simply swap the S14 Se hubs onto your S13. And you dont need a press what-so-ever (the bearings are contained in the hub). The Z32 NON-turbo and S14 SE use the same rear hubs (same part number) and they bolt straight up to the s13 rear uprights. If you can take it off, you can put them on!. The fronts are WAY different story:

The fronts need the S14 SE upright, along with a new lower ball joint (the s13 and s14 are similar and the s13 may seem to work on the s14 upright but it is a different tapper and wont seat properly and could lead to catastrophic( big word hehe) failure...PDM sells s14 ball joints). Some say you can use the S14 LCA, but it is longer so I dont konw if it will change suspension geometry for the worse....it will lower your roll center but if you dont have other adjustable links that does nothing for you. You also have to bore out your strut mounting holes. The S14 uses larger bolts to mount the upright to the coilover/stut. I remember a company selling spacers so you wouldnt have to do this...but forgot who it was.

Then of course you need the S14 SE brakes or Q45 or Z32 5-lug brakes and conversion lines where nessesary (Z32 only i think).

[gr8bryt]

oh, ok that clears things up a lot! I was pretty sure about the rears, but the whole thing in the front was a little cloudy. Either way, @ $30 each for the rears, that's still a decent deal. I'll be calling back to see if I can source the rest of the stuff. I will retain my oem lca, and get it bored to accomodate the ball joint. Whatever the case, I'm sure I'll come off better for my 5 lug swap than buying a kit or whatever.

[Td5turbo]

Yea, $30 a piece for rears is a good deal. I paid $130 shipped from a parted out S14 about 6 months ago. I went with Ichiba front conversion hubs just because it was simpler and only cost $300. I figured it was worth the bolt on application instead of sourcing parts, and then hacing to modify them...because I think its $70 per ball joint...and then you still need hubs and uprights and bore out your coilovers/struts....

[gr8bryt]

Well, I'm not really in a big rush to complete this project, but I'm anxious anyway. I'll take my chances with used parts since I'm basically scraping together what I can when I can. The s14 upright will bolt to the s13 chassis right??

[Td5turbo]

No, thats why you need S14 ball joints and you need to either get spacers or redrill your stock strut/coilover mounting holes...do you get that? sorry if its vauge!

[gr8bryt]

10-4, that's the plan then. Preciate the heads up and clarification....hmmm I wonder if Brandon still has those wheels.

[Redemption1978]

Yup I still have them. I found some Rota's I like. I wanted the works but these Rota knockoffs I think look a little better because the spokes are squared off as opposed to Works rounded spokes. The offset and widths are the same and of course Rota's are a few hundred dollars cheaper.

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Edited for Clarification.
Modified by Redemption1978 at 1:41 PM 10/12/2006

[gr8bryt]

Those look sooooo hawt Brandon, I say go for it!

[kouki munster]

Thoes do look pretty sweet.

[maxima278]

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Bryton, check those out. Might save you some trouble and maybe even a little money in the end. Plus they are BRAND NEW parts There may be more posts for those in the advertiser section if you look.

[kaChris803]

yup, if rims can be sexy, then call them SMOKEN!!! those would be great on your car. what color is you car? if you want, give the the name of the wheel, size and offset and i'll see if i can get you a deal!!!

sup guys! hope everyone is doing good here tonight! so i dismounted those tires today and replaced them with 225/40/18 advan neova. also just found out that my $200 timing kit i bought 9 months ago is for a ka24e, i have a ka24de!! so i ended up dropping $80 for a new chain and guides. dude working on my car says that everything else is great condition(better be after that damn rebuild!). i'm "picking" up my car tomorrow, supposedly , can't wait to drive it . hopefully i'll have my car by lunch time and i can put my coilovers on at work, if not i should have them on either sat. or monday night. then throw my 18's on it, sand and prime the front bumper, hood, fenders, roof, and deck lid and call it quits until i find someone who has an area i can use to paint it (if any of you guys have a space i can paint, and an air compressor and hose please let me know!!!). well yous guys, i'm off to eat some pizza but i will be back on here periodically tonight to check up and chat it up!! later ya'llz!!!!

[maxima278]

yup, if rims can be sexy, then call them SMOKEN!!! those would be great on your car. what color is you car? if you want, give the the name of the wheel, size and offset and i'll see if i can get you a deal!!!

I guess you're talking to me? Well, those are actually wheels I'm buying from Brandon. I will need to put tires on them though, so if you can get me a killer deal on some 245 35 18's (???) then hook me up. My car is sort of a mutt color I guess. Was supposed to be 350z silverstone/Infiniti Diamond graphite (wv2 nissan paint code) But I went with a cheaper base and the matching didn't come out well. So it's a lot darker. My Infiniti is diamond graphite and they look like 2 totally different colors.

edit: yeah I just realized you were probably talking to Brandon... the wheels I'm getting from him are pictured on the previous page if you want to check them out.

...Anyway, his wheels will probably need to be 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 with a 35 mm offset. 90% sure but next time he's online he can clarify that. His car is red.
Modified by maxima278 at 9:41 PM 10/12/2006

[Td5turbo]

Well I have a spray booth....and about a 10,000 sq. ft shop. You can spray the car, but unfortunatly you cannot leave it there. You could come down on like a friday at about 6pm or later and spray it and leave it to dry or whatever until sunday....but it has to be out of the shop by sunday night.