Here's some information I've compiled:
Hope this helps other guys out.I couldn't find any junkyard in FL that had them.So I had to pick them up brand new.
Supposedly FL junkyards can't have cars newer than 10 years old. GHEY!!!If you know anything otherwise. LMK
LS2-Coil
History:
Starting in 1997, General Motors used a new (for them) coil-near-plug ignition system for the then new Corvette LS1 engine. The system features eight coils (one per cylinder) mounted on the valve cover, with short spark plug wires to connect the coils to the spark plugs. The General Motors LS1 coils are not just conventional ignition coils. Instead they are complete single-cylinder ignition systems. They contain all the electronics for dwell limiting, current limiting, etc. These coils are controlled directly by a low voltage, low current signal from the sequencer. There is no intervening ignition module (like an EDIS or GM DIS). Because the LS1 coils have the igniters built in, they make for an easy installation and generate less electromagnetic noise in the other wiring under the hood.
About these LS2/Truck coils:
The LS2 coil-near-plug coils are similar in form and function to the LS1 coils described above. The LS2/truck coil has a visible external aluminum heat sink near the connector.
These LS2 coils are incredible. Even compared to the LS1 coil, these are just crushers! On the LS1 coil there is around 40 milliamps of peak secondary current with 5 milliseconds of dwell time. On the LS2/truck coil (AC Delco D585), there is 120 milliamps!
How to use:
The LS2 coil has 4 connections (as well as the high tension terminal for the spark plug wire, of course): A = Coil Primary Ground B = Ignition low noise ground from ECU (ground) C = Ignition digital signal from ECU (+5V) D = +12V Supply to Coil Primary
The two capacitors are optional but recommended. The 1.0 µF capacitor on the +12V is helpful, it is similar to the one used on EDIS. What it does is provide brief energy storage for the discharge. The other capacitor will help eliminate back-fed noise to the MegaSquirt controller. Use a 100 pF to 0.001 µF cap on the TTL trigger input wire to ground. What this does is shunt extremely fast noise spikes to ground and not let them feed back to the MegaSquirt processor. The added capacitanceis minimal - with the series resistance of 1,000 ohms (in the controller) and a 100 pF capacitor the RC 3dB time constant is 2πR × C = 0.6 microseconds.
The LS2 built in coil igniters (the amplifier that drives the coil's primary current based on the sequencer signal) will follow the sequencer signal pulse width. When the signal from the sequencer is high (3 to 5+ Volts - with very little current from the controller, a few dozen milliAmps), the coil current will be building. When the signal from the sequencer is pulled low (shut off), the coil will spark. The duration of the signal from the megasquirt / sequencer determines the dwell (though the coil igniter limits this to no more than ~8 milliseconds).
The dwell should be set at 5 milliseconds input pulse trigger - going longer does not generate any more spark current.
To get 5.0 milliseconds of running dwell, the nominal dwell parameters shouldbe set to:
Maximum Dwell5.5 milliseconds
Maximum Spark Duration2.0 milliseconds
Acceleration Compensation0.5 milliseconds
Battery Voltage Compensation
Setting Net Voltage Dwell Compensation
-4.0 8.0 Volts 2.4 milliseconds
-2.0 10.0 Volts 0.9 milliseconds
0.0 12.0 Volts 0.0 milliseconds
2.0 14.0 Volts -0.5 milliseconds
4.0 16.0 Volts -0.9 milliseconds
This will give 5.5 - 0.5 = 5.0 milliseconds at 14.0 volts while running with the alternator charging normally.
Here is a video of the coil in action - with the LS1 on the test stand you canhear the sparking, not loud but certainly audible. With the LS2/truck coil it sounds like someone is banging on the table! The big resistor you see in the video is part of a voltage divider setup. Its value is 100 megaohm (R1), in series with a 100 Kohm (R2), this pair is across the spark plug. The voltageacross the 100 Kohm resistor is what is viewed on the scope.
Comparing the stock dwell tables between the two vehicles, the truck runs slightly more dwell in the normally used 12-14v cells, but they're reasonably close, and radically modifying dwell time is not the answer.
2001 C5 LS1 dwell table:Click on the link above to see this link
2004 Silverado 5.3 dwell table:Click on the link above to see this link
(I did check a 6.0 LQ9 tune as well, it's dwell table is identical as this one).
Again, for a stock(ish) car, I too would skeptical of any substantial gains, unless the coils just compensated for another ignition weakness, like junk plugs/wires.. But on a tougher-to-fire FI or high compression setup, the truck coils could prove to be of benefit.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/....html This is info from
http://www.megasquirt.info that i found not long ago,,
:the LS2 coil (GM# 12573190, AC Delco D514-A) from the 2005-2006 Corvette (& GTO and Avalanche), and the GM coil used on 2002-2005 Cadillac Escalade, 2000-2006 Yukon, 1999-2006 Chevy Silverado, 2001-2005 Trail Blazer, and some Hummers, etc.. The model is GM# 10457730 or AC Delco D585 (also Wells C1251, Standard UF262, GM/Daewoo 190005218). The LS2/truck coil has a visible external aluminum heat sink near the connector. These LS2 coils are incredible. Even compared to the LS1 coil, these are just crushers! On the LS1 coil there is around 40 milliamps of peak secondary current with 5 milliseconds of dwell time. On the LS2/truck coil (AC Delco D585), there is 120 milliamps!
We will call the second coil type the LS2/truck coil. These two types of coil have the same connector and pin-out, but the physical mounting pattern is different. The coil connector (GM# 12580353) can be found as:
BUICK(1)2004-2004
RAINER(1)2004-2004
2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin P
CADILLAC(9)2002-2006
ESCALADE(9)2002-2006
2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2005 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2004 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2003 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2002 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
CHEVROLET(147)1999-2007
AVALANCHE(5)2002-2006
2006 V8-325ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
SILVERADO 1500(29)1999-2007
2007 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2007 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2007 V8-5328cc 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2007 V8-325ci 5.3L ELECTRIC/F Vin T 2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2006 V8-325ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin B 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L ELECTRIC/F Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2004 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2001 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2001 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 1999 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 1999 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
SILVERADO 1500 HD(6)2001-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SILVERADO 2500(10)1999-2004
2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L BIFUEL/FI Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 1999 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 1999 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SILVERADO 2500 HD(12)2001-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L BIFUEL/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SILVERADO 3500(10)2001-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SSR(2)2003-2004
2004 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I 2003 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin P
SUBURBAN 1500(12)2000-2006
2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-325ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2001 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
SUBURBAN 2500(7)2000-2006
2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2000 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
TAHOE(19)2000-2006
2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-325ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2006 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2003 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2001 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2001 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
TRAILBLAZER EXT(2)2003-2004
2004 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin P 2003 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin P
VAN G1500 1/2TON EXPRESS(6)2003-2007
2007 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2007 V8-5328cc 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2006 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
VAN G2500 3/4TON EXPRESS(16)2003-2007
2007 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U
VAN G3500 1 TON EXPRESS(11)2003-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2007 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U
GMC(150)1999-2007
DENALI(3)2001-2003
2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U (DENALI) 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U (DENALI) 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U (DENALI)
ENVOY XL(2)2003-2004
2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin P 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin P
SIERRA 1500(30)1999-2007
2007 V8-325ci 5.3L ELECTRIC/F Vin T 2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2007 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2007 V8-325ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2007 V8-5328cc 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin N 2006 V8-325ci 5.3L ELECTRIC/F Vin T 2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2006 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L ELECTRIC/F Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin B 2004 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2003 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2001 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2001 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 1999 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 1999 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
SIERRA 1500 HD(6)2001-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SIERRA 2500(10)1999-2004
2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L BIFUEL/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 1999 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 1999 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SIERRA 2500 HD(12)2001-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L BIFUEL/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SIERRA 3500(10)2001-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SIERRA C3(1)2001-2001
2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
SIERRA DENALI(1)2004-2004
2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
VAN G1500 1/2 TON SAVANA(6)2003-2007
2007 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2007 V8-5328cc 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2006 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
VAN G2500 3/4 TON SAVANA(16)2003-2007
2007 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U
VAN G3500 1 TON SAVANA(12)2003-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2007 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U 2004 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L CNG/FI Vin U
YUKON(20)2000-2006
2006 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2006 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2006 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2004 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U (DENALI) 2003 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2001 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2001 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-294ci 4.8L F/I Vin V 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
YUKON DENALI(2)2005-2006
2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
YUKON DENALI XL(2)2005-2006
2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
YUKON XL 1500(11)2000-2006
2006 V8-325ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2005 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2004 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2002 V8-323ci 5.3L FLEX/FI Vin Z 2001 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T 2000 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin T
YUKON XL 2500(6)2000-2005
2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2002 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2001 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2000 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
HUMMER(5)2003-2007
H2(5)2003-2007
2007 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2006 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2005 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2004 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U 2003 V8-364ci 6.0L F/I Vin U
ISUZU(2)2003-2004
ASCENDER(2)2003-2004
2004 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin P 2003 V8-323ci 5.3L F/I Vin P